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Really fair result in the end to a club in complete denial. Harsh on the players but completely understandable. No way should the end result be a number 1 pick. Essendon were going to be shite anyway this season (8-14). Really want them to be kicked hard as Hird is still in denial and so is the...

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C'mon guys, let's stop trying to clarify Yarran's value. This whole Yarran thread really boils down to Carlton and Richmond fans trying to get one over on each other which precedes fair thinking. The arguments would be exactly opposite if Yarran was a Richmond player and Carlton had picks...

**** off Carlton. Kerridge is just a waste of a list spot. At first we looked at Treloar and he went somewhere else. Then we looked at aish and he wanted the Pies. Then we looked at Carlisle and he chose the Saints. **** right off with this list clogger! Curnow can do roughly the same job...

Good player Carlisle. Good on Saints for winning him over. They have a good list on the way up. I wanted him at the right price. Understand the feelings by most that they trumped Carlton. Carlton have lessons to learn. The decision not to win Carlisle at all costs is a great leap fwd for the...

Stupid back and forth by both supporters. Yarran is worth in the range of 18-25 because he is a best 22 player despite dumb people citing VFL. But he wants to leave so it gets pushed back to a range 20-30. 20 would be fine from Carlton's point of view; 30 much less attractive but great for...

Listening to Dodoro, he said Carlisle has met with Carlton. Said he will meet with Saints and Doggies on Carlisle's return. If that is correct, you'd think there was more early interest on him joining Carlton. If I was going for a new role, I would go to my first choice first but keep the...

Sorry for causing offence there ironman. Things have changed since Judd style trade. That showed giving up 2 strong picks (pick / Kennedy) is not such a smart move. What you might be forgetting is that he has already played 2/3 of his best seasons like Judd had. You think what he produces...

C'mon guys...give Seedsman some love and post in this forum. He just slipped to the third page. Pies are all over this guy to help the Trelaor/Aish deals so he must be good and everyone must want him. I just don't understand why there is no one in here getting excited! Surely he could help...

+1 I hope all of Essendon's picks turn out like that so you have my full support.

Geelong have been a good club to deal with over the last few years. There will be no PSD. **** people are jut deluded on how this has changed. A deal will get done that closely compensates Adelaide.

C'mon Jet; let's be realistic here. When Yarran pulls his finger out, he is VERY good for a ten minute patch of a quarter two times a game. Will improve at a better club with a better player list. But let's not get carried away; at Carlton he has been disappointing if not average over years of...

Injuries completely derail Freeman's value in terms of a premium pick. Collingwood left him to last with the least priority. That shows his worth. Doesn't mean he can't be a gun for Saint Kilda but does show injuries may screw his career over....many precedents... Gumbleton, D Thomas etc...

Too late. I think earlier in the season they decided to go for it hence the Hendo deal to accompany Danger and Selwood. They have decided to roll the dice. Could easily backfire as they might come up short quality wise even with Danger. If the decision was made after the season finished, I'd...

Danger is worth a strong first round pick 6-12 and a pick 24-30. He is not really worth more than that due to age (25). Danger will offer 4 very good years before declining at 29/30. 4 years with a smell of a flag for Geelong is worth a pick 6-12. That player wont be as good as danger based...

Love all these posters who think they know where he is going. I have it on very good authority that they have signed him up on the 100 Mars mission and he will go into training until the 2026 launch! Apparently, they offered 801,000....$1 more dollar than Saint Kilda. Carlisle is not put off...

That's not the point though Hagla. Let's agree they are close on ability with Yarran better right now. Richmond are only interested in 'adding significant extra' quality to their tilt towards a flag. Swapping Yarran/Lennon is very close to pointless in terms of net gain. Yes, Yarran is slightly...

Yarran is 4/5 years older than Lennon. That fact is very important not to forget. Half of Yarran's career is gone.

I think the Lennon request by Carlton fans is ridiculous. Richmond are looking at 'adding' quality, not 'trading' quality with a net gain of little. Yes Yarran is ready to go but Lennon could easily impact next year and hugely the year after. And TBH, Yarran has 'never' impacted in a...

+1 The player movement market is growing fast. Carlton will know the PSD threat will damage their future reputation as a club to deal with. Silvagni needs to change that image or you lose out on lots of other players options, let alone revenge acts in the future. Unlike the hoards of inbred...

Carlisle is a difficult one. It is concerning if he does opt for either St Kilda or Carlton. I mean really...why go to a club like St Kilda (will be r*ped of players at some stage) or Carlton which is a complete basket case. Looks like the new breed of player going to a shit club to maximise...

The Seedsman v Yarran is one of those You're just a dickwad being a dickwad! Yes Yarran is no Treloar / Aish / Bennell but he is no Seedsman either. Just look at the Seedsman thread. Zero ****ing interest in a zero rated player. Seedsman is a steak knife in other trade scenarios...in fact he...

A lot of clubs don't take this path at all and look for win/wins in what is a tough situation. Bombers are notorious for being stubborn, difficult and over-valueing of any of their players. Note: This is not a shot at Essendon, it is just the truth. Carlton are exactly the same...a shit club to...

I think the fact that there is no announcement means he is open to choices. Treloar, Dixon and Henderson show clubs/managers have been sorting deals out prior to the trade period. If Jake really had determination for a club, i'm sure he would have said by now.

You will probably end up with nothing....same for Blues

The guy is complete trouble so there is only one club for him. The Blues :p We specialize in loonatics! We will give you all our picks; we cant resist an arseh*le playing for us!

Think we were disgruntled at the time but we got over that when you took Hampson off our hands. Tall, athletic, very fast; just cant play football. Honest to god fist pumps.

And that opportunity 'needs' to address probability...that's what wrecks it. Probability is massive....probability says that you might have a 1/4 chance of picking a player that makes a team's best 22 if you had pick 35. You are making the mistake of using pick 1 as your example...probability of...

Oh dear. Pick 35 is as valuable as history shows us. Of course, we can widen that range to take some of the luck out of the analysis...say 32-38. Over history and based on odds; it isn't worth much. Yarran is worth more than that pick lining up the players selected and odds of actually getting...

If we have to get back on topic then I have five things to say: Carlisle is worth pick 7-20 on football ability Carlisle is slightly concerning on the team side of things given what he is doing....add to that injury concerns...dilutes value a bit for mine (not much tho) Why would he come to...