List Mgmt. 2021 Draft and Trade Hypotheticals
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Chaisa
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Tom Brown feels exactly like the mistake we made with Ling.
If we have upgraded 3 rookies, it means that we are not necessarily required to take 3 selections in the draft. Everyone keeps mentioning that we will take Paddy and Anderson in the rookie draft but we have already guaranteed that we will resign Taylor as a rookie.
LukeParkerno1
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He is at least rated in the top 25 or so that’s a positive lol
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I wouldn't worry. Twomey is notoriously bad at prediction regarding picks for the Swans. Mainly because we play our cards very close come draft time and there are very few if any leaks. That's not his fault by the way, but a lot of the so called 'predictions' are based on sources they have.
Twomey's not the only one without a clue - this article by SEN says we're looking at McCartin - which is no secret. But other than that you'll notice that unlike other teams in the article, they don't name a single other player.
The mystery regarding our pick 70 though remains unsolved.
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This is a case of working backwards as we don't have all information as the club doesn't release it and the AFL doesn't publish it so we need to make safe assumptions (McLean, Wicks and Sheather signed for 2 years so have been promoted to the senior list, Taylor is included in the count of Rookie Listed players already and will be taken with a dead rookie draft pick, Bell is included on the senior list despite no announcement and I have given both options depending on Clarke's status) so we can guess what our senior list size likely will be and what rookie list spaces we likely will have to give the amount of "live" picks that we will have.
Taking everything into account we have 3 senior list spots left so 3 "live" picks in the draft and either 2 or 3 rookie list spots for "live" rookie draft picks which will be used on Paddy and Anderson if they are still available.
I wouldn't worry. Twomey is notoriously bad at prediction regarding picks for the Swans. Mainly because we play our cards very close come draft time and there are very few if any leaks. That's not his fault by the way, but a lot of the so called 'predictions' are based on sources they have.
Twomey's not the only one without a clue - this article by SEN says we're looking at McCartin - which is no secret. But other than that you'll notice that unlike other teams in the article, they don't name a single other player.
The mystery regarding our pick 70 though remains unsolved.
What your club must target in the 2021 National Draft
What does your club need at this year’s AFL National Draft?
Also the later in the draft the harder it is to predict. Twomey is usually very good with the top 10 but after that it begins to unravel as all it takes is one club to do something unexpected and all his predictions are suddenly off.
Last year it actually happened early with North picking Phillips though usually he is very good with the top 10.
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I wouldn't worry. Twomey is notoriously bad at prediction regarding picks for the Swans. Mainly because we play our cards very close come draft time and there are very few if any leaks. That's not his fault by the way, but a lot of the so called 'predictions' are based on sources they have.
Twomey's not the only one without a clue - this article by SEN says we're looking at McCartin - which is no secret. But other than that you'll notice that unlike other teams in the article, they don't name a single other player.
The mystery regarding our pick 70 though remains unsolved.
What your club must target in the 2021 National Draft
What does your club need at this year’s AFL National Draft?
My prediction would be this...
Twomey would have no idea who we want to use with our first pick, as I doubt even we have a clear idea for what we want to use with our first pick. It's not like in recent years where we've had top five picks and the freedom to pick all but 3 or 4 players in the draft. Pick 18/19 is a range likely to be heavily populated with options we'd be willing to use our pick on. We're a bit more at the mercy of the picks before us, so we'll have to be more flexible. We'll likely have contingency plans in place for our contingency plans.
Surprised you're not rating Cunningham. He has shut down plenty in the last 2 seasons and is as consistent as. Plus he is a terrific kick. Makes very few mistakes.
Fox is handy rather than outstanding but is decent on all sizes, including smalls. He lost form and made some poor decisions towards the end of the season but was pretty good until then.
COR is a more traditional type mid sizer for sure.
The way our defence sets up I'm not sure that the traditional roles are as important as they were, except on the monsters.
If push came to shove I suspect there are a couple of guys who could convert to handy small defenders if necessary. Not that they SHOULD.
Wicks, Stephens, Sheather all are decent tacklers and quick on their feet.
I wouldn't recruit a small defender for all the tea in China. We just delisted 2.
JMac for sure but having run top 3 for years as a defender I doubt Horse will shift Lloyd to a wing. JMac, Blakey, Gulden and Campbell are all better inside 50 kicks IMO.
Don't think be knows our list very well either.I wouldn't worry. Twomey is notoriously bad at prediction regarding picks for the Swans. Mainly because we play our cards very close come draft time and there are very few if any leaks. That's not his fault by the way, but a lot of the so called 'predictions' are based on sources they have.
Twomey's not the only one without a clue - this article by SEN says we're looking at McCartin - which is no secret. But other than that you'll notice that unlike other teams in the article, they don't name a single other player.
The mystery regarding our pick 70 though remains unsolved.
What your club must target in the 2021 National Draft
What does your club need at this year’s AFL National Draft?
He's never heard of McInerney and also probably not aware we have started using Blakey on the HBF.
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There is rating and then there’s rating for a potential premiership side. Can Cunningham shut down Greene types? Look it’s not a number 1 need but if we take one I won’t be losing sleep. It will likely be a defender that could be a mid though. Not a fan but Wilmot is one option.
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Watching Knevitt's highlights I totally failed to fall in love. Looked like school footy practice games. His movement is anything but precise or powerful. His kicking looks to lack real penetration.
For sure that means we'll take him.
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Even with Phillips, I'd say Twomey was only one or two off the mark. Phillips was seen as one of the so-called "fantastic five", and he was taken at pick 3. So despite the shock of everyone that North would DARE take a mid over a forward, Phillips actually went pretty much exactly where he was expected to go.
I rather thought he was OUR Cunningham.
Sounds like picks 6 to 25 is a bit of a lottery.
Probably why we weren't bothered going backwards 4 spots in the Ladhams trade.
Probably why we weren't bothered going backwards 4 spots in the Ladhams trade.
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picks 6-76 are a bit of a lottery
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I just had a look at the 2019 draft thread, and Dylan Stephens is mentioned twice.
If you're basing your opinion of a player on whether they can shut down Toby Greene you're not going to find any good players. Toby is one of the elite of the competition, and the reason he is is that he is so tough to shut down. Wouldn't be more than 2 players in the league that could shut him down, and even then I would back Greene on a big day.
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Do you mean all but two of us do have a clue or the other way around?
Greene shares with Rampe and a few others a weird thing that he plays a lot "bigger" than he is. A small defender isn't really big enough and a mid sized defender isn't really quick enough. Very difficult match up.
LukeParkerno1
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Whilst true and I agree with you in regards to Toby, if we can improve a position we should regardless of whether it’s needed
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So long as these are best available I’m happy enough.
LukeParkerno1
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The key words being best available whoever that is take him worry about needs later.
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