List Mgmt. “It’s a form of tanking” the Richmond rebuild

[geelong_crazy26]

Not downplaying his contribution at all. Just saying that of the many, many talent holes we have to fill to be a premiership team, key defender is not one of them.

You had 4 elite defenders in rance vlastuin grimes and houli. Atm I would say your defensive stocks are far from it

 

[The Gulden Child]

I thought I would have a look at how teams have faired playing kids. (Debuts) Year.

The debuts are draft picks not trades.

(87) 2020 (94) 2021, (84) 2022, (70) 2023 (76) 2024

2020: Adelaide 9 debuts and the spoon. Sydney and GCS next with 7 debuts each finished bottom 5.

2021: Adelaide 9 debuts. Pies 9 debuts. Hawthorn 7 debuts. All bottom 5. North won the spoon with 2 debuts that year.

2022: West Coast 10 debuts second last. Hawthorn next with 8 and Essendon 7. Hawks 13th Essendon bottom 5.

2023: Hawthorn 7 , Richmond 6 both bottom 5 and West Coast 6 plus the spoon. Collingwood win flag see 2021.

2024: Pies, Richmond won the spoon, North, St Kilda and West Coast all 6 debutants. North and West Coast bottom 5.


Admittedly I actually don't don't what to make of this. Its cold and wet. I thought teams might be playing more kids which might be encouraging for the Tigers fielding a young team. Debuts have dropped in the last two seasons.

Like always you need to nail recruiting, coaching and drafting it seems. Hence the positions North and West Coast are in.

 

[Rich01]

Think it’s best to wrap it up here. Enjoy the draft picks

Thank Christ.

After 30+ posts in this thread demanding anyone and everyone acknowledge that Richmond weren’t picking the best player in this draft I had begun to think you were a little unhinged.

 

[geelong_crazy26]

Thank Christ.

After 30+ posts in this thread demanding anyone and everyone acknowledge that Richmond weren’t picking the best player in this draft I had begun to think you were a little unhinged.

You do realize my posts were all replying to very wound up Richmond posters?? They didn’t just appear in reply to nothing. Perhaps they should calm a little.

 

[sydney_gws]

I would say a restructure, not tanking.

 

[geelong_crazy26]

I would say a restructure, not tanking.

It’s not tanking being genuinely shit and a poor culture to the point your best players want out. That’s just a poorly run club

 

[sydney_gws]

It’s not tanking being genuinely shit and a poor culture to the point your best players want out. That’s just a poorly run club

Or they realise they should move for mutual benefit, staying at Richmond means winning 9 games a year for next 6 years, without any top 4 picks coming in the door. The club becomes Hawthorn 2019 to 2023, Essendon 2015 to 2024.

 

[PetterdHoisted]

It’s not tanking being genuinely shit and a poor culture to the point your best players want out. That’s just a poorly run club

Richmond famously never tanked in the era of tanking.

Two teams cheered when my man Ricky Petterd and Jordy Mac knocked off Melbourne in the dying moments in 2009 to finish second last.

Melbourne vs Richmond (2009 AFL season) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The belated fines to the Melbourne hierarchy surrounding that game were reasonably stiff for individuals, I just don't reckon it would happen anymore, 6-12 month suspensions is a huge penalty for individuals, and it would be longer now.

 

[geelong_crazy26]

Or they realise they should move for mutual benefit, staying at Richmond means winning 9 games a year for next 6 years, without any top 4 picks coming in the door. The club becomes Hawthorn 2019 to 2023, Essendon 2015 to 2024.

It probably wouldn’t be 9 wins a year given they only won two games this year. It will be a few years down the bottom to come. More north Melbourne as an equivalent or Melbourne early 2010’s

 

[geelong_crazy26]

Richmond famously never tanked in the era of tanking.

Two teams cheered when my man Ricky Petterd and Jordy Mac knocked off Melbourne in the dying moments in 2009 to finish second last.

Melbourne vs Richmond (2009 AFL season) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The belated fines to the Melbourne hierarchy surrounding that game were reasonably stiff for individuals, I just don't reckon it would happen anymore, 6-12 month suspensions is a huge penalty for individuals, and it would be longer now.

I don’t believe Richmond are tanking. They put in a lot of genuine effort this season. They just lacked talent. You can’t fault effort.

Finn O’Sullivan is looking the likely no1 pick if you don’t want to bid on Ashcroft, and from all reports he is an Andrew brayshaw clone.

Solid tough balanced in and out player who is well rounded overall. Not explosive or powerful, but a very well rounded strong in/out mid. Will be a good midfielder for a decade.

 

[Mitchell Madness]

I will rephrase, he is unanimously considered the best player in the draft, much like daicos due to being F/S, he is tipped to go a bit lower on some draft boards.

You’re welcome

 

[tiger_tough]

Oh good, another Richmond thread turned into a cats v tigers shit fight.

Take it to the bay nerds.

 

[geelong_crazy26]

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Not hawthorn trolls now. There is enough low IQ in here as it is. I am already dealing with supporters who don’t understand what a number one draft pick means.

 

[Rich01]

Oh good, another Richmond thread turned into a cats v tigers shit fight.

Take it to the bay nerds.

Yup, there’s a couple of notorious Geelong supporters that have dropped the intellect of the thread significantly. Perhaps they they aren’t getting enough attention in other threads.

 

[geelong_crazy26]

Yup, there’s a couple of notorious Geelong supporters that have dropped the intellect of the thread significantly. Perhaps they they aren’t getting enough attention in other threads.

I spent about three pages trying to help a Richmond supporter work out what cal twomney means when he says “ Finn o’Sullivan is a number one draft pick contender”. If anything mate I probably should be getting an Employment package as a teaching aid in here for people of this IQ level.

 

[tiger_tough]

I spent about three pages trying to help a Richmond supporter work out what cal twomney means when he says “ Finn o’Sullivan is a number one draft pick contender”. If anything mate I probably should be getting an Employment package as a teaching aid in here for people of this IQ level.

 

[geelong_crazy26]

Made me laugh. What show is this from?

 

[tiger_tough]

Made me laugh. What show is this from?

You've never seen The Office?

 

[geelong_crazy26]

You've never seen The Office?

Actually havent. Missing out?

 

[PhatBoy]

You've never seen The Office?

In fairness I waited a long, long time to bother watching this poor imitation of a far superior product

 

[tiger_tough]

In fairness I waited a long, long time to bother watching this poor imitation of a far superior product

so it'll be a while till you watch the Aussie one then?