List Mgmt. Trade & Free Agency Part 9

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[DM#4]

We're in a unique position because of the flexibility to trade draft picks many years into the future. One of the smartest strategies when they hit rock bottom is OKC in the NBA. They continually traded for future first-round picks and second round picks, even at the expense of current players/picks. Teams often undervalue future picks in favour of short-term gains. Provides long-term leverage and optionality when rebuilding. Similar to us, they had a heap of salary cap space because they were poor, rebuilding, and all their young drafted talent were still on small contracts. As a result they were the beneficiary to a lot of salary dumps similar to Jack Bowes going to the Cats with a pick attached.

They are a completely different case study as they can trade so many years in advance, and a single player in the NBA can completely transform a franchise. But it really would be wise, I think, to flip some of those mid to late first rounders (if we get them) into future first round picks. This is such an even draft I think teams would be willing to overpay.

Having a strong draft hand/hoarding all the picks for the next few years should be an aim, despite being probably a poor performing team it gives us a lot of power.

The strategy we utilised last year of trading back in the current draft but also gaining future picks was brilliant. Say we get a pick between 10-20 this year - a club might offer a 2025 1st and a 2024 2nd which we can then trade the 2024 2nd back and gain even more future picks. Do it all again in 2025 for the 2026 draft. We are definitely in a unique position to take advantage of the drafts over the next few years.

 

[Dr Tigris]

Graham signs on​

Jack Graham will remain a Richmond player after signing a a new four year deal

Graham signs on

Jack Graham will remain a Richmond player after signing a a new three-year contract.

www.richmondfc.com.au

I love how much this exposes the crap we get told by the 'experts'. 3 years and signs with the Tigers. Not like what we got told 4 years and WC.

 

[jthanos]

Then if we really want to control our own destiny.
Offer pick 6 & 21 to Norf for pick 2.

1/2/3/9/14
Wouldn't that be some hiest.lol

you mean;
Rich # 2 - North #6 & #21 ( think Nth would want our pick 9/10 which ever doesnt go to W/C or pick in the teens
Rich # 3 - WC Baker & #9 or #10

We lose too much I think

 

[TJTIGER]

The West Coke board is full of nongs.

They think they can get Baker to go to them through the PSD.

The PSD!!!!! Just how f***ing stupid would you have to be to think that Baker - a triple premiership Tiger, would f**k his club and do the dirty and go to the PSD.

That's without even realising we have pick 1 in the PSD you morons.

That my friends is reserved for a special kind of stupid.
If that's their thought pattern, then I'm astounded they know how to f***ing type.

Yeah fireman Kano said it, and planted the dumb seed, but that bloke has dead set shit for brains. All he has is bravado, nothing else. The guy is a simpleton and he's making a career out of it.
I crapped more brain cells this morning than that that inbred has carried around all his life.

100% accurate rant over

Definitely 10/10 for 100% commitment to rant. Best I’ve seen in a while.

 

[OFFtheBALL]

I've been offline for a few days and now we're optimistic and all smiles? Wtaf happened? Who spiked the forum with mdma?

I'm here for it though

the comedown is going to be horrific.

 

[Frustrated Tiger]

I love how much this exposes the crap we get told by the 'experts'. 3 years and signs with the Tigers. Not like what we got told 4 years and WC.

Did you see the date of the article??

 

[wegetpumped]

Pretty sure we got a full board going, and we are clearing the deadwood from the coaches ranks, and the players who don't wanna be there (it's all got a bit too hard or maybe they want Dimma hugs) are getting moved on for value. We're also revamping the fitness and conditioning side. And we're gonna have an amazing draft hand. Maybe we following different clubs?

FFS mate we nor against the club we just voicing opinions. If the world is perfect we would be all fd

 

[tigs2010]

I love how much this exposes the crap we get told by the 'experts'. 3 years and signs with the Tigers. Not like what we got told 4 years and WC.

Oh dear

 

[bigolebill]

Has anyone read that Liam Banker article in the Age, and can provide the gist here?

 

[Bird Man]

If the roles were reversed would you trade pick 1 for pick 8 and Barras? this is why the point system is dumb and should only be used for bidding on NGA and father son... not for determining value of the pick as each draft is different.

 

[LTT]

Then if we really want to control our own destiny.
Offer pick 6 & 21 to Norf for pick 2.

1/2/3/9/14
Wouldn't that be some hiest.lol

North already have their skilled outside mids and will probably pick and an inside mid bull like Josh Smillie or a KPB with pick 2. We have our inside bulls and need skilled outside players. We are after different player types so no real need to chase North's pick.

 

[captain cotch 9]

Has anyone read that Liam Banker article in the Age, and can provide the gist here?

 

[Coach_Required]

Didn't take Cornes long to have a sook about Richmond.

 

[Chunky09]

I’m already 4 years ahead in my mind.
FOS, jagga and Langford are owing midfields, and we’re right back to we’re we wanna be…aka whack off central

 

[captain cotch 9]

Didn't take Cornes long to have a sook about Richmond.

Maybe he should focus on his own backyard and try to show up to work on time

 

[Barunga Bullet]

Yeah GWS reckons the contract demands of a swathe of draftees, when they approached the maturity of their first deal, was a big issue. Think we are a bit different as our 2024 crop less likely to wave the homesick flag.
It’d be preferable to spread it but if we are confident the dude there at pick, say, 17 is better than the ones expected to be available at someone’s predicted 2025 first selection, hit the pick now.
Yes a fair bit of guesswork, but educated.

Might be the wrong call. Someone’s 2025 first might be way earlier than we expect. But we are 12 hours after Max Holmes (who was far from a slam dunk draftee it must be said - he had risks) lit up a QF so there’s that

i think if we can get 5 high picks, you take them and trade the rest into next year

 

[Lord of the Wings]

Didn't take Cornes long to have a sook about Richmond.

Karen should know about softness. He hasn't been hard for years

 

[Dunger]

Didn't take Cornes long to have a sook about Richmond.

There's a village somewhere that's deprived of its idiot

 

[tigerfan1961]

I do like this idea, 2 years makes sense, investing in 1 draft with so many picks is high risk. If it means we can secure better picks over the 2 years then that would be ideal.

Not if next years draft falls away early though. Take good players while you can imo

 

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Didn't take Cornes long to have a sook about Richmond.

To be fair he goes on to mention in the article a number of teams are lacking the ability to make hard decisions and he used the Baker trade as an example of how a club like WCE instead of playing hard ball themselves are playing nice. He also points out Adelaide shouldn't have caved in to Walker and Essendon shouldn't have extended contracts they didn't need to extend.

 

[Dr Tigris]

Did you see the date of the article??

I got got.

Well played

 

[docko911]

Not if next years draft falls away early though. Take good players while you can imo

Completely agree.

We realistically should be using all the picks we can get inside the top 30 based on the reported depth of this draft.

 

[4tune8]

There's a village somewhere that's deprived of its idiot

Ya sort of got it right, but Cornhole would be the village idiot in a village of idiots.

 

[Rich01]

To be fair he goes on to mention in the article a number of teams are lacking the ability to make hard decisions and he used the Baker trade as an example of how a club like WCE instead of playing hard ball themselves are playing nice. He also points out Adelaide shouldn't have caved in to Walker and Essendon shouldn't have extended contracts they didn't need to extend.

Did he mention how many years Port gave to Ratagulea? Was it five?

 

[Coach_Required]

Did he mention how many years Port gave to Ratagulea? Was it five?

He was a giant witch's hat last night, Cameron was rubbing his hands together and decided to kick them from all over the park.