List Mgmt. 2015 Trade, Draft, Rookie Draft and FA Megathread

[Loyal Sainter]

Damo: The only way the Saints can get Carlisle is to use pick 5, and they need to be smart with the way they use it #NABTradeRadio

back peddling much!

Last week it was "saints just need to trade pick 5 for Carlisle and get it done"

And if we do make the trade with port he'll say something like " Saints should have kept pick 5 for elite top end talent"

Flog of the highest order!

Now he's blowing smoke up Collingwood's arse saying how amazing their trading is this year and if they pull it off they're a big chance to play finals in 2016.
Not a mention about the underhanded manner regarding Treloars operation that was kept quiet. Nor was there a mention regarding Aish "outrageously" leaving Brisbane after a couple of years. Even though Freeman was crucified via the media.
Croc media alright. Croc of s**t!!!

 

[TheJackal]

Port are making the mistake of trading for a contracted player.

It's nothing to do with whether a Dixon is better than a Carlisle, it's all about contracts. Essendon themselves know all about it because we asked about Myers whilst he was contracted, they kept him because they asked for ridiculous overs due to the contracted status of Myers.

So to summarise, a contracted player either goes for overs of stays with his current club. An uncontracted player either goes for a deal considered either fair or a loss (depending on how much they piss off the new team) or the have the ability to go for nothing via a draft.

The Danger scenario is also unique because Adelaide would have had pick 14 as a FA, so they were probably just satisfied to be seen as getting a better deal than that and to be fair considering the OOC status of Danger. There is a fair bit of love between those two clubs this year too.

It really isn't rocket science when discussing trades and contract status though, something the media seem to skip over regularly.

 

[Simple Jack]

Damo: The only way the Saints can get Carlisle is to use pick 5, and they need to be smart with the way they use it #NABTradeRadio

back peddling much!

Last week it was "saints just need to trade pick 5 for Carlisle and get it done"

And if we do make the trade with port he'll say something like " Saints should have kept pick 5 for elite top end talent"

Flog of the highest order!

It's all of them. It's so infuriating.

On SEN this morning someone rang up and pointed out how as soon as the Hawthorn thing came up the media were into us with "Oh St Kilda ****ed it up, getting beaten by the Hawks etc" but then on Friday when Carlisle's manager came out and said St Kilda or PSD there has been silence. No heat on Essendon at all. Also made points about the varying levels of professionalism between the clubs.

He was pretty much dismissed straight off the bat.

 

[The_Steadier]

So far the Power have baulked at the Suns' demands for two first-round picks for Dixon

CanadianSaint made an important point before- if port don't want to pay 2 first rounders for dixon- why would they give us 10 and next years first to get dixon?

Doesn't make sense.

Don't get too excited people- could well be pick 10 and ports 2nd on offer for pick 5.

Pass.

 

[Saintos The ITK]

Tom Browne is reporting on Twitter that the Saints' latest offer to Essendon is pick 5 for Carlisle and Essendon's third-round pick

 

[Simple Jack]

Tom Browne is reporting on Twitter that the Saints' latest offer to Essendon is pick 5 for Carlisle and Essendon's third-round pick

God I hope not.

 

[Baker_for_PM]

If a trade for Carlisle is reached i believe the picks involved need to be such that we are able to go into this years ND with a selection inside the top 10. The only way i like the Port deal is if we either get a 2nd rounder back to package up and then on trade or use the proposed future pick on Jake. I don't like the idea of limiting ourselves of potential high end talent for even a year. Or i might be just overly cautious so to prevent age disparage in our list further down the track.

 

[cowboysteel66]

Tom Browne is reporting on Twitter that the Saints' latest offer to Essendon is pick 5 for Carlisle and Essendon's third-round pick

That was essendons offer to st kilda, and yesterday Sandra.

 

[Saintos The ITK]

That was essendons offer to st kilda, and yesterday Sandra.

I'm actually Peter, Peter Hitchener. Saints supporter.

 

[cowboysteel66]

I'm actually Peter, Peter Hitchener. Saints supporter.

Well that's ok then Pete.

 

[King_Steele]

187cm goal kicking clearance midfielder. Has a bit of the Fyfes about him.

Sounds a lot like old mate Clayton Oliver..

 

[St Kilda Death]

These idiots on trade radio dont know that bains made that offer on the weekend. Thwy still think hawks in the picture

 

[luckysaint48]

Lol purple is such a ********

How do these journos even get a job? I'd rather employ gillo as a guesser for my news paper than half of these flogs.

The trade will eventually go through and Brown will still be banging on about pick 5. Dog with a bone.

 

[Stillwaiting]

Tom Browne is reporting on Twitter that the Saints' latest offer to Essendon is pick 5 for Carlisle and Essendon's third-round pick

If that's true that's total surrender to Dido, we will be laughing stock

 

[Goddardwetrust]

I just made the mistake of listening to trade radio, and those peanuts still cannot understand why we haven't let pick 5 go for Carlisle.

Are we just too biased in thinking pick 5 alone is not worth just Jake on his own, or are these "experts right".

 

[AFLOnline]

I'd be retracting all offers just to see Carlisle go to the PSD..

At this point I don't even give a shit if he doesn't make it to our pick.. I'd be 100% satisfied just knowing Dodoro loses his job and we take pick 5 to the draft.

Win win.

 

[L_W_P]

Because sports media isnt about reporting facts it's about creating the narrative. What is the story that will get people talking, listening and watching?

The media will drum up as much noise about pick 5 for Carlisle as they can because that way, regardless of the deal that gets done, they have a big story to go on with -

Pick 5 for Carlisle = St Kilda have wasted everyone's time. Essendon get a great deal. Call in and tell us if you think the Saints paid too much.

Carlisle to Hawthorn = St Kilda got trumped. Can the Hawks 4peat? Call in and tell us if anyone can stop Hawthorn and what do the Saints do at CHB now?

Carlisle to Saints for less than #5 = Essendon have failed. Lost Crameri, Ryder and Carlisle for unders. Is there a problem with their trading? Listen in as we disect Essendon's list. Call in and tell us if you think Essendon could have done better.

All about pushing a story to get people engaged, no matter how much BS needs to go with it.

 

[xfiledavid]

The way I see it. Essendon accept our offer. Or our 2nd rounder. No further comprises. If not move on. We don't need him, if available in PSD great. If not bad luck. We still have pick 5. We are still prying the window open. Its ajar but its still going to take a while.

 

[Billy Connolly]

Who is Tom Browne?

 

[dougiemac]

Which word in the sentence: 'PSD', do these people not understand?

 

[gringo2011]

I know that but in my opinion Dixon is worth 9-14.

If Carlisle was happy to play as a KPF his value would double. KPBs are as romantic as a date at Maccas. Dixon has been struck down with injuries but at his best he is a 3 to 4 goal forward who can play ruck for a chop out. With the reduced interchange his types value will sky rocket. Even Rhys Stanley- we were paid ridiculous overs for his adaptability. Both unfortunately injury prone but Dixon could be a revelation if his body gets right.

 

[Billy Connolly]

Dixon is so injury prone that he is only worth 15 games a season. At an average of 3 goals a game that equates to 45 goals. Is that worth pick 5?

 

[karaoke]

Saints obviously using the Francis at #5 carrot with (firstly) Crows, now Port.

 

[BarkerFan]

We are just letting the Bombers know that there are ways they can miss 5, IMO

i.e. if we trade 5 for Ports 10+29, we have done better than the Bombers current offer already...

So bombers need to at least throw back one of their first rounder

Didnt Adelaide offer 13+28 for 5?
If we got them to increase the offer a just bit to 13+28+32 for 5+45 then we would have 3 second rounders... 13 for Carlisle

 

[pebblesofsand]

Sick of this - new rumours required. How about Port discussions re swap of first rounders fall over and but we agree to pick up John Butcher for Pick 45 and turn him into a defender for 1/3 of the price of Carlisle.