List Mgmt. 2017 Draft Discussion II - Draft Day

[Moorabbin Ghost]

Too bad Rooey's Tassie camp won't be on. I reckon that was great for the new players.

Who said it won’t be?

 

[VDS66]

Who said it won’t be?

Does the club think Clark will be ready to play round 1?

 

[Moorabbin Ghost]

Does the club think Clark will be ready to play round 1?

It’s really hard to say how kids respond mentally and physically to their first pre season but what I do know is that our recruiters had him right at top of draft rankings, he’s looked at as being in same class as Paddy and JB. On talent alone he’s in our best 22 but it will all depend on how he copes with a full time workload.

 

[austinnn]

Patrosh Dangerlly?

Everyone wants a Fyfe or a Dangerfield on their list, right? Well I give you...

Fyfe Dangerfield!

Pros:
Uncontracted Free agent (check contract with Guillemots)
Hairstyle already in line with the hair bear sector of our list
Very attractive, good for our female and gay fans
Good with dealing with the media, fame, etc, expresses himself well in front of a microphone
From outside Australia, he qualifies as a Cat II rookie
No knock on his character, speed, endurance, or kicking
Versatile, not a one-position player

Cons
Never played the game
Would have to move to Australia from the UK
A little old at 37
Probably have to spend a couple of seasons just building a tank
Difficult to gauge level of motivation

High risk high reward get it done Ameetos

 

[cooperrules]

So, we snagged two midfielders with elite disposal and high speed with 7 + 8, and then an AA KPD with our next pick; all three players flagged for having great character?

Whilst I can see how Clark and Coffield lasted until the picks they did, given the evenness of the top end, I'm surprised Clavarino lasted until where we got him. Any idea on the knocks on his game?
It seems like Clark and Coffield lack the kind of X-factor like those taken higher (e.g Stephenson) have, however we've already got the likes of Gresham + Billings for that; they seem the type who will be able to perform to a high standard consistently. If you look at football from a metrics perspective, it's really about metres gained (whilst maintaining possession, of course) to create scoring opportunities, and the two ways to achieve this is with good penetrating disposal or by run and carry; both are traits held by Clark and Coffield.

Bonar and fogarty were still there at our picks both high risk high reward x factor types.

 

[VDS66]

It’s really hard to say how kids respond mentally and physically to their first pre season but what I do know is that our recruiters had him right at top of draft rankings, he’s looked at as being in same class as Paddy and JB. On talent alone he’s in our best 22 but it will all depend on how he copes with a full time workload.

He would have to be managed and I doubt he has enough of a fitness base to run through the middle on a regular basis.

Would like to see him get 3 blocks of 4 games. Same for the Coff.

 

[aussierulesrules]

I reckon Clark will probably play 15+ games.

He's a bit of a bag of bones (and seeing that pic of him at training the other day did make me understand why some apparently have doubts about his ability to bulk up enough to be able to play inside at AFL level- but hopefully he will), but he's got the versatility to be able to play outside and back, or even forward, so I just think we'll find ways to get and then keep him in the team as much as possible, and that will be helped if/when we have injuries.

I guess the thing that could make that harder is if they're just as keen to get Coff in, but with him being taller, I reckon they'll see H as being more ready-to-go, and I think he's probably got the bigger tank at the moment as well, which will give him even more of an edge.

I just hope they don't bring him in really early if he's not really ready, like they did Billings, Paddy, Gresh and Long, but they probably will. So here's hoping he's more ready from the get-go than they were. Like Dunstan, Sincs and Lonie. I suspect he will be, as his tank is prolly better than any of the first four had.

 

[sunny3193]

Everyone wants a Fyfe or a Dangerfield on their list, right? Well I give you...

Fyfe Dangerfield!

Pros:
Uncontracted Free agent (check contract with Guillemots)
Hairstyle already in line with the hair bear sector of our list
Very attractive, good for our female and gay fans
Good with dealing with the media, fame, etc, expresses himself well in front of a microphone
From outside Australia, he qualifies as a Cat II rookie
No knock on his character, speed, endurance, or kicking
Versatile, not a one-position player

Cons
Never played the game
Would have to move to Australia from the UK
A little old at 37
Probably have to spend a couple of seasons just building a tank
Difficult to gauge level of motivation

High risk high reward get it done Ameetos

Whatever made you think to Google “Fyfe Dangerfield”?
Unless you’re a fanboy.

 

[Palantine]

Mate if you reckon trout drafted sinclair on the back of jb saying he's a gun you've lost your mind

don't think i've lost my mind yet. I remember reading Billings told the recruiters about him in some way or form. so it was taken as useful intel most likely. no doubt I'm being unkind though. oh shit Hard Quiz is on!!

 

[Tommy Wigs]

I reckon Clark will probably play 15+ games.

He's a bit of a bag of bones (and seeing that pic of him at training the other day did make me understand why some apparently have doubts about his ability to bulk up enough to be able to play inside at AFL level- but hopefully he will), but he's got the versatility to be able to play outside and back, or even forward, so I just think we'll find ways to get and then keep him in the team as much as possible, and that will be helped if/when we have injuries.

I guess the thing that could make that harder is if they're just as keen to get Coff in, but with him being taller, I reckon they'll see H as being more ready-to-go, and I think he's probably got the bigger tank at the moment as well, which will give him even more of an edge.

I just hope they don't bring him in really early if he's not really ready, like they did Billings, Paddy, Gresh and Long, but they probably will. So here's hoping he's more ready from the get-go than they were. Like Dunstan, Sincs and Lonie. I suspect he will be, as his tank is prolly better than any of the first four had.

When’s the intraclub? Is it here yet?!

I actually think for an 18 yo he’s a decent size. Should fill out into those shoulders.

 

[Sab22]

LUCKLESS St Kilda forward Paddy McCartin has suffered a right foot injury and will be on restricted duties for about a month.

heck ME! Why can't the kid get a run at it. SO PISSED OFF

 

[DGontheQT]

When I think Hunter Clark , I do draw comparisons with Jordan Lewis. Both went Pick 7 in the Draft , both use their left foot and have other similarities , and when Hunter's career is over , he will of hopefully had the same success , without ever needing to go to the Dees to finish his career. I too have the feeling , that Hunter will give the Rising Star Award a real shake.

 

[Joffaboy]

Bonar and fogarty were still there at our picks both high risk high reward x factor types.

Both shitcampaigners, well they are now.

 

[goodie23]

So, we snagged two midfielders with elite disposal and high speed with 7 + 8, and then an AA KPD with our next pick; all three players flagged for having great character?

Whilst I can see how Clark and Coffield lasted until the picks they did, given the evenness of the top end, I'm surprised Clavarino lasted until where we got him. Any idea on the knocks on his game?
It seems like Clark and Coffield lack the kind of X-factor like those taken higher (e.g Stephenson) have, however we've already got the likes of Gresham + Billings for that; they seem the type who will be able to perform to a high standard consistently. If you look at football from a metrics perspective, it's really about metres gained (whilst maintaining possession, of course) to create scoring opportunities, and the two ways to achieve this is with good penetrating disposal or by run and carry; both are traits held by Clark and Coffield.

Kicking can be pretty shaky, improved this year but still wobbly under pressure. Also despite his size there's some question marks on his strength one-on-one.

 

[DGontheQT]

Fogerty was too much of a risk.

Not only due to injury and shit form but due to flight risk.

No doubt though he is the most talented of this draft group if he can put it all together.

Look Bonar I genuinely wish him well but he's had literally half a season of game time that we can assess him on. That's a huge risk especially when we need to nail these two picks.

Everyone has waxed lyrical about his professionalism but honestly so what. Nathan Wright is amongst the hardest trainers at our club and with due respect he's a battler. He was a highly touted 15 year old and then was injured until halfway through this year, had no real stand out games.

The only game he looked above average was the all star game and that has no defensive pressure and is made for attacking players to look good.

I'd be ******* ropeable if we took a risk on him.

He is now a Giant Bonar. Bruce better lay off of "delicious" when commentating his games.

 

[goodie23]

When I think Hunter Clark , I do draw comparisons with Jordan Lewis. Both went Pick 7 in the Draft , both use their left foot and have other similarities , and when Hunter's career is over , he will of hopefully had the same success , without ever needing to go to the Dees to finish his career. I too have the feeling , that Hunter will give the Rising Star Award a real shake.

Kind of hope not, I gave up on picking Lewis in Supercoach because he got suspended too often

 

[Dr Spaceman]

Bonar and fogarty were still there at our picks both high risk high reward x factor types.

Now they're no longer in our considerations they simply have ex factor.

 

[austinnn]

Whatever made you think to Google “Fyfe Dangerfield”?
Unless you’re a fanboy.

Honestly, I was searching for info on another singer just called Fyfe so I googled "fyfe -nat" and this dude popped up. Maybe his middle name is Dusty!

 

[Winmar2Lockett]

Kicking can be pretty shaky, improved this year but still wobbly under pressure. Also despite his size there's some question marks on his strength one-on-one.

Clav’s kicking action looks like Darren Jarman’s compared to Aaron Naughton’s.

Naughton currently physically stronger but 3-4 preseason’s down the track & that should even out.

One went at 9, the other at 36.

It’ll be intriguing to watch the careers of both & see if Trout picked a gem at a low cost.


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[bird_man]

Clav’s kicking action looks like Darren Jarman’s compared to Aaron Naughton’s.

Naughton currently physically stronger but 3-4 preseason’s down the track & that should even out.

One went at 9, the other at 36.

It’ll be intriguing to watch the careers of both & see if Trout picked a gem at a low cost.


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Harrison Petty is another one to keep your eye on. He was ranked slightly ahead of Oscar by most that I saw but we passed on him to take Clavarino.

I was pretty keen on Petty but I am pretty happy with Clavarino, looks like he could be anything.

 

[CursingFijian]

I know Bonar is a giant but the best nickname for him would be ‘petite’ which is the exact opposite. As in ‘Bonar Petite’.

It’d be like calling him ‘tiny’ only in Spanish.

 

[CursingFijian]

How Darcy Fogarty can play like both Sidebottom and Hutchings is making me feel a bit sceptical about these comparisons.

Zac Bailey looks like a likely type.

 

[Ekomaira]

I know Bonar is a giant but the best nickname for him would be ‘petite’ which is the exact opposite. As in ‘Bonar Petite’.

It’d be like calling him ‘tiny’ only in Spanish.

looking at that, Cerra and Clark must be pretty similar type players

 

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I know Bonar is a giant but the best nickname for him would be ‘petite’ which is the exact opposite. As in ‘Bonar Petite’.

It’d be like calling him ‘tiny’ only in Spanish.

The weirdest part of those comparisons is that the AFL players themselves are nothing alike for most players

 

[aussierulesrules]

Clark for me is Sloane.

I certainly don't get Zorko, Ziebell or Higgins!