List Mgmt. 2021 Draft and Trade Hypotheticals

[Ticky009]

Hi everyone, for those interested some great links plus the Big Footy Draft, Trade & Free Agency twitter as per below:

 

[Heeney2Franklin]

No Buddy's contract $ is known because we were forced to release it. Yet another act of head office malfeasance

Fitzpatrick legacy the only player in the league that was forced to reveal his wages.

 

[the hypnotoad]

Fitzpatrick legacy the only player in the league that was forced to reveal his wages.

wonder what fitzpatrick's afl salary was at the time ... anyone have any idea?
franklin, at both his clubs, brought people to games ... boosted the product ... thus helped pay whatever fitzpatrick was earning ... (or am i wrong on this? i don't profess to know the details of the finances of the afl and its senior staff)

 

[TheMase]

Reid is on 600-700k and Naismith wouldn't be on much less because we somehow rate the bloke! Must mix a mean Gatorade in the rehab group! even if it's a $1 to $1.1 million mark, that's 3 good players we have missed out on for what? Keeping two injury prone players who are no good.

If Naismith was on much more than $250k I’d be surprised.

These guys aren’t on the list and we’d be overpaying someone else more likely. Guys like Gray and Taylor on the list taking up space.

Have to pay 95% of the cap, removing these guys doesn’t necessarily make other players materialise onto our list.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

If Naismith was on much more than $250k I’d be surprised.

These guys aren’t on the list and we’d be overpaying someone else more likely. Guys like Gray and Taylor on the list taking up space.

Have to pay 95% of the cap, removing these guys doesn’t necessarily make other players materialise onto our list.

All 4 of those players should be delisted or traded at years end. Our top side is close to good enough, its the depth that's a worry. I'd rather have 3 guys on minimum and have the money to chase a top end talent. If we are putting a million on sport parts it is an issue. How and why we signed Taylor and Gray to multiple year deals is a mystery...but the worst one by far is Naismith...lets resign him whilst he's injured...good one guys! Reid is just a bad signing at the price however he was playing alright this year.

 

[anotherletdown]

Yep, look I have more of an issue of how much we are paying Reid, and then keeping Naismith on the list for goodness knows what reason. That's close to 1.5 mill we could use elsewhere.

One persons 'close' is another persons 'never in a million light years'

I could possibly imagine half that value.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

One persons 'close' is another persons 'never in a million light years'

I could possibly imagine half that value.

Whatever the figure is that money could have been used elsewhere

 

[anotherletdown]

Whatever the figure is that money could have been used elsewhere

Both structurally important. Might have overpaid a bit but clubs always do for that type.
The issue in our cap is that we effectively pay COLA due to Sydney being Sydney but there is no allowance for that via the AFL

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Both structurally important. Might have overpaid a bit but clubs always do for that type.
The issue in our cap is that we effectively pay COLA due to Sydney being Sydney but there is no allowance for that via the AFL

Naismith structurally critical for the rehab clinic or something? Reid is overpaid as decent as he’s been this year.

 

[Dan87]

For the cost Charlie Constable is the one I hope we go after. We need an inside after Kennedy goes and he would be cheap as chips.

Omg enough

Clearly need Will Brodie more

Can be as good as Kemp

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Omg enough

Clearly need Will Brodie more

Can be as good as Kemp

Would love Brodie too. It’s an area we need to address over the next year whether it be this period of the next.

 

[S120]

I wouldn't be into either Brodie or Constable personally. Brodie, imo, is severely limited skill-wise, there's a reason he can't get a regular game at Gold Coast. We all get sick of our current crop of inside midfielders not hitting targets, it'd got to another level with Brodie imo. As for Constable, I'd prefer an inside midfielder who was a little more athletic and quick. Think that type suits the game more now than a taller, lanky type like Constable.

 

[caesar88]

Considering where I was at on the whole 'we need an inside mid' debate a year ago, I sorta think we're fine in that department... someone check my pulse.

 

[Dan87]

Would love Brodie too. It’s an area we need to address over the next year whether it be this period of the next.

Not gonna happen they're average and we're not going to replace Kennedy like for like imo. Enjoy watching their careers from afar and stop the running joke.

 

[Grand Uncle Horace]

stop the running joke.

now that is mean!

 

[Dan87]

Afl integrity department launching an enquiry on how 17 clubs failed to poach Will Brodie

17

Will Brodie

Age

26

Ht

190cm

Wt

89kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

19.0

5star

K

8.2

3star

HB

10.8

5star

M

3.1

3star

T

4.9

5star

CL

4.1

5star

D

14.0

3star

K

4.0

1star

HB

10.0

5star

M

3.0

3star

T

1.0

2star

CL

3.0

4star

D

13.8

4star

K

7.4

3star

HB

6.4

4star

M

3.2

4star

T

5.4

5star

CL

2.8

5star

and Charlie Constable

33

Charlie Constable

Age

25

Ht

192cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

D/M

Career

Season

Last 5

D

21.4

5star

K

9.0

3star

HB

12.4

5star

M

4.6

4star

T

3.7

5star

No current season stats available

D

22.4

5star

K

10.0

4star

HB

12.4

5star

M

4.4

4star

T

3.4

5star

for half a decade

 

[Grand Uncle Horace]

Afl integrity department launching an enquiry on how 17 clubs failed to poach Will Brodie and Charlie Constable for half a decade

It will not be a fast moving Inquiry.

 

[Dubai Quacker]

I can believe that we are paying Parker $800k but god almighty it's shocking

For a bloke who was runner-up in the Brownlow a few years back?

Not shocking at all. Deserved.

 

[RUNVS]

It will not be a fast moving Inquiry.

The inquiry into why the Victorian clubs are not winning Grand Finals is still going and pumping ideas out on how to help the Victorian clubs more.

 

[Grand Uncle Horace]

The inquiry into why the Victorian clubs are not winning Grand Finals is still going and pumping ideas out on how to help the Victorian clubs more.

That is a permanent Committee of Inquiry.

 

[Dubai Quacker]

The inquiry into why the Victorian clubs are not winning Grand Finals is still going and pumping ideas out on how to help the Victorian clubs more.

The enquiry noted (in para 6-7 page 134) that:

“Initiatives associated with umpires Stevic and Chamberlain have failed to produce that anticipated result after initial success in 2016.
However, the recruitment of Tom Lynch did not attract the feared scrutiny of salary cap pressure and thereby duly enabled a pleasing prolongation of VFL strategic objectives”

 

[dosser]

The enquiry noted (in para 6-7 page 134) that:

“Initiatives associated with umpires Stevic and Chamberlain have failed to produce that anticipated result after initial success in 2016.
However, the recruitment of Tom Lynch did not attract the feared scrutiny of salary cap pressure and thereby duly enabled a pleasing prolongation of VFL strategic objectives”

Damn, you are writing my reports from now on.

 

[TheMase]

All 4 of those players should be delisted or traded at years end. Our top side is close to good enough, its the depth that's a worry. I'd rather have 3 guys on minimum and have the money to chase a top end talent. If we are putting a million on sport parts it is an issue. How and why we signed Taylor and Gray to multiple year deals is a mystery...but the worst one by far is Naismith...lets resign him whilst he's injured...good one guys! Reid is just a bad signing at the price however he was playing alright this year.

To trade someone has to want to come and we have to want to pay. To delist (if contracted) still costs us the same.

We have been through a period where we needed to top up the list from an experience point of view and importantly filling out our salary cap. We can’t make players come here and couldn’t carry too many kids as it would be a detriment to the development of the list.

Sorry to say but I am so very glad you’re not our list manager!!

 

[Kapers]

Whatever the figure is that money could have been used elsewhere

On who?
We haven't been able to attract talent and is one of the reasons we have a plethora of cheap players traded in.

 

[Kapers]

Imo, there's a reason Geelong aren't picking constable, and why no one is trying that hard to grab him. The pure inside mid is a dying breed and you have to be elite to be useful in that roll.

Players with burst and skill are now being utlisied ahead of the ball winners, and midfields are asking more from everyone rather than 1-3 players to winning the ball.

At least that's how I'm reading the game.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

On who?
We haven't been able to attract talent and is one of the reasons we have a plethora of cheap players traded in.

Then bank the cash and try again no point settling on average options. Makes it harder to attract someone when it’s needed.