List Mgmt. 2021 NAB National AFL Draft

[Lore]

Scuse the intrusion folks. Thought you might like to have this resource in your thread

 

[Soups]

Who knows but I feel we may finish mid-table next year if we stay health / few injuries

As such, I'm hoping our choices would be

i) If we think we won't have high enough pick to grab who we want, trade into this year
ii) Use it bundled with 2023 first for a KPF
iii) Grab a slider
iv) Use 2023 first to move up


I don't like hoping we'll lose so that we'll finish near the bottom

Obviously that list will fluctuate a lot between now and end of next year but it’s good to see we’ll at least have a shot at a tall no matter where we finish.

I have been pretty vocal about keeping our first next year and this doesn’t change for me. I think we’ll be bottom 4 and I think the club has to go in with the same mindset regarding the pick. It’s too valuable for this rebuild.

While we are getting this Nick this year, there is an element of risk picking a player that we like who hasn’t played much footy over the last 2 years. I rather select someone next year that will at least have a solid year behind him (hopefully)

 

[Magpie_96]

Think we need to prioritize drafting Will Elliott. Think of the confusion we could create by putting Will Kelly, Jamie Elliott, Will Hoskin-Elliott and Will Elliott on the park at the same time…

Lol beat me to it was just about to mention this, What’s even better is that he is a key Forward so actually feels a list need for us and comes from The Chargers which we love to recruit from lol.

 

[partypie]

Just thought I'd drop this over here as it's probably more relevant to the draft now than the Trade / FA period (originally posted in Mason Cox

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Mason Cox

Age

33

Ht

211cm

Wt

110kg

Pos.

F/R

Career

Season

Last 5

D

8.7

2star

K

5.2

2star

HB

3.5

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.6

4star

G

1.2

4star

D

6.0

1star

K

3.0

1star

HB

3.0

2star

M

2.3

2star

T

0.3

1star

G

1.0

4star

D

9.0

3star

K

5.4

2star

HB

3.6

3star

M

2.6

3star

T

2.4

4star

G

1.8

5star

thread):

Looking at our list management going into the draft, right now we have 35 senior listed players (plus 5-6 Cat A rookies depending on where Keane sits), so with 6 point-carrying picks for bid matching we need to get down to at least 32 senior listed players + 4 Cat A rookies (open rookie spots are necessary to open up the extra 2 senior list spots), which could be done as follows:

A) Delisting Thomas, Madgen^, Rantall* gets us down to 32 senior listed players

^ promise to pick up again with late ND pick (if still required), could also be Sier instead of Madgen
* promise to pick up again with late ND pick or rookie draft (if still required)

B) Delisting Chugg, moving Keane to Cat B rookie list (if he's not already there) gets us down to 4 Cat A rookies, meaning we now have 6 senior list spots open come the day of the national draft.

C) If we need to open up another senior list spot then either delist Cox or Sier (or Madgen) with a promise to pick them up again, or try to get someone like Murphy to agree to rip up his current deal (1 year remaining) and be delisted with an undertaking to pick him up again in the ND or rookie draft (we could extend him for a further year in the process as a carrot).

There are of some contradictory (and perplexing) reports around re-signing Chugg which would impact on the strategy above, but this series of moves would put us in a safer place in terms of matching the Daicos bid going forwards.

 

[Chrispiesssss]

I’d love us to draft 2 key position players in this draft.

A long term ruck and KPD.

 

[TradeDraft]

I’d love us to draft 2 key position players in this draft.

A long term ruck and KPD.

Luckly you can find Ruck and KPD later in the Draft and even in the Rookie List

 

[Harry O]

Interesting that Wrighty said today in his media conference that they are looking to take 3 or 4 picks in this National Draft. Either Daicos plus 2 or Daicos plus 3

 

[Soups]

Interesting that Wrighty said today in his media conference that they are looking to take 3 or 4 picks in this National Draft. Either Daicos plus 2 or Daicos plus 3

I wonder if that’s factoring in Dib as well?

 

[Apex36]

I wonder if that’s factoring in Dib as well?

I’d say yes. Reckon Daicos, attempt to trade in to second round for a good prospect, get Dib, potentially grab a slider from high on our board late.

 

[JB007]

I wonder if that’s factoring in Dib as well?

The Club hasn’t given Dibs any indication about drafting him yet Soups.

Thomas retiring might mean it is a fait accompli now.

I hope you’re well mate.

 

[piemad1]

Early look into next year from Ed.

I’ll be watching Lemmey with a lot of interest next year. I think we’ll need a top 3 pick.

Will Elliot, oakleigh chargers. Hine will be frothing already.

 

[magpies42]

High risk and high reward picks is what we should target with our poor draft hand. 3-4 players is what GW is after, I suspect it will be dependent on whether Zbrandner is available in the PSD.

 

[gouki88]

Think we need to prioritize drafting Will Elliott. Think of the confusion we could create by putting Will Kelly, Jamie Elliott, Will Hoskin-Elliott and Will Elliott on the park at the same time…

Will Jamie still go by Billy then? Even more confusion!

 

[pugsville]

I’d love us to draft 2 key position players in this draft.

A long term ruck and KPD.

De-listed Free Agents.

Sam Skinner
Schlenenog

 

[List Choker]

If by some miracle we get a late 2nd or early 3rd round pick this guy would be a great pick-up looks to have a lot of upside.


#28 Mitchell Knevitt

Geelong Falcons/Vic Country | Inside Midfielder
08/01/2003 | 193cm | 81kg
September Ranking: #27

Snapshot:

A big-bodied midfielder with great size and reach, Knevitt dominates at the coalface and impacts around the ground with his strong overhead marking, a feature also sighted up forward. One who was marked by his teammates as one to watch during preseason, Knevitt has taken full advantage of finally getting the opportunity to impress with some outstanding form in 2021. The 193cm midfielder provides range and size which proves difficult to combat at the coalface, as he digs in to win contested ball and stands up in tackles while dishing it out. The Geelong Falcons product is also developing his outside game and is athletically sound, getting to more contests around the ground and making an impact with his contested marking. He fits the modern day midfielder-forward prototype given his built and ability, with the performances to match his potential now coming to the fore.

Last month:

Knevitt is one of the many rising Victorians who hit their stride before the latest lockdown, but has not since had the opportunity to build on that form. He did participate in the Country combine and produced some more terrific results, coming third in the 2km time trial at 6:18.

 

[Soups]

If by some miracle we get a late 2nd or early 3rd round pick this guy would be a great pick-up looks to have a lot of upside.


#28 Mitchell Knevitt

Geelong Falcons/Vic Country | Inside Midfielder
08/01/2003 | 193cm | 81kg
September Ranking: #27

Snapshot:

A big-bodied midfielder with great size and reach, Knevitt dominates at the coalface and impacts around the ground with his strong overhead marking, a feature also sighted up forward. One who was marked by his teammates as one to watch during preseason, Knevitt has taken full advantage of finally getting the opportunity to impress with some outstanding form in 2021. The 193cm midfielder provides range and size which proves difficult to combat at the coalface, as he digs in to win contested ball and stands up in tackles while dishing it out. The Geelong Falcons product is also developing his outside game and is athletically sound, getting to more contests around the ground and making an impact with his contested marking. He fits the modern day midfielder-forward prototype given his built and ability, with the performances to match his potential now coming to the fore.

Last month:

Knevitt is one of the many rising Victorians who hit their stride before the latest lockdown, but has not since had the opportunity to build on that form. He did participate in the Country combine and produced some more terrific results, coming third in the 2km time trial at 6:18.

Also ran a very quick 20m sprint last week.

 

[unplugged]

Phantoms are so hard when there's live trading etc

 

[PyrrhicVic]

Early look into next year from Ed.

I’ll be watching Lemmey with a lot of interest next year. I think we’ll need a top 3 pick.

Jeez, absolutely loaded with key forwards. Great news, we won't have to tank to get one.

 

[Hotpiescoldbeers]

Will Elliot, oakleigh chargers. Hine will be frothing already.

but is he versatile with a basketball background?

 

[Soups]

Jeez, absolutely loaded with key forwards. Great news, we won't have to tank to get one.

Even if half of them drop off I think it shows how vital a second round pick will be next year. I would really love us to pick up a KF and a KB.

 

[jonbe54]

but is he versatile with a basketball background?

Just so long as he doesn't regurgitate the same stale supposed humour at every opportunity he will be refreshing.

 

[gouki88]

Just so long as he doesn't regurgitate the same stale supposed humour at every opportunity he will be refreshing.

Who is this even supposed to be a dig at?

 

[Robroy22]

Also ran a very quick 20m sprint last week.

Think he'll go early twenties atm....

 

[WinstonWolfe]

Early look into next year from Ed.

I’ll be watching Lemmey with a lot of interest next year. I think we’ll need a top 3 pick.

I'm assuming Ashcroft is a brisbane father-son?
If so, I wonder if we could try and get their pick 18 for our pick 27 + future 3rd round pick.

 

[hollyfasolo]

regarding our list, do i have it correct in that we have

2 senior list spots and 3 rookie spots? - given the recent delistings and trades

Name	Type	#	DOB	Age	Height	Weight	Gm	SOO	Recruited from
Scott Pendlebury	Mid-Tall	10	7 Jan, 1988	33 y 279 d	191 cm	90 kg	333	VIC	Gippsland Power	1
Jeremy Howe	Def-Tall-Key	38	29 Jun, 1990	31 y 106 d	190 cm	86 kg	195	TAS	Hobart	2
Jordan Roughead	Def-Tall-Key	23	3 Nov, 1990	30 y 344 d	200 cm	101 kg	199	VIC	North Ballarat Rebels	3
Steele Sidebottom	Mid-Med	22	2 Jan, 1991	30 y 284 d	184 cm	85 kg	263	VIC	Murray Bushrangers	4
Jamie Elliott	Fwd-Smal-Gen	5	21 Aug, 1992	29 y 53 d	178 cm	81 kg	136	VIC	Murray Bushrangers	5
Brody Mihocek	Fwd-Tall-Key	41	4 Feb, 1993	28 y 251 d	192 cm	97 kg	79	TAS	Burnie	6
Will Hoskin-Elliott	Fwd-Tall-Gen	32	2 Sep, 1993	28 y 41 d	186 cm	82 kg	157	VIC	Western Jets	7
Taylor Adams	Mid-Med	13	20 Sep, 1993	28 y 23 d	181 cm	83 kg	165	VIC	Geelong Falcons	8
Jack Crisp	Mid-Tall	25	2 Oct, 1993	28 y 11 d	190 cm	90 kg	175	VIC	Murray Bushrangers	9
Brodie Grundy	Ruck-Tall	4	15 Apr, 1994	27 y 181 d	203 cm	100 kg	171	SA	Sturt	10
Darcy Cameron	Util-Tall	14	18 Jul, 1995	26 y 87 d	205 cm	103 kg	29	WA	Claremont	11
Darcy Moore	Def-Tall-Key	30	25 Jan, 1996	25 y 261 d	203 cm	100 kg	102	VIC	Oakleigh Chargers	12
Jordan De Goey	Fwd-Med-Gen	2	15 Mar, 1996	25 y 212 d	188 cm	92 kg	118	VIC	Oakleigh Chargers	13
Brayden Maynard	Def-Med-Gen	37	20 Sep, 1996	25 y 23 d	189 cm	90 kg	138	VIC	Sandringham Dragons	14
John Noble	Def-Med-Gen	9	25 Mar, 1997	24 y 202 d	180 cm	72 kg	44	SA	West Adelaide	15
Tom Wilson	Util-Tall	12	24 Jun, 1997	24 y 111 d	187 cm	68 kg	4	VIC	Sydney King	16
Callum Brown	Mid-Smal	17	27 Apr, 1998	23 y 169 d	178 cm	77 kg	63	VIC	Eastern Ranges	17
Patrick Lipinski	Fwd-Med-Gen	27	17 Jul, 1998	23 y 88 d	187 cm	84 kg	56	VIC	Northern Knights	18
Josh Daicos	Fwd-Smal-Gen	7	26 Nov, 1998	22 y 321 d	178 cm	76 kg	52	VIC	Oakleigh Chargers	19
Nathan Kreuger	Fwd-Tall-Key	15	25 Jun, 1999	22 y 110 d	196 cm	88 kg	2	SA	South Adelaide	20
Tyler Brown	Mid-Med	6	9 Dec, 1999	21 y 308 d	188 cm	77 kg	15	VIC	Eastern Ranges	21
Nathan Murphy	Util-Med	28	15 Dec, 1999	21 y 302 d	190 cm	85 kg	15	VIC	Sandringham Dragons	22
Isaac Quaynor	Def-Smal-Gen	3	15 Jan, 2000	21 y 271 d	180 cm	83 kg	34	VIC	Oakleigh Chargers	23
Mark Keane	Fwd-Tall-Key	11	17 Mar, 2000	21 y 210 d	194 cm	92 kg	5	N/A	County Cork	24
Will Kelly	Def-Tall-Key	20	16 Aug, 2000	21 y 58 d	194 cm	84 kg	3	VIC	Oakleigh Chargers	25
Trent Bianco	Util-Med	8	20 Jan, 2001	20 y 266 d	178 cm	70 kg	11	VIC	Oakleigh Chargers	26
Beau McCreery	Fwd-Med-Gen	31	19 Apr, 2001	20 y 177 d	186 cm	80 kg	11	SA	South Adelaide	27
Trey Ruscoe	Def-Tall-Key	21	3 Nov, 2001	19 y 344 d	190 cm	90 kg	13	WA	East Fremantle	28
Finlay Macrae	Mid-Med	18	13 Mar, 2002	19 y 214 d	186 cm	78 kg	9	VIC	Oakleigh Chargers	29
Liam McMahon	Fwd-Tall-Key	29	2 May, 2002	19 y 164 d	194 cm	80 kg		VIC	Northern Knights	30
Oliver Henry	Fwd-Med-Gen	35	29 Jul, 2002	19 y 76 d	186 cm	72 kg	10	VIC	Geelong Falcons	31
Caleb Poulter	Mid-Tall	27	12 Oct, 2002	19 y 1 d	192 cm	79 kg	11	SA	Woodville-West Torrens	32
Jack Ginnivan	Fwd-Med-Gen	33	9 Dec, 2002	18 y 308 d	183 cm	77 kg	5	VIC	Bendigo Pioneers	33
Reef McInnes	Mid-Tall	26	12 Dec, 2002	18 y 305 d	193 cm	86 kg		VIC	Oakleigh Chargers	34
Nick Daicos	Mid-Med		3 Jan, 2003							35
										36
Mason Cox	Fwd-Tall-Key	46	14 Mar, 1991	30 y 213 d	211 cm	105 kg	75	N/A	Oklahoma State	37
Jack Madgen	Def-Tall-Key	44	25 Apr, 1993	28 y 171 d	192 cm	98 kg	39	SA	Barossa District	38
Name	Type	#	DOB	Age	Height	Weight	Gm	SOO	Recruited from
Isaac Chugg	Util-Med	34	26 Feb, 2002	19 y 229 d	180 cm	81 kg		TAS	Launceston	39
Aiden Begg	Ruck-Tall		8 Oct, 2002	19 y 5 d	197 cm	87 kg		VIC	Eastern Ranges	40
Ash Johnson	Fwd-Tall-Key		6 Oct, 1997	24 y 7 d	193 cm	85 kg		SA	Sturt	41
Empty										42
Empty										43
Empty										44

 

[Jen2310]

regarding our list, do i have it correct in that we have

2 senior list spots and 3 rookie spots? - given the recent delistings and trades

Name	Type	#	DOB	Age	Height	Weight	Gm	SOO	Recruited from
Scott Pendlebury	Mid-Tall	10	7 Jan, 1988	33 y 279 d	191 cm	90 kg	333	VIC	Gippsland Power	1
Jeremy Howe	Def-Tall-Key	38	29 Jun, 1990	31 y 106 d	190 cm	86 kg	195	TAS	Hobart	2
Jordan Roughead	Def-Tall-Key	23	3 Nov, 1990	30 y 344 d	200 cm	101 kg	199	VIC	North Ballarat Rebels	3
Steele Sidebottom	Mid-Med	22	2 Jan, 1991	30 y 284 d	184 cm	85 kg	263	VIC	Murray Bushrangers	4
Jamie Elliott	Fwd-Smal-Gen	5	21 Aug, 1992	29 y 53 d	178 cm	81 kg	136	VIC	Murray Bushrangers	5
Brody Mihocek	Fwd-Tall-Key	41	4 Feb, 1993	28 y 251 d	192 cm	97 kg	79	TAS	Burnie	6
Will Hoskin-Elliott	Fwd-Tall-Gen	32	2 Sep, 1993	28 y 41 d	186 cm	82 kg	157	VIC	Western Jets	7
Taylor Adams	Mid-Med	13	20 Sep, 1993	28 y 23 d	181 cm	83 kg	165	VIC	Geelong Falcons	8
Jack Crisp	Mid-Tall	25	2 Oct, 1993	28 y 11 d	190 cm	90 kg	175	VIC	Murray Bushrangers	9
Brodie Grundy	Ruck-Tall	4	15 Apr, 1994	27 y 181 d	203 cm	100 kg	171	SA	Sturt	10
Darcy Cameron	Util-Tall	14	18 Jul, 1995	26 y 87 d	205 cm	103 kg	29	WA	Claremont	11
Darcy Moore	Def-Tall-Key	30	25 Jan, 1996	25 y 261 d	203 cm	100 kg	102	VIC	Oakleigh Chargers	12
Jordan De Goey	Fwd-Med-Gen	2	15 Mar, 1996	25 y 212 d	188 cm	92 kg	118	VIC	Oakleigh Chargers	13
Brayden Maynard	Def-Med-Gen	37	20 Sep, 1996	25 y 23 d	189 cm	90 kg	138	VIC	Sandringham Dragons	14
John Noble	Def-Med-Gen	9	25 Mar, 1997	24 y 202 d	180 cm	72 kg	44	SA	West Adelaide	15
Tom Wilson	Util-Tall	12	24 Jun, 1997	24 y 111 d	187 cm	68 kg	4	VIC	Sydney King	16
Callum Brown	Mid-Smal	17	27 Apr, 1998	23 y 169 d	178 cm	77 kg	63	VIC	Eastern Ranges	17
Patrick Lipinski	Fwd-Med-Gen	27	17 Jul, 1998	23 y 88 d	187 cm	84 kg	56	VIC	Northern Knights	18
Josh Daicos	Fwd-Smal-Gen	7	26 Nov, 1998	22 y 321 d	178 cm	76 kg	52	VIC	Oakleigh Chargers	19
Nathan Kreuger	Fwd-Tall-Key	15	25 Jun, 1999	22 y 110 d	196 cm	88 kg	2	SA	South Adelaide	20
Tyler Brown	Mid-Med	6	9 Dec, 1999	21 y 308 d	188 cm	77 kg	15	VIC	Eastern Ranges	21
Nathan Murphy	Util-Med	28	15 Dec, 1999	21 y 302 d	190 cm	85 kg	15	VIC	Sandringham Dragons	22
Isaac Quaynor	Def-Smal-Gen	3	15 Jan, 2000	21 y 271 d	180 cm	83 kg	34	VIC	Oakleigh Chargers	23
Mark Keane	Fwd-Tall-Key	11	17 Mar, 2000	21 y 210 d	194 cm	92 kg	5	N/A	County Cork	24
Will Kelly	Def-Tall-Key	20	16 Aug, 2000	21 y 58 d	194 cm	84 kg	3	VIC	Oakleigh Chargers	25
Trent Bianco	Util-Med	8	20 Jan, 2001	20 y 266 d	178 cm	70 kg	11	VIC	Oakleigh Chargers	26
Beau McCreery	Fwd-Med-Gen	31	19 Apr, 2001	20 y 177 d	186 cm	80 kg	11	SA	South Adelaide	27
Trey Ruscoe	Def-Tall-Key	21	3 Nov, 2001	19 y 344 d	190 cm	90 kg	13	WA	East Fremantle	28
Finlay Macrae	Mid-Med	18	13 Mar, 2002	19 y 214 d	186 cm	78 kg	9	VIC	Oakleigh Chargers	29
Liam McMahon	Fwd-Tall-Key	29	2 May, 2002	19 y 164 d	194 cm	80 kg		VIC	Northern Knights	30
Oliver Henry	Fwd-Med-Gen	35	29 Jul, 2002	19 y 76 d	186 cm	72 kg	10	VIC	Geelong Falcons	31
Caleb Poulter	Mid-Tall	27	12 Oct, 2002	19 y 1 d	192 cm	79 kg	11	SA	Woodville-West Torrens	32
Jack Ginnivan	Fwd-Med-Gen	33	9 Dec, 2002	18 y 308 d	183 cm	77 kg	5	VIC	Bendigo Pioneers	33
Reef McInnes	Mid-Tall	26	12 Dec, 2002	18 y 305 d	193 cm	86 kg		VIC	Oakleigh Chargers	34
Nick Daicos	Mid-Med		3 Jan, 2003							35
										36
Mason Cox	Fwd-Tall-Key	46	14 Mar, 1991	30 y 213 d	211 cm	105 kg	75	N/A	Oklahoma State	37
Jack Madgen	Def-Tall-Key	44	25 Apr, 1993	28 y 171 d	192 cm	98 kg	39	SA	Barossa District	38
Name	Type	#	DOB	Age	Height	Weight	Gm	SOO	Recruited from
Isaac Chugg	Util-Med	34	26 Feb, 2002	19 y 229 d	180 cm	81 kg		TAS	Launceston	39
Aiden Begg	Ruck-Tall		8 Oct, 2002	19 y 5 d	197 cm	87 kg		VIC	Eastern Ranges	40
Ash Johnson	Fwd-Tall-Key		6 Oct, 1997	24 y 7 d	193 cm	85 kg		SA	Sturt	41
Empty										42
Empty										43
Empty										44

Noble and Ginnivan is on the rookie list.

Unless there are more list changes it'll be Nick, Dib + 1 more