MRP / Trib. Tribunal Thread - rules and offences discombobulation

[shewho]

Dont these guys do it pro bono? I know John Firth did it for about 25 years in the SANFL before we entered the AFL, and continued on for several years at the Magpies. Have to ask him if he ever did AFL cases.

Yeah they do it for free. It’s been Mark Griffin QC and Krupka for the last 16 years (and Paul Elhrich QC from Melbourne for the last 10 or so). Firth did do some AFL for a year or two.

Mark Griffin died last year aged 60. We wore black armbands v The Cows in R2 for Mark and his son tossed the coin.

I knew Mark. Was a great bloke and an excellent lawyer.

 

[philreich]

Jury is deliberating on the Dalhaus one

Hope he gets off - tomorrow's newspaper headline could read, "MRO CLEARS DAHLHAUS, CHRISTIAN IN THE DOG HOUSE".

 

[Duck Farmer]

OJ’s trial was quicker

Gleeson f*cked up by insisting that SPP try on the glove.

 

[El_Scorcho]

The right decision, but absolutely ridiculous that everyone had to waste their time. Really glad we backed SPP, the last thing we want is him reining in his attack on the footy.

 

[Shaucob_Burjan]

Our legal defence is so good that it overturned the other suspensions as well.

 

[Visenfest]

Our legal defence is so good that it overturned the other suspensions as well.

PAFC doing the heavy lifting as always.

 

[Harlott]

Is that a record? Owen 3 at the tribunal in a week?

 

[Smithy7]

Two challenges, two wins: Star Cat, Power bull succeed at Tribunal
Luke Dahlhaus and Sam Powell-Pepper are both free to play after being cleared by the AFL Tribunal

Dahlhaus' one-match ban for his dangerous tackle on Adelaide's Matt Crouch was downgraded in order for the Cats small forward to be free to play the Western Bulldogs on Friday night.

Earlier in the night, Powell-Pepper's one-match ban for his dangerous tackle on Hawthorn's Ben McEvoy was thrown out by the Tribunal jury.

He was cleared to face Sydney on Saturday.

It was initially graded by Christian as careless conduct with high contact and medium impact.

However, the Power and its representative Ben Krupka successfully argued the tackle was "fair and reasonable in the circumstances".

A key part of the Power's submission was that neither of McEvoy's arms were pinned in the tackle and that the Hawks ruckman's first point of contact with the ground was with his backside.

Bans overturned: Star Cat, Power bull succeed at Tribunal

Luke Dahlhaus and Sam Powell-Pepper are both free to play after being cleared by the AFL Tribunal

www.afl.com.au

 

[sobrave]

Love the commentator reactions "a haw haw haw good bloke juddy being a bit cheeky there" while he tries to rip a prone players arm out of its socket

One of the dirtiest acts on the footy field

 

[DazalenkoUBewty]

Two challenges, two wins: Star Cat, Power bull succeed at Tribunal
Luke Dahlhaus and Sam Powell-Pepper are both free to play after being cleared by the AFL Tribunal

Dahlhaus' one-match ban for his dangerous tackle on Adelaide's Matt Crouch was downgraded in order for the Cats small forward to be free to play the Western Bulldogs on Friday night.

Earlier in the night, Powell-Pepper's one-match ban for his dangerous tackle on Hawthorn's Ben McEvoy was thrown out by the Tribunal jury.

He was cleared to face Sydney on Saturday.

It was initially graded by Christian as careless conduct with high contact and medium impact.

However, the Power and its representative Ben Krupka successfully argued the tackle was "fair and reasonable in the circumstances".

A key part of the Power's submission was that neither of McEvoy's arms were pinned in the tackle and that the Hawks ruckman's first point of contact with the ground was with his backside.

Bans overturned: Star Cat, Power bull succeed at Tribunal

Luke Dahlhaus and Sam Powell-Pepper are both free to play after being cleared by the AFL Tribunal

www.afl.com.au

Dahlhaus getting off is farcical imo.
I would have thought that tackle was pretty much exactly what NOT to do.

 

[sobrave]

Dahlhaus getting off is farcical imo.
I would have thought that tackle was pretty much exactly what NOT to do.

Yeah but the player wasn't injured so she's all apples

If crouch got concussed there it's 3 weeks

All about optics

 

[_VXV]

PAFC doing the heavy lifting as always.

The other clubs should chip in to cover the 10k because if Pep was done for that the game is farked.

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

This is why Ben Krupka getting a ruling to show other cases, could change the tribunal forever.

From the live blog feed

Ben Ihle QC is representing Luke Dahlhaus while Jeff Gleeson QC is again representing the AFL. The jury are being shown the vision of Dahlhaus' tackle on Matt Crouch now.

The jury are now being shown other incidents of rough conduct in comparison to Dahlhaus' tackle.

Mr Ihle: You couldn't be satisfied on the footage there was high contact

Mr Ihle is showing situations where players' heads hit the ground and then bounce up, saying Luke Dahlhaus' tackle is in "a way different category" to what constitutes a sling tackle.

We said there was no worries with SPP's tackle, Geelong knew it has crossed a line but wasn't a sling tackle.

Mr Ihle is pleading guilty on behalf of Dahlhaus to careless conduct, low impact, body contact.
.....
Mr Ihle: The potential to cause injury is a factor which warrants strong consideration, but it doesn't change the facts. The facts are here, there is no still, no image, no slow mo which will show contact between Matt Crouch's head and the ground. Am I satisfied there was a connection between the player's head and the ground. If the answer to that question is no, your job is done.

 

[RossFC]

Yes Peps!

 

[OneGreatClub]

Gleeson is having a bad day at the office. Wonder how the fine challenges will go.

 

[Jojay]

Dahlhaus getting off is farcical imo.
I would have thought that tackle was pretty much exactly what NOT to do.

Spot on. That was legit a copybook sling tackle.

 

[Jojay]

Does the Club still have to pay the 10k for challenging when it's successful? I assumed not

 

[Enviable Tradition]

At the game I jumped out of my seat, stood up and applauded SPP as it was right in front of me I was on level 3, for the tackle and then getting up and going again and helping to get the ball out of bounds. People around me stood up as well.

Just looked at the tackle again on the AFL website and the score was 62 v 58 and there was 3.44 left in the game. It was a match saving type tackle that had to be made and nothing was wrong with it!!!

Thank you Mr Johnson, Mr Loveridge and Mr Loewe. A commonsense decision was made.

They could have made it in 3 minutes if they got the lawyers out the way.

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[Boxx]

Did the two Richmond stagers get off?

 

[OneGreatClub]

Does the Club still have to pay the 10k for challenging when it's successful? I assumed not

No

 

[OneGreatClub]

 

[HinkleysHeroes]

He had an arm held, that is when the duty of care comes in, I'm in half an agreement with Terry.

 

[GoPorts]

I imagine the hearing took so long because it is difficult to argue in a polite way how utterly ridiculous it was that he was even charged in the first place

 

[sog35]

He had an arm held, that is when the duty of care comes in, I'm in half an agreement with Terry.

Yep, a simple tweak would be that if you have a tackle where the arm is pinned or held the tackle cannot cause the player to leave the ground.

 

[VineValerian]

Spot on. That was legit a copybook sling tackle.

I guess the tribunal did find him guilty. But of a slightly lesser charge. Hence the conviction and fine.