List Mgmt. Trade Targets / Rumours Part 2

[Ian Jackson]

Shopping Dougal was so ******* dumb.

Dougal shopped himself for more dollars on a St Kilda offer.

 

[GoTheMightyCrows]

It's amazing how few whispers are coming out as to who we may be chasing or maybe we'll be very doing very little this trade period.

 

[DaTBird187]

Shopping Dougal was so ******* dumb.

How hard is it to believe we didn't?

 

[Ford Fairlane]

It's Ricky Nixon so treat as you see fit

 

[Malibu#27]

How hard is it to believe we didn't?

The evidence is starting to mount up to support the fact our hand was forced.

 

[Magus]

How hard is it to believe we didn't?

So we didn't encourage it at all?

 

[Us against the rest]

The evidence is starting to mount up to support the fact our hand was forced.

Managers. It's a different landscape now that's for sure.

 

[Malibu#27]

Managers. It's a different landscape now that's for sure.

IMO managers are a blight on the sport and have gone way past what they were originally there for.

 

[Malibu#27]

So we didn't encourage it at all?

The problem we have on the outside looking on is that what we see could just as easily be the result of the club telling him to look because we want to move him on, or the club telling him to look and come back to us with a best offer because we are being pressured to up his salary because a club is trying to pry him away.

Would we tell him to look if we wanted to move him on - YES
Would we tell him to look and get back to us if we were being played by his manager -YES

Do we have to trade him if we aren’t happy - NO

 

[Holden Hillbilly]

It's amazing how few whispers are coming out as to who we may be chasing or maybe we'll be very doing very little this trade period.

That's because no one wants to come here with our dud coach and average list.

 

[Magus]

The problem we have on the outside looking on is that what we see could just as easily be the result of the club telling him to look because we want to move him on, or the club telling him to look and come back to us with a best offer because we are being pressured to up his salary because a club is trying to pry him away.

Would we tell him to look if we wanted to move him on - YES
Would we tell him to look and get back to us if we were being played by his manager -YES

Do we have to trade him if we aren’t happy - NO

If we were being played by his manager while he's contracted, it'd be as simple as saying sorry, not happening.

 

[Butters Made Me Do It]

fair chance Howard is the Gorringe to Stephen Hill’s Ryder

”they said they wanted me bwaaaa”

 

[Fade to Gray]

The evidence is starting to mount up to support the fact our hand was forced.

How? He is contracted. If we wanted to control the narrative, the club could have nipped it in the bud and came out straight away by stating that he is contracted and a required player. The fact the club hasn't shows to me that we have actively told him to look around, which weakens the ability to get a good deal.

 

[Malibu#27]

If we were being played by his manager while he's contracted, it'd be as simple as saying sorry, not happening.

That’s the ‘do we have to trade him bit’.

If the managers playing us we force them to pay overs or no Cuban. There’s at least two ways to play a manager that’s playing us.

 

[King_Tredrea]

If we were being played by his manager while he's contracted, it'd be as simple as saying sorry, not happening.

This. Stop believing what you hear from club plants & sympathizers.

 

[Malibu#27]

How? He is contracted. If we wanted to control the narrative, the club could have nipped it in the bud and came out straight away by stating that he is contracted and a required player. The fact the club hasn't shows to me that we have actively told him to look around, which weakens the ability to get a good deal.

“PORT Adelaide has told Dougal Howard be ready to report to Alberton for pre-season, despite the key swingman telling the club he would like to join St Kilda if a trade can be brokered.”
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“Dougal is aware that he is a highly valued, required player at Port Adelaide,” Davies said.

“Given he is contracted to the end of 2022, the club will only entertain a trade with St Kilda if it is in our best interests to do so.

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Pay us what we are happy with or you’re going nowhere.

 

[Fade to Gray]

“PORT Adelaide has told Dougal Howard be ready to report to Alberton for pre-season, despite the key swingman telling the club he would like to join St Kilda if a trade can be brokered.”
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“Dougal is aware that he is a highly valued, required player at Port Adelaide,” Davies said.

“Given he is contracted to the end of 2022, the club will only entertain a trade with St Kilda if it is in our best interests to do so.

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Pay us what we are happy with or you’re going nowhere.

Yes, later on, after telling him to explore his options. It could have been shut down on day 1. Make, no mistake, the club told him to look elsewhere and that is what he has done. The club has done an extremely poor job of making him feel like a highly valued required player.

 

[elsler]

yep make us an offer we cant refuse pick 18 is not it

 

[Malibu#27]

Yes, later on, after telling him to explore his options. It could have been shut down on day 1. Make, no mistake, the club told him to look elsewhere and that is what he has done. The club has done an extremely poor job of making him feel like a highly valued required player.

Read my earlier post. We don’t know ‘why’ the club told him that.

 

[rumoursofwinter]

The start of trade period was boring. Now i'm actually interested to see what happens and if port actually has a plan. I'm expecting to be surprised?

 

[King_Tredrea]

Read my earlier post. We don’t know ‘why’ the club told him that.

There’s no justification for it regardless. If people want to speculate that the club got wind of Dougal’s manager shopping him around, just say “yeah nah” and it’s done.

 

[Malibu#27]

There’s no justification for it regardless. If people want to speculate that the club got wind of Dougal’s manager shopping him around, just say “yeah nah” and it’s done.

So your upset because the club said ‘only if it’s a really good deal that benefits us’ rather than ‘no’ ?

I guess that’s an easier stance to take if your not actually responsible for making the decision.

 

[Magus]

“Given he is contracted to the end of 2022, the club will only entertain a trade with St Kilda if it is in our best interests to do so."

That there is the really important bit. It was NEVER in our best interests to entertain a trade. They never had anything that would be worth or while and the fact we would even consider trading a key position player says we don't know how to manage our list and our coaches dont care about height and structure. Now we've let Dougal know that he's expendable though. As I said, dumb.

 

[King_Tredrea]

So your upset because the club said ‘only if it’s a really good deal that benefits us’ rather than ‘no’ ?

I guess that’s an easier stance to take if your not actually responsible for making the decision.

Yes. Dougal is untradeable. Shut it down and move on.

 

[Malibu#27]

“Given he is contracted to the end of 2022, the club will only entertain a trade with St Kilda if it is in our best interests to do so."

That there is the really important bit. It was NEVER in our best interests to entertain a trade. They never had anything that would be worth or while and the fact we would even consider trading a key position player says we don't know how to manage our list and our coaches dont care about height and structure. Now we've let Dougal know that he's expendable though. As I said, dumb.

You know that period of time between the end of the season and trade week where angry supporters say everyone is expendable for the right price...... then when it may actually happen we get upset.

Edit: I should add, if we suggested the he look without his manager playing games I’m pissed as anyone.