List Mgmt. 2020 Trade Thread - Part III

[Gosaints12]

Throw in Clark and we’d have almost every first round pick for the next 3 years, now that’s a rebuild

He’s another untouchable. I’m not trading any of them. That’s just my asking price.


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[StCicatriz]

He has said all year his preference was to stay. We asked him to test the waters and held off Tabling him and offer until we see what compo is. We now know. So we match and he stays.

Wasnt his preference to leave as of last week?

I think your point here is outdated now. Alot has changed since then.

 

[St Neil]

Don't think Crows will match.

If its a trade we will have to give up pick 15 which is really correct value. A lot less than what the Crows wanted. Stiff sh*t.

We won’t trade. Lethlean has indicated this in an interview last week. Free agency means FREE.

 

[triggering bro]

I think it depends if he is a RFA or not - I think if a club matches an RFA the player can't walk to the PSD. Might be wrong through.

If that's not the case then yeah I agree, take him in the draft.

Matching only closes the free agency door. He’s still out of contract & can nominate for the drafts.

 

[StCicatriz]

Saints fans need to start talking about the pre season draft a lot more with crouch.

 

[Palantine]

I'm proud of the club for not offering Crouch a ridiculous contract. Anything above 700k I would have been pretty disappointed. Most likely scenario now is Crows accept the compo and we trade 15 for 23, or Crows accept the compo and we give them Dunstan for peanuts. I don't see any other scenario happening.

Wonder if we’ve got smart with off salary earnings for players, utilising our board? $600k at 4 years to lure a gun seems low to me.


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[St Neil]

Gut feel is that they match unfortunately

Maybe we’re happy for them to match.

 

[Joffaboy]

I think it depends if he is a RFA or not - I think if a club matches an RFA the player can't walk to the PSD. Might be wrong through.

If that's not the case then yeah I agree, take him in the draft.

Think you are wrong, he is OOC, you can't be forced to sign a contract. Contract law 101. Also would contravene Corps Law on coersion, or is that still Contract Law, haven't studied it for 20 years.
Anyway if they match and he says no, they can try to force a trade, if he says no, he can nom for the national Draft like Ball with a price on is head, or the PSD with a price on his head.

If he accepts the Crow matched offer, they have to agree under offer and acceptance laws, they can't say no.

 

[triggering bro]

Who is this buttons91 campaigner that continually thumbs down my posts? I see he’s a Carlton supporter however he has a lot of Adel interests. He reminds me of that gillo campaigner who had a brain injury.

 

[sunny3193]

A question for the legal eagles:
Assuming this FA goes through without Adelaide matching, is there anything stopping St Kilda and B Crouch revising the contract at a later date?

 

[Saintos The ITK]

Any chance we match???

 

[Pardon me]

Think you are wrong, he is OOC, you can't be forced to sign a contract. Contract law 101. Also would contravene Corps Law on coersion, or is that still Contract Law, haven't studied it for 20 years.
Anyway if they match and he says no, they can try to force a trade, if he says no, he can nom for the national Draft like Ball with a price on is head, or the PSD with a price on his head.

If he accepts the Crow matched offer, they have to agree under offer and acceptance laws, they can't say no.

This is my understanding also mate, and the only teams I can think that will take on his price in the psd is north and maybe hawks?

 

[StCicatriz]

A question for the legal eagles:
Assuming this FA goes through without Adelaide matching, is there anything stopping St Kilda and B Crouch revising the contract at a later date?

Only with crouchs approval which would be unlikely

Its the problem the pies have right now. Players won't take a hair cut.

 

[stavro#4]

A question for the legal eagles:
Assuming this FA goes through without Adelaide matching, is there anything stopping St Kilda and B Crouch revising the contract at a later date?

No. But there isn’t some secret agreement here to screw Adelaide either.

It literally is as face value.

My understanding was we spent the last few days talking the frame work of a trade hence the lodgement delay.

 

[St Neil]

doubt we go for Treloar tbh, contract is huge and could hurt our chances at Bing and Taranto

Collingwood will significantly subsidise his contract. Nothing surer.

 

[Joffaboy]

Who is this buttons91 campaigner that continually thumbs down my posts? I see he’s a Carlton supporter however he has a lot of Adel interests. He reminds me of that gillo campaigner who had a brain injury.

A crows supporter pretending to be a Carlton supporter on his profile.

Thought ironic liking and down voting was a cardable offence. George ?

 

[Mr Pickles]

Who is this buttons91 campaigner that continually thumbs down my posts? I see he’s a Carlton supporter however he has a lot of Adel interests. He reminds me of that gillo campaigner who had a brain injury.

Ole mate is clearly an Adelaide supporter on a burner account.

 

[Captain Paddy]

Collingwood will significantly subsidise his contract. Nothing surer.

Haven’t they said they’ll only chip in for the first year? That means 4 more years at like $900l?

 

[Groater]

My understanding was we spent the last few days talking the frame work of a trade hence the lodgement delay.

I hope we don't trade for him

 

[St Kilda Death]

Give a 5 year 600k contract to a player Who doesn’t want to stay....
Who you made it clear you didn’t want......
(Because he will be retired by the next time you make finals)

 

[sunny3193]

No. But there isn’t some secret agreement here to screw Adelaide either.

It literally is as face value.

My understanding was we spent the last few days talking the frame work of a trade hence the lodgement delay.

Excellent, so there is an opportunity for upside should B Crouch warrant it.
It didn’t sit right to think that the contract is forever limited and could not be revised.

 

[triggering bro]

Ole mate is clearly an Adelaide supporter on a burner account.

I must admit I went & likes a bunch of historic Crows posts on the D&T board but no chance I would go to their private board. George can you please get rid of that buttons91 bloke?

 

[St Neil]

Lethlean said on SEN it was always the plan to get Crouch FA, implying no trade

Turning the screws.

Adelaide are stuffed!!!!

 

[jwikked]

We all saw what the Adelaide powerstance did for them in the Grand Final, lets see what their powerstance does for them on Crouch lol. Good luck to them

 

[Joffaboy]

I hope we don't trade for him

Don't mind if they don't match and we get a better outcome for everyone, but if they match, they burn pick 23. If they are so stupidly bloody minded to do that, well match, Brad can stay and we miss out. So sad, too bad.

Hope Crouches management absolutely has told the Crows that if they match he will accept.