Unofficial Preview 2020 Draft Discussion

[TylerDurden]

North want a tall desperately, and Swans want DGB as well, Hollands will be there

Unless Crouch compo.

 

[BIGHAWK23]

Unless Crouch compo.

1.Mcdonald- Ad
2.JUH
3. Phillips -AD
4. Campbell Bid - SYD
Thilthorpe - NM
5.Hollands- Hawks

 

[BIGHAWK23]

We either get Hollands or Phillips
Happy with either

 

[Wingnut19]

1.Mcdonald- Ad
2.JUH
3. Phillips -AD
4. Campbell Bid - SYD
Thilthorpe - NM
5.Hollands- Hawks

Yep, I actually don't think it will be a bad thing if crows get pick 2. it will give them a free hit to bid on Campbell or North will miss on who they want and will bid on campbell. Will keep Sydney honest. Regardless if a bid comes or not you could throw a blanket over DGB, Phillips, Mcdonald, Hollands and Thilphorpe. We will end up with one even if crows get pick 2.

 

[toomanysquibs]

Running backwards wouldn't likely relate to flawed motor mechanics, since moving backwards is the action least likely to illicit a flawed or modified pattern of movement.

Even with people who are highly dysfunctional in adulthood in terms of body mechanics, and even those suffering pain from it, can still walk backwards with a much higher level of fluency than they can moving forwards.

When you're a kid, you're moving with the most freedom you likely will in your life. The nervous system remembers those patterns really well, unless it has to navigate an injury or restriction at some point.

Backwards movement - particularly walking or running, seems to be the most immune from this since it's not repeated anywhere near as often. Your nervous system seems to hold it better.

Sometimes it's the ligaments themselves that are the issue. I'm not saying it is here, but Collingwood had a gun in their CHF (Leigh?) Walker back in the 90s. His body was just held together with elastic bands, and he was constantly injured till he was forced to retire.

I don't know if that's the case with Hollands, but to do an ACL at such a young age in these circumstances seems at odds with the likelihood he'll continue to develop the way he would have without doing it.

I hope that's wrong. But we have form on this.

Not running mechanics per se, but the moment his ACL went was the moment his knee could no longer tolerate the way it was being loaded/had been loaded for how ever long prior (possibly years). Just to clarify, by "mechanics" I mean the way his legs move in a broader sense. He'd move similarly when he squats, runs, jumps, lands, twists, hops, rides a bike etc. Whether it was running forwards or backwards, stiff ankles are still stiff ankles and hip dysfunction is still hip dysfunction if that makes sense?

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[HAWKSBESTEVA]

Holland’s will be a jet for sure , dusty mould mid/fwd. if we end up with him it’s the best result. Crows getting pick 2 lessens the likelihood of that. I think they’d take him and McDonald. Hopefully they don’t get pick 2

 

[hfc70]

Unless Crouch compo.

Nup. Can’t see Crows getting Pick 2.....end of 1st round at best

 

[Dewwwww]

Holland’s will be a jet for sure , dusty mould mid/fwd. if we end up with him it’s the best result. Crows getting pick 2 lessens the likelihood of that. I think they’d take him and McDonald. Hopefully they don’t get pick 2

They will take McDonald / Thilthorpe if they have 1/2

 

[daniel23]

New ep of road to the draft is up featuring dgb , they also talk about who we might take.

 

[HAWKSBESTEVA]

They will take McDonald / Thilthorpe if they have 1/2

If they do then norf probably take Holland’s.

 

[Dewwwww]

If they do then norf probably take Holland’s.

Not exactly the way I see it panning out

Holland’s will fall to 5 without a doubt

 

[HAWKSBESTEVA]

Not exactly the way I see it panning out

Holland’s will fall to 5 without a doubt

Hopefully you are right, bloke is a gun. So much upside.

 

[HAWKSBESTEVA]

Wish the draft was sooner! Sucks it’s so late

 

[Dewwwww]

Hopefully you are right, bloke is a gun. So much upside.

Thilthorpe isn’t a pick 1. If you have 1+2 though that’s McDonald and Thilthorpe (Adelaide boy) and you’re set with key forwards for The next 12 years. North will grab Phillips and Sydney DGB which will leave Holland’s for us

 

[westhawk]

Talking 650k a year on AFL tonight for Crouch, that won’t be enough for pick 2

 

[Mojo]

Thilthorpe isn’t a pick 1. If you have 1+2 though that’s McDonald and Thilthorpe (Adelaide boy) and you’re set with key forwards for The next 12 years. North will grab Phillips and Sydney DGB which will leave Holland’s for us

Sweet, I'll let the boys know.

 

[Rioli magic]

Just to be clear - Joel Selwood

14

Joel Selwood

Age

36

Ht

183cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

24.9

5star

K

12.5

5star

HB

12.5

5star

M

3.6

4star

T

5.3

5star

CL

5.7

5star

D

18.3

4star

K

9.7

4star

HB

8.6

4star

M

2.4

3star

T

4.0

5star

CL

4.0

5star

D

23.4

5star

K

13.2

5star

HB

10.2

5star

M

3.6

4star

T

4.8

5star

CL

5.8

5star

DID NOT do his ACL as a junior. Not exactly sure what his knee injury was and has only been described as a "serious knee injury" At the time I remember it being meniscus damage or similiar. The thing with Selwood is that Geelong somehow sourced a second medical report which clearly stated that his knee injury WASN'T career threatening or serious. No one else saw this report so well played Geelong

I also point you towards Ryan Burton

3

Ryan Burton

Age

27

Ht

191cm

Wt

92kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.5

5star

K

12.1

4star

HB

6.3

4star

M

4.6

4star

T

2.1

4star

MG

277.3

4star

D

16.8

4star

K

12.3

5star

HB

4.5

3star

M

5.0

5star

T

1.0

2star

MG

277.3

4star

D

13.4

4star

K

9.0

4star

HB

4.4

4star

M

4.8

5star

T

2.2

4star

. Wasn't an ACL but he did break his leg and suffered significant ligament and joint damage. Burton can play but we now see him constantly breaking down with soft tissue injuries - if he is still playing AFL at age 30 I'll go he (probably one of the main reason's we shipped him off to Port with out first and second pick)

Correct - Selwood did not do an ACL, he had the same issue that Andrew Walker

Andrew Walker

Age

38

Ht

190cm

Wt

89kg

Pos.

D/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.0

4star

K

11.4

4star

HB

5.6

4star

M

4.4

4star

T

2.1

4star

MG

198.2

3star

No current season stats available

D

13.4

4star

K

8.8

4star

HB

4.6

4star

M

4.2

4star

T

2.2

4star

from Carlton had if anyone wants to look it up. (I think it was to do with the cartilage?)

What did happen was Walker went through the ops a year before Selwood, and Selwood then used the same Surgeon, I believe connected through Vic Country. Basically Walker was the “guinea pig” and Selwood benefitted a bit from being second in line knowing more about what they were dealing with and what worked and what didn’t.

Walker unfortunately had chronic knee issues throughout his career and still does (it’s what eventually ended his career), while Selwood has been more fortunate with his knee since.

 

[Billyc]

Even if saints were dumb enough to pay the money usually required to trigger band 1 compo (which they won’t), the AFL won’t do it. It would be optically awful for Crows to get pick 2 for Cocaine Crouch in same period as Giants getting inferior compo for Jeremy Cameron

5

Jeremy Cameron

Age

31

Ht

196cm

Wt

94kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.5

3star

K

9.0

3star

HB

3.4

3star

M

5.4

5star

T

1.6

4star

G

2.6

5star

D

10.0

3star

K

7.1

3star

HB

2.9

2star

M

4.6

4star

T

2.0

3star

G

1.9

5star

D

8.2

2star

K

5.0

2star

HB

3.2

3star

M

4.6

5star

T

2.4

4star

G

2.0

5star

. Won’t happen. Relax

 

[hfc70]

HOLLANDS

That’s how you spell it !

If we happen to recruit him, let’s get his name right at least. Auto correct no excuse. Does my head in.

 

[matsta1975]

Thilthorpe isn’t a pick 1. If you have 1+2 though that’s McDonald and Thilthorpe (Adelaide boy) and you’re set with key forwards for The next 12 years. North will grab Phillips and Sydney DGB which will leave Holland’s for us

Tilthorpe is a very good kid i wouldn't be putting any knocks on him

 

[matsta1975]

Some info on Thilthorpe main issue is if body will hold up

 

[matsta1975]

Some info on Hollands for those interested

 

[HAWKSBESTEVA]

Some info on Hollands for those interested

Sounds like he is exactly what we need!!

 

[Mojo]

Sounds like he is exactly what we need!!

Swell,

I'll add it to the list...

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

HOLLANDS

That’s how you spell it !

If we happen to recruit him, let’s get his name right at least. Auto correct no excuse. Does my head in.

Good luck on this quest.