Bertie Beetle or gtfoWhat Showbags did you get at the Show?
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Bertie Beetle or gtfoWhat Showbags did you get at the Show?
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Doesn’t make much difference to us as it seems we are being idiots and trading 6 for hill. MadnessYou can nearly guarantee Melb trades their pick 3 now for GWS 2 x firsts. Gws get a gun + Greene for way unders. Thanks AFL.
It hasn't happened yet nothing to feel screwed over about yetThat fact that Dal couldn't bite his tongue and openly agreed/argued that we were being screwed with the Jack Steven trade tells me we have every right to feel screwed over.
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Aren’t we screwing ourself. We are the ones trading him.
Pretty much what I said about a week ago. Still think we might get slightly more for jack. I actually think bruce is vital to our set up and that is why I’m pi**ed off losing for around that pick. Choice of Bruce or Jones which seems a straight swap. I’m going bruce every time. We are going to be upset with jones kicking. It’s very ordinary
not that simple due to the circumstances and you know that.Aren’t we screwing ourself. We are the ones trading him.
I think George has the correct percentage. We do have a choice on accepting a certain pick number. Agree about no choice in losing him.Seems like we have no choice. I wonder if there is any chance at all of Jack staying?
MadnessDoesn’t make much difference to us as it seems we are being idiots and trading 6 for hill. Madness
I always get a good laugh about how these paid experts still don't understand how the Carlisle trade worked four years later.It hasn't happened yet nothing to feel screwed over about yet
We all say how s**t T. Wallet and the likes are and that they know nothing and then listen to them and complain about what they say
he was poor up until when we sacked Richo but had a really positive last 6 rounds imo, started to use the ball better and kicked a few goalsAnyone who thinks Seb Ross had a great season is incompetent in my book.
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I agree with that but if king doesn’t come on it’s a bloody slow upgrade.Yup I’m not a fan of Jones but I think he takes Newnes’ spot in the 22 so at least he’s an upgrade.
Hill for Acres is also an upgrade.
Ryder for Bruce we downgrade our forward line however it’s an upgrade in our ruck department. Not to get into a debate regarding Marshall playing more minutes forward but it could be a master stroke. If Marshall adds forward craft to his rucking ability he is a genuine star of the competition.
Gray for Parker or Long is an upgrade.
With the suggested trades we are making incremental improvement.
Add 20 games out of Hanneberry & the potential of Max King & we are seeing more significant improvement.
At least we are doing something & trying to improve. That’s better than standing still after 8 shizen years.
For one we has so much money we could probably buy all the Hills in the league and still have enough for a big fish next year, and with Bruce it doesn't matter how the supporters rate him when a club approaches us about a contracted player we could start the negotiations at 3 first rounders if we feel like it. You never start with what they are actually worth.Reading between the lines the club is motivated to move Jack Steven on. Yes, the club is stating that Jack’s health is priority number one however I suspect this is also a way of trading him & managing supporter backlash. Unfortunately the Cats are standing by for the scraps & will get Steven for a late pick. Without looking at their draft hand I think it will be around pick 60.
As a Saints supporter it’s easy to get outraged by this scenario however if you dig deeper you will see that moving Jack on is mutually beneficial.
Hill will be a nice acquisition however listening to Bell & knowing his form line when it comes to trades we will pay top dollar. Pick 6 in a straight swap is about as good as it will get.
Bruce is severely overrated by our supporters. He’s drastically inconsistent & is worth around pick 25 IMO. Anything more is a win. However I think we’ll get slightly overs seeing as he’s contracted so a pick around 25 plus an upgrade from 60 to 40 or thereabouts would be a good outcome.
Jones for a pick in the 20-30 vicinity is fair. We have a good trade relationship with the Swans so I think this trade gets done seamlessly.
Ryder is a fee hit. Pick 60 plus should get it done. Although a Gray/Ryder 2for1 might make it pick 40 for the two.
Nothing much in the media on Newnes, McKenzie or Acres however they look to be expendable.
Not rebuild 2.0 but it looks like a significant reboot with a focus on trading 15-25 rated players on our list.
A lot of trades & pick swaps to get the deals over the line.
Not by best and fairest voteshe was poor up until when we sacked Richo but had a really positive last 6 rounds imo, started to use the ball better and kicked a few goals
YepI always get a good laugh about how these paid experts still don't understand how the Carlisle trade worked four years later.
It's great entertainment value.
Very madMadness
he picked up most of his brownlow votes in the final 6 roundsNot by best and fairest votes
You know what I love. People on here underselling our players.
There are calls that suggest J Daniher will command 2 first round draft picks. 2 first round draft picks for a bloke that has barely played in 2 years.
And yet the same pundits suggest that Bruce is only worth a 2nd or 3rd rounder.
Why would the Dogs put a lucrative 4 year deal in front of him if he was s**t?
Let's put it like this if Keath is worth Pick 13 then Bruce is the same if not more.
Bruce is contracted and as such if the Dogs want him then they need to pay for him.
I’m talking about our clubs voteshe picked up most of his brownlow votes in the final 6 rounds
That's cute... so you just have absolutely nothing of value to add.
Wonder if we are still trying to find a new home for JakeMitch Cleary just conformed that we are very keen on Douglas Howard
I think George has the correct percentage. We do have a choice on accepting a certain pick number. Agree about no choice in losing him.