List Mgmt. Trade & Free Agency talk Pt 4

[SthMelb Tigers]

Fair?
Probably not

But if we rate Horne and absolutely want him, get it done sometimes you need to pay overs to get what we want

North will pick Horne at 1.

 

[Meteoric Rise]

You need the shotgun to fight off the hordes, because 'picking crabs up' is one of the only ways you can still get prescribed Ivermectin (the variety meant for humans at least).

Ah that makes sense. Was thinking shooting those type of crabs would be massive overkill.

 

[petro12]

So did Jarrod Waite

Sav Rocca got another 2 years after kicking 7-8 against us. Ahh the glory days

 

[Roksman]

So most trades will be held off until the final day as per AFL directive for this doco?

So transparent.

 

[JAKLAUGHING]

Tigers will be the main news again with CCJ...

 

[Tigers Time]

Pick 7 and our future first for GWS pick 2 and a future third round.
Who says no?
Is it fair?

I’m not sure I’m all that keen tbh but I’ll trust the club to know what it’s doing. Jeez I hope it’s worth it.

 

[Mr Magic]

You can trade a future first and third pick. You are not allowed to trade a first and second pick for the same year.

Just on this should we get the Bulldogs future first if it lets us trade our future first and other futures?

Not sure how the rules work

 

[petro12]

Pick 7 and our future first for GWS pick 2 and a future third round.
Who says no?
Is it fair?

this draft is so un known. Do we think Callaghan is going to be that good? He absolutely could be but I’m not wanting to lose next years first.

we need picks for a KPF/KPD in free agency. That’s what the good teams are doing these days. FA for your KPD and stock up your mids/smalls in draft with a few KPP developments.
I would love us to throw our hat in the ring for Ben King next year

 

[tigs2010]

KM doesn’t even watch footy from what I heard, goes off stats snd others work

Surely not

 

[Mr Magic]

Pick 7 and our future first for GWS pick 2 and a future third round.
Who says no?
Is it fair?

Is that whats in the Herald Sun?

 

[Barunga Bullet]

I have not even heard a sentence this year. I refuse to submit to that type of abuse.

I can get updates elsewhere like BF

Now you know how we feel we when you post

 

[peterbuch74]

Anyone got access to this?

Tigers’ resurgence: Top-5 pick could be inbound

Anyone hoping Richmond were officially off the cliff, think again. The Tigers are poised to add a top-5 pick to the return of Dusty and addition of Tarrant. Here’s how.

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Anyone hoping Richmond were officially off the cliff, think again. The Tigers are poised to add a top-5 pick to the return of Dusty and addition of Tarrant. Here’s how.
Marc McGowan, Jay Clark, Glenn McFarlane and Jon Ralph
October 5, 2021 - 9:11AM - News Corp Australia Sports Newsroom

Richmond assistant Adam Kingsley wants to chase another premiership with the Tigers next year as they look to take their strongest hand in a decade to this year’s draft.
Kingsley came second to Michael Voss in the race for Carlton’s senior coaching job and declined an opportunity to join the Blues’ assistant coaching ranks.

Instead, he is locked in for another year at Richmond alongside former Carlton senior coach David Teague as the Tigers try to relaunch at the top-four again next season.

Richmond is set to have as many as six top-40 picks and will try to bundle some of those selections together to surge higher up the draft order.

Damien Hardwick’s men have picks 7, 15 (from Geelong), 26, 28 (from St Kilda), 38 (Mabior Chol compensation) and could land 40 from North Melbourne in the deal for ruck-forward Callum Coleman-Jones. They also have 42 and 47.


It puts the Tigers in their strongest draft position since 2009 when they picked up superstar Dustin Martin at pick 3 as well as Ben Griffifths (19) and premiership defender David Astbury (35).

The swathe of draft choices gives the Tiger the capacity to go hunting a third first-round pick or move up the order from 7 and 15 in a key list management period for the club which won premierships in 2017 and 2019-20.

Clubs are aware the Bulldogs’ No. 17 and Greater Western Sydney’s pick two are both up for grabs after preliminary talks on the opening day of the trade period on Monday.

The Giants are open to shuffling down the order from pick two as they eye a key position prospect in this year’s draft such as brilliant ruckman Mac Andrew.


At pick two Richmond would have guaranteed access to one of the two best young midfielders in the country in slick playmaker Finn Callaghan and hard nut Ben Hobbs.

The Tigers have been linked to a play on Hobbs who is widely considered a superstar onballer and future captain in the making.


The Horsham product, who averaged 30 possessions a game in the NAB league this year, would be a long-term replacement for ex-skipper Trent Cotchin.

But the Tigers, who have pick seven, will have to move up the order and secure a top-five pick to land him, according to recruiting sources.

The Bulldogs are also open to shuffling some of their picks and drop down the order from 17 in a bid to bolster their total draft points and snaffle father-son gem Sam Darcy.

Darcy is expected to go in the top-three, meaning the Dogs will land the most outstanding tall talent in back-to-back drafts after landing Jamarra Ugle-Hagan at No. 1 last year.


Richmond will also be boosted by the return of Martin next year as he ramps up his training after a serious kidney injury which stripped 10kg from his frame.

The Tigers are excited about the make-up of their coaching department next year with Kingsley staying and Teague expected to take over offence or ball movement.

It comes as Sydney Stack is also set to remain at Tigerland on an incentivised contract, at the end of a tumultuous year that started with him behind bars.

Stack’s agent, Paul Peos, of Inside 50 Player Management, confirmed to the Herald Sun that the 21-year-old had all-but agreed to terms on a one-year deal.


The Cats and Blues are still on the hunt for assistant coaches to support Voss at Ikon Park and Geelong’s Chris Scott in 2022.

Richmond senior advisor Neil Balme said Hardwick was thrilled with the coaching set up for 2022 with former hard nut defender Steve Morris taking over the VFL team.

“Adam Kingsley is contracted (at Richmond) and we are planning (for 2022) as normal on that front,” Balme said.

“If something really significant comes up (he will deal with it) but we are expecting him to be here and they are working through all that (assistant coaching roles) now.

“Damien was really keen to have David (Teague) and they know each other well.”

 

[Mr Magic]

Now you know how we feel we when you post

Yeah but you can't hear me, silence is bliss.

Besides, I am anonymous and a neville nobody who just likes to post about RFC topics,

Listening to trade radio, which I haven't except in the past you know they are paid to do padding.

The real news is when it gets released and then it gets into other channels like afl.com.au and BF anyway.

The only interesting stuff for me is some trade rumours that have a bit of substance.

Besides in BF we can throw around hypotheticals and those in the know, with support can always entertain themselves with info to help them get creative like that salary dump idea with MacPerson and North

Anything that stimulates RFC and our team getting better I am up for

 

[tugga]

If anyone wants to comment on the credibility of a fellow poster, at least have the decency to tag them in it so they can respond in kind.
Or perhaps PM them with your thoughts.

 

[Tigers Time]

Anyone hoping Richmond were officially off the cliff, think again. The Tigers are poised to add a top-5 pick to the return of Dusty and addition of Tarrant. Here’s how.
Marc McGowan, Jay Clark, Glenn McFarlane and Jon Ralph
October 5, 2021 - 9:11AM - News Corp Australia Sports Newsroom

Thanks heaps legend

 

[Barunga Bullet]

Yeah but you can't hear me, silence is bliss.

Besides, I am anonymous and a neville nobody who just likes to post about RFC topics,

Listening to trade radio, which I haven't except in the past you know they are paid to do padding.

The real news is when it gets released and then it gets into other channels like afl.com.au and BF anyway.

The only interesting stuff for me is some trade rumours that have a bit of substance.

Besides in BF we can throw around hypotheticals and those in the know, with support can always entertain themselves with info to help them get creative like that salary dump idea with MacPerson and North

It's rather funny that he is refusing to go to North

 

[Finn9]

If anyone wants to comment on the credibility of a fellow poster, at least have the decency to tag them in it so they can respond in kind.
Or perhaps PM them with your thoughts.

Hahaha holy hell, I was curious as to why he still has any credibility. But he has the moderators coming to his defence every time someone criticises him. I would have tagged him but I wasn't aware know how to tag. I never really post but I've been a long time reader and have seen his continued speculation that is based on probability (Narkle mates with half the side, Cerra richmond supporter as a kid) turn out to be nothing. I made a fair and respectful post about it in better words than this Tiger71 but you won't be able to read it cos your moderator mates deleted it.

 

[Roksman]

Hahaha holy hell, I was curious as to why he still has any credibility. But he has the moderators coming to his defence every time someone criticises him. I would have tagged him but I wasn't aware know how to tag. I never really post but I've been a long time reader and have seen his continued speculation that is based on probability (Narkle mates with half the side, Cerra richmond supporter as a kid) turn out to be nothing. I made a fair and respectful post about it in better words than this Tiger71 but you won't be able to read it cos your moderator mates deleted it.

Well, you don't add anything by playing the man so maybe keep it that way.

The world is already too negative, don't need anymore of it.

 

[Coach_Required]

I'm on my own here no doubt, but I like that North are doing.

They are trying to rebuild their list and to do that they need all the talent that they can get. They've identified CCJ as a player who fill a big need for them, so why wouldn't they do all they can to get him as cheap as they can. I tell you what if the shoe was on the other foot, I'd be wanting to see us get a good player for as cheaply as we could especially when we're not blessed with a big draft haul to fall back on.

If North were to land for example Horne-Smith CCJ & Bazzo from having picks 1 & 20 and PSD 1, they've done well for themselves and they have nobody to answer to but themselves and their fans. For all the talk about clubs holding grudges at the trade table it just doesn't work like that. Every year opposition club fans, not necessarily the clubs, whinge about how difficult Dodoro is to deal with and yet every year opposition clubs line up to do business with him, because they know that he is only doing what is best for Essendon, the same as Hartley and Livingstone will do what is best for Richmond.

So if CCJ ends up walking to the PSD then so be it, but until 7.30pm next Wednesday try everything we can to get a deal done that sees both teams walk away thinking they've won, because we've still got a great draft hand.

Even without trading up for the Dogs pick 17 and can walk away with a very nice haul that will fast track the refresh of our list. As it is 38 42 & 47 equate to pick 14 on the points scale, throw in 28 and it's equal to pick 6, throw in 26 and it's equal to pick 2. I'm not suggesting we throw the kitchen sink at getting pick 2 or 6, I'm just point out that we've got plenty of options open to us.

I agree, Richmond should just write CCJ off as a loss IMO, we aren't winning this battle and it will just waste our time. Ask for their pick 40 and Tarrant and if they say no then just move on. I'd be also walking Tarrant to the PSD in that case as I cant see any team below us using their pick on him.

 

[Tigers Time]

Trading 2 first rounders always makes me ansty

 

[Stevi_Tigers]

So according to twitter norf offered Richmond a future 3rd for Ccj and our 4th

These campaigners taking the piss

 

[Tigers Time]

So according to twitter norf offered Richmond a future 3rd for Ccj and our 4th

These campaigners taking the piss

Was in the AGE

 

[Stevi_Tigers]

Was in the AGE

Shit club if they folded nothing of value would be lost

 

[Mr Magic]

Well, you don't add anything by playing the man so maybe keep it that way.

The world is already too negative, don't need anymore of it.

I think Tiger71 has a nice balance of info and entertainment that's accommodating and is productive.

I saw the latest tigercast and did not think it was twilight zone stuff in terms of disconnection in a down time period in terms of onfield stuff of the club.

I think the cast has a feel for their audience

 

[Sir_Loin]

So according to twitter norf offered Richmond a future 3rd for Ccj and our 4th

These campaigners taking the piss

they wanted a fourth back. **** me. Luff clearly doesn’t want a long term career