Our Key Fwd situation concerns me as i fear they will go for Himmelberg to save jobs
Key Fwds for Flags last decade
2022 - Hawkins & Cameron
2021 - Fritsch, Ben Brown
, Tom McDonald
, Luke Jackson
, Max Gawn
2020 - Riewoldt, Lynch & Dusty
2019 - Riewoldt, Lynch & Dusty
2018 - Darling & Kennedy
2017 - Jack & the Chaos Kings
2016 - Boyd, Stringer
2013-15 - Gunston, Roughead, Breust, Cyril (Franklin in 13)
You can have many variants and be successful, but what you almost always need a certain quality of name in your Big 2. There are a few interesting moments for sure looking at that list - the Dogs & Tigers in 2017 both won flags with forwardlines that, on paper, are clearly sub-par to the rest of that decade. It would be interesting to pinpoint what exactly changed in footy after the Hawks dynasty that led to GF's being won with very inexperienced forwardlines that functioned in a very untraditional format. Richmond effectively "righted" that ship when they got Lynch & since then marking forwards have been king again. By 2021 the amount of elite marking forward options Melbourne had to win a flag was about as "yang" to Richmonds 2017 "ying".
Himmelberg just doesn;t look like a name i'd expect to be in that list above.
Key Fwds for Flags last decade
2022 - Hawkins & Cameron
2021 - Fritsch, Ben Brown
PLAYERCARDSTART
50
Ben Brown
- Age
- 32
- Ht
- 200cm
- Wt
- 100kg
- Pos.
- Fwd
Career
Season
Last 5
- D
- 10.7
- 3star
- K
- 7.7
- 3star
- HB
- 3.0
- 3star
- M
- 4.8
- 5star
- T
- 1.2
- 3star
- G
- 2.2
- 5star
- D
- 7.9
- 2star
- K
- 6.3
- 3star
- HB
- 1.6
- 1star
- M
- 3.7
- 4star
- T
- 0.9
- 2star
- G
- 1.0
- 4star
- D
- 8.0
- 2star
- K
- 4.6
- 2star
- HB
- 3.4
- 3star
- M
- 4.4
- 4star
- T
- 1.4
- 4star
- G
- 1.2
- 4star
PLAYERCARDEND
PLAYERCARDSTART
25
Tom Mcdonald
- Age
- 32
- Ht
- 195cm
- Wt
- 101kg
- Pos.
- D/F
Career
Season
Last 5
- D
- 16.4
- 4star
- K
- 9.7
- 4star
- HB
- 6.7
- 4star
- M
- 5.6
- 5star
- T
- 1.9
- 4star
- MG
- 261.8
- 4star
- D
- 8.0
- 2star
- K
- 5.0
- 2star
- HB
- 3.0
- 2star
- M
- 3.4
- 3star
- T
- 0.6
- 1star
- MG
- 135.6
- 2star
- D
- 13.8
- 4star
- K
- 6.8
- 3star
- HB
- 7.0
- 5star
- M
- 4.4
- 4star
- T
- 1.4
- 4star
PLAYERCARDEND
PLAYERCARDSTART
9
Luke Jackson
- Age
- 23
- Ht
- 199cm
- Wt
- 102kg
- Pos.
- F/R
Career
Season
Last 5
- D
- 8.3
- 2star
- K
- 3.3
- 1star
- HB
- 5.0
- 4star
- M
- 1.5
- 2star
- T
- 1.0
- 3star
- G
- 0.3
- 3star
- D
- 8.3
- 2star
- K
- 3.3
- 1star
- HB
- 5.0
- 3star
- M
- 1.5
- 2star
- T
- 1.0
- 2star
- G
- 0.3
- 3star
- D
- 8.3
- 3star
- K
- 3.3
- 2star
- HB
- 5.0
- 4star
- M
- 1.5
- 2star
- T
- 1.0
- 3star
- G
- 0.3
- 3star
PLAYERCARDEND
PLAYERCARDSTART
11
Max Gawn
- Age
- 33
- Ht
- 209cm
- Wt
- 110kg
- Pos.
- Ruck
Career
Season
Last 5
- D
- 14.1
- 4star
- K
- 7.4
- 3star
- HB
- 6.7
- 4star
- CL
- 2.8
- 4star
- HO
- 35.3
- 5star
- D
- 18.5
- 4star
- K
- 11.5
- 4star
- HB
- 7.0
- 4star
- CL
- 3.5
- 4star
- HO
- 29.2
- 5star
- D
- 8.4
- 3star
- K
- 3.6
- 2star
- HB
- 4.8
- 4star
- CL
- 1.0
- 3star
- HO
- 15.6
- 5star
PLAYERCARDEND
2020 - Riewoldt, Lynch & Dusty
2019 - Riewoldt, Lynch & Dusty
2018 - Darling & Kennedy
2017 - Jack & the Chaos Kings
2016 - Boyd, Stringer
2013-15 - Gunston, Roughead, Breust, Cyril (Franklin in 13)
You can have many variants and be successful, but what you almost always need a certain quality of name in your Big 2. There are a few interesting moments for sure looking at that list - the Dogs & Tigers in 2017 both won flags with forwardlines that, on paper, are clearly sub-par to the rest of that decade. It would be interesting to pinpoint what exactly changed in footy after the Hawks dynasty that led to GF's being won with very inexperienced forwardlines that functioned in a very untraditional format. Richmond effectively "righted" that ship when they got Lynch & since then marking forwards have been king again. By 2021 the amount of elite marking forward options Melbourne had to win a flag was about as "yang" to Richmonds 2017 "ying".
Himmelberg just doesn;t look like a name i'd expect to be in that list above.