List Mgmt. 2021 Trade & List Management Thread II - IN: CCJ

[giantroo]

Spoiler: Lore's 2021 Draft Order

Spoiler: Lore's 2022 Future Picks Draft Order

 

[The Nostradamus]

4 dps, 1 psd/rd/DFA plus CCJ

out: Garner, WW, Taz, Tyson, Menadue, (X or TC)

6 in 6 out?

We have 1 extra player due to selecting a second msd for a LTI (Perez who is back on the list)

so you need an extra out compared to in

 

[buttox]

4 dps, 1 psd/rd/DFA plus CCJ

out: Garner, WW, Taz, Tyson, Menadue, (X or TC)

6 in 6 out?

Dumont, Atley, Campbell and Ham dont have contracts.
Lynch might also be an in.

 

[Le Grille]

FInally have a chance to get them off the books and you want to re sign them.
They haven't been recontracted for a reason.
Might as well ask dom tyson if he wants a list spot too.

Both of them have contributed a damn sigh more and have a lot more to offer than Tyson.

Id happily sign them to low 1 yr deals unless a better option presents itself, for the reasons I stated above. Show me who there is available to replace those spots.

I get they are not sexy and don’t have “upside” but they hold value from a squad POV

 

[The Filth Wizard]

That's like trying to give yourself a nickname

Filthy, who endured three lockdowns, wants to be known as more than 'Filthy the handsome and adequately hung moderator".

 

[Roo202]

I know that it is how negotiations work, but be interesting to know how X feels about the club he's wanting to leave valuing him at future 2nd and the club he wants to get to, who he also sees himself with a future at, is currently valuing him at a nothing pick.

Given the Saints have convinced him to request the trade, surely it is on them to get the deal done? He's contracted and it certainly isn't NM's problem that they have no picks between 9 and 62.

 

[Le Grille]

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Dumont, Atley, Campbell and Ham dont have contracts.
Lynch might also be an in.

I’d drop ham before either of those, depending on the lynch situation, then I guess I’d probably drop Atley before Frog

 

[The Nostradamus]

I know that it is how negotiations work, but be interesting to know how X feels about the club he's wanting to leave valuing him at future 2nd and the club he wants to get to, who he also sees himself with a future at, is currently valuing him at a nothing pick.

Given the Saints have convinced him to request the trade, surely it is on them to get the deal done? He's contracted and it certainly isn't NM's problem that they have no picks between 9 and 62.

I think he’ll stay and he’ll look back and realise it’s the right move to stay

 

[Merlin007]

I am definitely warming to Brander if we can develop him into a proper KPP, but DFA the way to go or PSD?

Ask me this last week and I’d have said no way, however we should get one more kpd after tazs exit. I’m not minding it

I'm open to it as well (by whatever route, it would be cheap however he got here); has he played as the third KPD?

 

[Kangaroos4eva]

I'm open to it as well (by whatever route, it would be cheap however he got here); has he played as the third KPD?

I think he has been used everywhere very early on, but has been left to develop as a tall winger because of his leg speed.

 

[Le Grille]

I know that it is how negotiations work, but be interesting to know how X feels about the club he's wanting to leave valuing him at future 2nd and the club he wants to get to, who he also sees himself with a future at, is currently valuing him at a nothing pick.

Given the Saints have convinced him to request the trade, surely it is on them to get the deal done? He's contracted and it certainly isn't NM's problem that they have no picks between 9 and 62.

Absolutely it’s on the saints

 

[buttox]

I’d drop ham before either of those, depending on the lynch situation, then I guess I’d probably drop Atley before Frog

I'm starting to think we delist all 4.
Otherwise list numbers are very tight.
Lynch comes in and 3 are gone for certain.

 

[Le Grille]

I'm starting to think we delist all 4.
Otherwise list numbers are very tight.
Lynch comes in and 3 are gone for certain.

What would we fill those spots with?

 

[giantroo]

"Second or third tall forward"

 

[Shinboner1]

What would we fill those spots with?

players in the national draft?

 

[Merlin007]

I know that it is how negotiations work, but be interesting to know how X feels about the club he's wanting to leave valuing him at future 2nd and the club he wants to get to, who he also sees himself with a future at, is currently valuing him at a nothing pick.

Given the Saints have convinced him to request the trade, surely it is on them to get the deal done? He's contracted and it certainly isn't NM's problem that they have no picks between 9 and 62.

tell that to the Saints people; they're under the bizarre impression the ball is in our court - as far as I can tell, the only time it came over the net, Brady squashed it with a mallet

 

[giantroo]

 

[imtheduck]

Probably unlikely to happen but 20, 42 and Xerri for pick 9? 20 and 42 are equivalent of pick 12

 

[LB2Snake]

If the kid is investing himself in NMFC history already, what are the chances of the go home factor coming into play? Zip in the short term future. If that changes down the line, we'll deal with it then.

This bolded bit interests me there Passmore ...what ya got?

 

[buttox]

What would we fill those spots with?

I think we keep 1 list spot open take 5 picks total over the drafts. +CCJ + Lynch
Tell Dumont, Atley and Ham they are competing over the preseason period for one spot.
And offer a few other unlisted players the same chance.

 

[Kangaroos4eva]

"Second or third tall forward"

DFA it is.

 

[Le Grille]

players in the national draft?

Picks # 72 and #77, you think that’s really going to provide a meaningful backup in a injury or form slump situation.

 

[Le Grille]

All that said I think the Atley and Dumont spots should be taken up by experienced players. If there are better options, I’m happy to move them on

 

[GS WARRIORS]

Not a shot at you GSW, but I wish people would stop saying stuff like this. With a list in our position having players like Dumont and Atley still hold value. Both have attracted little interest in FA so the price we might sign them at is unlikely to be high.

the value is we can keep these players as solid, dependable squad members (compared to any available alternatives)if and when injury or form is an issue. It creates competition for spots, and can avoid underdeveloped players being thrown in the deep end.

id sign both .

All good.

I don't rate Atley and don't think he has a place in the side.

Brander may have as we need tall defenders. He may work as a 3rd tall. I'd put Skinner and the tall Geelong delisted last year in the same boat as worth a shot over Atley as tall defenders.

 

[Le Grille]

All good.

I don't rate Atley and don't think he has a place in the side.

Brander may have as we need tall defenders. He may work as a 3rd tall. I'd put Skinner and the tall Geelong delisted last year in the same boat as worth a shot over Atley as tall defenders.

Atley is not a tall defender so I see that but there are circumstances where we could have both.

 

[Sphynx]

All that said I think the Atley and Dumont spots should be taken up by experienced players. If there are better options, I’m happy to move them on

Why?

Dumont is a midfielder and those inexperienced kids are now getting more experienced.

LDU is entering his 5th year, Simpkin will play his 100th game. They don't need protection. They have Cunnington there for that.

Anderson will struggle to get a game, we don't need an experienced replacement for Dumont.


The backline is experienced enough as it is. Again McKay turnes 24 in a few months, Corr will be back and Hall and Ziebell are both 30+ vets in there. McDonald will be 27 and in his 9th season, he will play his 150th next year.


We just need genuine good young players in each position.