List Mgmt. 2017 Trade & FA Targets Part 2

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Does anyone have a link to a quote from the club saying we have ruled ourselves out of getting Martin?

It seems very strange as he is exactly the type of player we need.
AFL Website has Jamie Cox on SEN stating that we are into Dustin Martin and Josh Kelly and not in to Fyfe. Could be all smoke and mirrors though. I don't know what to believe!
 
With Martin being ruled out then back in again, I can't take that Fyfe quote totally as fact.

If he gets back to form I'd assume we'll be in again
 
Was very bullish on K.Collins (WB) in the draft as a big bodied backman - has had both hips scraped out since joining the dogs and his family are a bit concerned about how loose he's getting off field living over in a share house in the west.
Might be time to head back over this side of the bay Kieran?
I'm surprised the off field activity of a number of dogs players is not attracting more attention. Theyre pretty open about going on 2 day benders after the game etc.
 
Mick Warner mentioned on On The Couch that offer or offers are now around the $12mil mark for 9 years for Kelly. Sounds like both us and North may be around that mark now, but definitely North, from what he said.

Things getting serious!
Are North crazy? You don't pay that much for one player when you've just started your rebuild.
 
At this rate Kelly is going to cost 1.5m per year, by the end of the year. I think it is too much given he will cost 2 first round picks also. North are so desperate I think they will pay just about anything at this point.

I would actually rather offer Dusty 1.8m if it meant Tiger could not match. Sure it's way over the top financially, but Dusty is still the better player (although it is close). Keeping both our first rounders would be amazing.

Giving up a bucket load of cash + 2 picks is a big frigging deal. Makes me far more nervous than just giving up heaps of cash. Let's not do a Hawthorn, we don't have 4 flags in 10 to justify our stupidity.
 

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Apparently we're into Zac Jones and could offer him more midfield minutes...

I haven't watched much of him but he seems just ok, powerful athlete not always great with disposal..

Wouldn't Dev Smith be around the same trade value?? And a significantly better player?? Or Hopper?? I wanted Hopper after his final vs Sydney last year, shades of a young J Selwood
I think Dev Smith is off to Geelong
 
Are North crazy? You don't pay that much for one player when you've just started your rebuild.

Yeah, it makes no sense to me. But I'm not sure they have even admitted they are in a rebuild yet. They seem to be in a similar space to where we were in 2011 in that they are hoping they can just paper over the cracks and keep their flag window open.
 
Yeah, it makes no sense to me. But I'm not sure they have even admitted they are in a rebuild yet. They seem to be in a similar space to where we were in 2011 in that they are hoping they can just paper over the cracks and keep their flag window open.
Maybe they're hoping to keep the window pryed open with a couple of chopsticks?
 
I'm surprised the off field activity of a number of dogs players is not attracting more attention. Theyre pretty open about going on 2 day benders after the game etc.

#sobrave.
#mediadarlings
 
Yeah, it makes no sense to me. But I'm not sure they have even admitted they are in a rebuild yet. They seem to be in a similar space to where we were in 2011 in that they are hoping they can just paper over the cracks and keep their flag window open.
I'm not a fan as you know but I think north have a bit more upside than some realise.

They have a few that are speculative but with high upside that we haven't seen a lot of yet including some height. McKay, durdin, pruess, vickers- willis, Simpkin, Ahern, Clarke, dumont and they have a few father sons in the next two years.

A lot of what ifs but compare it to what's at sandy.
 
I'm not a fan as you know but I think north have a bit more upside than some realise.

They have a few that are speculative but with high upside that we haven't seen a lot of yet including some height. McKay, durdin, pruess, vickers- willis, Simpkin, Ahern, Clarke, dumont and they have a few father sons in the next two years.

A lot of what ifs but compare it to what's at sandy.
In my ladder predictor it comes down to us or them for 8th. They have a fairly easy run from here which will exaggerate where their list truly is at. If nothing else, making finals this year will absolve the club of the farce that was cutting 4 champs from the list.
 
AFL Website has Jamie Cox on SEN stating that we are into Dustin Martin and Josh Kelly and not in to Fyfe. Could be all smoke and mirrors though. I don't know what to believe!
Cox didn't state anything of the kind in that article:

"However, when asked about Richmond's Dustin Martin and Giant Josh Kelly, Cox acknowledged the Saints were interested in luring established talent to the club."

"We've been out there publicly to say that this stage of our list development that we'll happily enter these discussions, but (negotiations) won't play out publicly," he said.

I take that 2nd paragraph as a generalisation about "established talent". He didn't confirm or deny that we're into Dusty.
 
Yes to Dusty? Excellent for on-field but the media will brutalise us with any indiscretions he has.

Have any of you ever seen him at kids footy clinics? He doesn't do autographs, he doesn't smile or interact, he stays on his phone most the time. I would be happy to have him the but the club have to be smart because he is not a personable guy. Richmond supporters (kids) told me themselves they hope he leaves and turned on him after he gave them donuts at a recent footy clinic.

Personally I don't care what he does, just don't send him out to do the whole kids stuff... I just know that this doesn't get covered much now that he is at Richmond but you can bet your ass that it will be all over the radios and papers if he comes to the red, white and black.
 
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