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and the best player ever was Wayne Carey from NSW, are you gonna claim NSW is an AFL state now? all it shows is that most of australia's sporting talent comes from north of the murray. A well known fact to anyone who follows relatively even spread national sports like cricket or soccer

It was a little article on the NRL site so I assume you guys missed this. If anyone actually remembers who campaigner is by 2011, it'll be to have a laugh about him. http://www.nrl.com/newsviews/latestnews/newsarticle/tabid/10874/newsid/56907/hunt-deflated-after-finals-exit/default.aspx What a...

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The AFL has treated Canberra with arrogance and disdain for decades and thats why its lost the city. Canberra's got successful teams in the NRL and Super14 and will probably eventually have one in the A-League. Its a town that doesn't see itself as a provincial backwater, it sees itself as a...

Maybe I am wrong on this, but I thought they didn't usually play AFL games there on the same weekends as NRL games because it took too long to change the stadium around. If thats the case it'd complicate things a bit. Personally I hope the AFL team being there forces NRL teams to go back to...

Souths were circling the drain at the time. They were running at a huge loss and it was widely believed they would be relocated or bust within a year or two. I think they were relying on handouts from a few wealthy benefactors (namely Russel Crowe) just to pay the players from week to week. The...

AFL is a professional, polished, commercial, modern and inoffensive competition these days. Players are drafted from anywhere to clubs they don't choose, there are few unshared 'home' grounds, any hint of violence has been drummed out to please the soccer mums. Its too late to try and...

Canberra is the sporting capital of Australia - Higher sports participation rate than anywhere else. - Is considered a 'heartland' for all 3 footy codes. All of them are commonly referred to as 'footy'. - Is a small city yet has serious local leagues of pretty much any sport you can think of...

The NRL finally admits returning the Reds is a serious option: http://www.warugbyleague.com.au/content/news/?page=3&nid=2960&oid Gotta love what the WA Reds are doing over there. Starting at the grassroots, building a club without any significant outside help. By competing in east coast...

Just as a point of interest, that is an often overlooked but major cultural difference between AFL and NRL fans. NRL is heavily based on local area pride and tribalism. - There is no draft so local people tend to end up playing for the local team. - Fans usually know who the local raised...

Great post Griff, hard to argue with anything there.

I don't think too many kids ever think 'well I'm gonna switch codes cause I can early slightly more in AFL without leaving Australia' or 'Im gonna play soccer cause I might be able to be filthy rich instead of just normal rich playing RL/AFL' Kids playing any code usually just want to play for...

Rugby League isn't a shit sport to watch live, its just that its not bad to watch on TV. You can actually get a pretty good grasp of whats happening when you watch on TV, most of the action is in front of the cameras. The atmosphere is better at the ground, obviously, but home viewing still lets...

How many Victorians were on this team? I've got a funny feeling that like all major Australian sports the big V will be embarassingly underrepresented. wait wait are most of these players from NSW? The same state that produced the best ever AFL, Cricket and Rugby Union player? The same state...

Re: Create Name and Jumper of new Gold Coast Team = WIN

Well the Titans will be a club built on local players, bringing up a large amount of players straight out of the Gold Coast rugby league system. The ones who aren't local will be players who chose to live in and represent the Gold Coast community of their own free will. The GC AFL team will...

The main reason theres no Vics in the NRL is that it was barely played in Victoria 10 years ago. After 10 years of RL growth Victoria now has slightly higher player numbers than WA I think, and theres WA players in the NRL. The first batch of Vic kids who started playing RL young have come...

It truly is a crap stadium in rectangle configuration. Devoid of any feel to it. I've been to a few NRL games there and honestly you get a lot more atsmosphere watching the game at a pub on TV than you do in the stadium.

Just for the record there is actually about 10 WAers playing in the NRL at the moment. A few off the top of my head: Matt Peterson (Gold Coast Titans) Daniel Holdsworth (Bulldogs) Bronx Goodwin (Raiders) Bryson Goodwin (Sharks) Can't remember anymore right now but thats the makings of a...

Panther means different things to different people apparently, but it can definitely mean cougar. I wont argue cause I don't know the legal system. I'll just say that if it really can't be legally challenged I am surprised. This would be like the NRL starting a team in fremantle called the...

Aren't Collingwood pretty heavily involved with the Melbourne Vixens in the new netball comp? Its another dirty AFL move in their anti-storm conspiracy!

West Sydney Panthers would be a great name. Theres been myths and the occasional dubious sighting of a big black cat in the blue mountains surrounding sydney's west for many decades. Sadly, thats exactly why the Penrith NRL team are called the Panthers. No chances whatsoever they'd let an AFL...

Genghis isn't insulting the sport. He's just saying the way it has worked out for the AFL, they have 2 teams that don't really reach out and grab the locals as their team. Look at it this way. Soon the Sydney Swans will come out to play against the Brisbane Lions. They will be representing the...

I'm pretty sure I read that the Gold Coast Titans (NRL) originally wanted to call themselves the Dolphins, but the Redcliffe Dolphins (from the Queensland state rugby league comp) threatened to sue. So although its a great name for any coastal team, I don't think it could be used.

The Bears (on the central coast) bid apparently wasn't far behind the Gold Coast Titans when the NRL chose the 16th team, so their bid was obviously pretty impressive. Now that the Mariners are collecting more and more support for soccer on the central coast, you'd think the NRL might...

Obviously North Sydney is a special case, and its the part of Sydney I have almost no experience with so won't argue what it was like when the Bears were still there. But even the fact that is has turned against Rugby League now seems like a good example of what I was saying about the local...

Yea, a pair of Sydney AFL fans and their friends are a great sample to measure loyalty to rugby league teams. I wasn't talking about passion anyway. What I said was RL fans are more likely to follow their local team, which I put down to the NRL being a much more local area based competition...

Or maybe the NRL has local players (no draft) and actual home grounds so having some local pride and supporting your local team still means something to rugby league fans.

Thats not how it works in a draftless system though. Youre still thinking about it from an AFL perspective where 18 year olds arrive on the market unattached to any club. That only happens in the AFL because of the draft. Having bad facilites is a disadvantage for a club, but its only ever one...

Andyzany, by saying soccer's not huge across Asia you are feeding into Genghis and Hoops' argument. About 60% of all the world's population is in Asia.