List Mgmt. 2021 Trade & List Management Thread II - IN: CCJ

[giantroo]

Spoiler: Lore's 2021 Draft Order

Spoiler: Lore's 2022 Future Picks Draft Order

 

[pupstar]

The guy that's played 93 games? Yeh he doesn't really fit under "not enough AFL level exposure" does he?

Your persistent i will give you that much.

 

[buttox]

I'm very happy with the clubs day 1 of trade period.
Our 2022 third rounder is doing some quality work.

 

[Obedient Spatula]

Richmonds trade thread

 

[TiggerMan22]

You're entitled to your view. I think there is probably a blurry statute on retaining draft position value but at 4 seasons in it's passed imo.

If we came after CCJ in 2019 there'd be a reasonable argument that Richmond want more realisation of their original pick #20.

If we want to cite Nankervis as mentioned as precedent - he depreciated 1 round in value. 2nd round pick in 2013 traded for a 3rd round pick just 3 years later.

Applying the same logic to CCJ, his 2nd round selection should depreciate until at least a 3rd round selection - if not later because he comes with an off-field conduct disclaimer and an extra year on the clock.

It's only been 3 seasons, not 4. And 2 of them were so covid effected that the 2nds barely played which makes it harder to judge. Not to mention no space for him in a top team too

There's a bit of a difference between a second round pick #35 and a second round pick #20. One was the first pick of the second round. Bit silly to view the value of the pick purely based on the round it's on.

But hey if that's how you view it we've got a lovely pick #17 for #1 Same round so same value eh?

 

[TiggerMan22]

Did we actually offer CCJ $2 million? By golly, miss Molly, sack our recruiting people immediately and throw in Pick 1 to Richmond simultaneously. May still not be enough for these strange Richmond types who seem to enjoy making idiots of themselves over here.

How much did you offer him then?

 

[Le Grille]

It's only been 3 seasons, not 4. And 2 of them were so covid effected that the 2nds barely played which makes it harder to judge. Not to mention no space for him in a top team too

There's a bit of a difference between a second round pick #35 and a second round pick #20. One was the first pick of the second round. Bit silly to view the value of the pick purely based on the round it's on.

But hey if that's how you view it we've got a lovely pick #17 for #1 Same round so same value eh?

Our pick 1 doesn’t want to leave

 

[Kanga Glory]

How much did you offer him then?

PSD

 

[King Hansen]

Future 3rd or PSD.

Straight swap for Taz if Richmond are lucky.

Hold ya. They can keep their future 4th.

 

[krakouers]

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Tristan Xerri

38

Tristan Xerri

Age

25

Ht

201cm

Wt

99kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

5.5

1star

K

3.0

1star

HB

2.5

2star

CL

1.0

3star

HO

2.5

5star

D

5.5

1star

K

3.0

1star

HB

2.5

2star

CL

1.0

3star

HO

2.5

5star

D

5.5

2star

K

3.0

1star

HB

2.5

3star

CL

1.0

3star

HO

2.5

5star

is the newest name on the ruck merry-go-round as the potential implications begin from Tiger Callum Coleman-Jones

21

Callum Coleman-jones

Age

25

Ht

200cm

Wt

104kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.0

3star

K

6.0

2star

HB

7.0

4star

M

3.0

3star

T

5.0

5star

G

0.0

1star

No current season stats available

D

13.0

4star

K

6.0

3star

HB

7.0

5star

M

3.0

3star

T

5.0

5star

G

0.0

1star

’ impending arrival at North Melbourne.
St Kilda is on the hunt for a younger ruckman to partner Rowan Marshall

19

Rowan Marshall

Age

28

Ht

201cm

Wt

105kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

15.4

4star

K

8.8

3star

HB

6.6

4star

CL

3.4

5star

HO

20.2

5star

D

12.9

3star

K

9.3

4star

HB

3.6

2star

CL

2.8

4star

HO

17.8

5star

D

10.6

3star

K

5.8

3star

HB

4.8

4star

CL

1.0

3star

HO

7.8

5star

beyond next year, which looms as veteran big man Paddy Ryder’s last in the AFL.

It’s understood the Saints have honed in on contracted Kangaroo Xerri after also showing interest in Western Bulldog Jordon Sweet, who remains without a contract for 2022 and is linked to West Coast.

The Bulldogs have made Sweet an offer to stay, but he was overlooked in the finals for Lewis Young

33

Lewis Young

Age

25

Ht

202cm

Wt

99kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.6

3star

K

7.5

3star

HB

4.1

3star

M

4.4

4star

T

1.6

4star

MG

197.9

3star

D

4.0

1star

K

3.0

1star

HB

1.0

1star

M

3.0

3star

T

0.0

1star

MG

26.0

1star

D

14.4

4star

K

8.2

4star

HB

6.2

4star

M

6.4

5star

T

2.0

4star

MG

181.6

3star

, who has since requested a trade to Carlton.

North Melbourne would have to be willing to trade Xerri, who isn’t out of contract until the end of next year.

He averaged 21.5 disposals, 15.5 contested possessions, 5.5 clearances and 26.2 hit-outs in six VFL games this year, but played only eight matches at senior level, all in the second half of the season.

Todd Goldstein

17

Todd Goldstein

Age

36

Ht

201cm

Wt

101kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.2

3star

K

5.7

2star

HB

7.5

5star

CL

3.1

5star

HO

32.5

5star

D

16.7

4star

K

9.3

4star

HB

7.4

4star

CL

7.0

5star

HO

32.9

5star

D

5.2

2star

K

2.6

1star

HB

2.6

3star

HO

10.0

5star

remains the clear No. 1 ruck option at the Roos but turns 34 next year, when his three-year contract expires.

Tom Campbell

38

Tom Campbell

Age

33

Ht

201cm

Wt

108kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.1

2star

K

4.2

2star

HB

4.8

3star

CL

1.6

4star

HO

17.0

5star

D

5.0

1star

K

3.0

1star

HB

2.0

1star

CL

1.0

3star

HO

2.0

5star

D

7.2

2star

K

4.2

2star

HB

3.0

3star

CL

1.2

4star

HO

13.2

5star

kept 201cm Xerri out of the side up until Round 13 while serving as Goldstein’s deputy.

 

[Zondor]

Go 69 yourself

With my Big Schlong it something I do every now and again. How about you?:stern look

 

[Kangaroos4eva]

We wouldn’t get much for him.

 

[Le Grille]

We wouldn’t get much for him.

Surely he’s worth what we paid for him

 

[giantroo]

Jackson Hately

6

Jackson Hately

Age

24

Ht

191cm

Wt

85kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

15.3

4star

K

8.5

3star

HB

6.8

4star

M

4.8

5star

T

2.6

4star

CL

0.7

3star

D

14.2

3star

K

8.4

3star

HB

5.8

3star

M

4.8

4star

T

1.4

2star

CL

0.4

3star

D

17.2

5star

K

8.6

4star

HB

8.6

5star

M

5.6

5star

T

3.0

5star

CL

0.8

3star

- #14 pick, Crows offered pick 40 and GWS rejected it. They went to the PSD.

Callum Coleman-Jones

21

Callum Coleman-jones

Age

25

Ht

200cm

Wt

104kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.0

3star

K

6.0

2star

HB

7.0

4star

M

3.0

3star

T

5.0

5star

G

0.0

1star

No current season stats available

D

13.0

4star

K

6.0

3star

HB

7.0

5star

M

3.0

3star

T

5.0

5star

G

0.0

1star

- #20 pick , North offered future 3rd (~38-42). Let's see if the Tigers accept or lose him for nothing.

 

[King Hansen]

We wouldn’t get much for him.

Let's ask for a pick around 20 just to piss the tiger fans off

 

[buttox]

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Tristan Xerri is the newest name on the ruck merry-go-round as the potential implications begin from Tiger Callum Coleman-Jones’ impending arrival at North Melbourne.
St Kilda is on the hunt for a younger ruckman to partner Rowan Marshall beyond next year, which looms as veteran big man Paddy Ryder’s last in the AFL.

It’s understood the Saints have honed in on contracted Kangaroo Xerri after also showing interest in Western Bulldog Jordon Sweet, who remains without a contract for 2022 and is linked to West Coast.

The Bulldogs have made Sweet an offer to stay, but he was overlooked in the finals for Lewis Young, who has since requested a trade to Carlton.

North Melbourne would have to be willing to trade Xerri, who isn’t out of contract until the end of next year.

He averaged 21.5 disposals, 15.5 contested possessions, 5.5 clearances and 26.2 hit-outs in six VFL games this year, but played only eight matches at senior level, all in the second half of the season.

Todd Goldstein remains the clear No. 1 ruck option at the Roos but turns 34 next year, when his three-year contract expires.

Tom Campbell kept 201cm Xerri out of the side up until Round 13 while serving as Goldstein’s deputy.

Interesting.
This makes sense.

 

[krakouers]

Jackson Hately - #14 pick - 13 games - Crows offered pick 40 and GWS rejected it. They went to the PSD.

Callum Coleman-Jones - #20 pick - 9 games - North offered future 3rd (~38-42). Let's see if the Tigers accept or lose him for nothing.

 

[The Lone Latic]

Jackson Hately - #14 pick, Crows offered pick 40 and GWS rejected it. They went to the PSD.

Callum Coleman-Jones - #20 pick , North offered future 3rd (~38-42). Let's see if the Tigers accept or lose him for nothing.

Maybe this is the recent precedent Luff might be referring to, though I think so given he referenced CCJs position as a ruck forward

 

[buttox]

Saints picks.

does 49 get Xerri?

 

[Zondor]

So nobody is interested in Big Tommy C? Why? :stern look

 

[giantroo]

Saints picks.
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does 49 get Xerri?

Possibly or even a future 3rd or 4th.

 

[hilly]

The guy that's played 93 games? Yeh he doesn't really fit under "not enough AFL level exposure" does he?

Yes they need to have a hyphened name and be young young not young oh and also over 196cm.

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[buttox]

Possibly or even a future 3rd or 4th.

A future third would mean we can trade ours out to the tigers or the suns.
and still move our future first if we get an offer.

 

[hilly]

49 not enough for Xerri given he is contracted which some of you will understand is important.

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[Gorman2Geister]

Possibly or even a future 3rd or 4th.

Richmond logic indicates that because we put 4 years development into him and he's ready to flourish that he must be worth a second rounder...

 

[Le Grille]

I do think clubs will look to trade players with a year to go on the contract going forward