List Mgmt. 2021 Trade Thread - Part III

[George]

Delisted;
Oscar Clavarino

38

Oscar Clavarino

Age

25

Ht

197cm

Wt

89kg

Pos.

Def

No player stats available

Sam Alabakis

45

Sam Alabakis

Age

27

Ht

211cm

Wt

105kg

Pos.

Ruck

No player stats available

Jack Lonie

13

Jack Lonie

Age

28

Ht

175cm

Wt

70kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.5

3star

K

7.8

3star

HB

4.7

3star

M

3.1

3star

T

2.8

4star

G

0.9

4star

D

10.7

3star

K

7.9

3star

HB

2.9

2star

M

3.7

4star

T

2.6

4star

G

0.7

4star

D

13.4

4star

K

9.0

4star

HB

4.4

4star

M

2.8

3star

T

3.2

5star

G

1.0

4star

Paul Hunter

41

Paul Hunter

Age

31

Ht

200cm

Wt

104kg

Pos.

Ruck

No player stats available

Traded;
Luke Dunstan

27

Luke Dunstan

Age

29

Ht

185cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

20.7

5star

K

10.1

4star

HB

10.6

5star

M

3.3

3star

T

4.8

5star

CL

4.4

5star

D

21.0

5star

K

13.0

5star

HB

8.0

4star

M

3.0

3star

T

9.0

5star

CL

2.0

4star

D

18.2

5star

K

6.0

3star

HB

12.2

5star

M

2.4

3star

T

6.2

5star

CL

4.2

5star

Retired;
Jake Carlisle

2

Jake Carlisle

Age

33

Ht

200cm

Wt

106kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.6

3star

K

8.7

3star

HB

4.9

4star

M

6.2

5star

T

1.6

4star

MG

116.3

2star

D

11.7

3star

K

8.4

3star

HB

3.3

2star

M

5.9

5star

T

1.1

2star

MG

116.3

2star

D

12.4

4star

K

6.4

3star

HB

6.0

4star

M

6.6

5star

T

0.8

3star

Dylan Roberton

17

Dylan Roberton

Age

33

Ht

194cm

Wt

94kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.1

4star

K

11.4

4star

HB

5.8

4star

M

4.8

5star

T

1.9

4star

MG

373.2

5star

D

8.0

2star

K

7.0

3star

HB

1.0

1star

M

1.0

1star

T

0.0

1star

MG

215.0

3star

D

14.6

4star

K

10.2

4star

HB

4.4

4star

M

4.6

5star

T

1.6

4star

Shaun McKernan

27

Shaun Mckernan

Age

34

Ht

196cm

Wt

100kg

Pos.

F/R

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.0

3star

K

8.3

3star

HB

4.7

3star

M

4.5

4star

T

1.8

4star

G

1.0

4star

D

8.4

2star

K

5.6

2star

HB

2.8

2star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.6

3star

G

1.0

4star

D

17.0

5star

K

8.2

4star

HB

8.8

5star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.2

3star

G

0.2

3star

James Frawley

24

James Frawley

Age

36

Ht

193cm

Wt

96kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.2

4star

K

9.2

4star

HB

5.1

4star

M

5.1

5star

T

1.9

4star

MG

135.4

2star

D

8.7

2star

K

6.0

2star

HB

2.7

2star

M

3.0

3star

T

0.9

2star

MG

135.4

2star

D

9.0

3star

K

4.0

2star

HB

5.0

4star

M

1.8

2star

T

1.2

3star

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Restricted and Unrestricted Free Agency Window
Friday October 1 – Friday October 8

Trade Period
Players: Monday October 4 – Wednesday October 13
Picks: Monday October 4 – Monday November 15

List Lodgement 1
Friday October 29

Delisted Free Agency Window 1
Wednesday November 3 - Tuesday November 9

List Lodgement 2 (Final date for primary list delistings)
Wednesday November 10

Delisted Free Agency Window 2
Thursday November 11 - Monday November 15

AFL Pre-Season Commences (First to fourth year players)
Monday November 22

National Draft
Round 1: Wednesday November 24 (7pm)
Round 2 – completion: Thursday November 25 (7pm - late)

Preseason and Rookie Drafts
Friday November 26 (3.20pm)

Final List Lodgement
Monday November 29

Pre-Season Commences (All other players)
Monday 6 December

Pre-Season Supplemental Selection Period (SSP)
December - March (tbc)

Pre-Season Christmas Break
Sunday 19 December - Sunday 9 January

 

[Ekomaira]

Dunstan got 1 less Brownlow vote than AA Midfielder Jack Macrae. Clearly equivalent players who had equivalent seasons.

straight swap surely

 

[The Punter]

Was a pretty good draft/trade season.
We used the following year's 2nd round pick to bring in a ready to go young mid - Jack Steele.

The Hawks trade was for our first and 4th, we got the Coffield pick plus a second and third.
The best we probably could have hoped for would have been Florent or Venables.
Instead we ended up with all of Coffield , Long , and Battle.

I still think Long was an odd choice, but that reflects our recruiters rather than the deal done with the Hawks, which was very favourable to us.
God knows why we didn't choose Bolton.

Really? I would think it would be pretty obvious. It relates to the "no d***heads" policy.

 

[hangdog]

Was a pretty good draft/trade season.
We used the following year's 2nd round pick to bring in a ready to go young mid - Jack Steele.

The Hawks trade was for our first and 4th, we got the Coffield pick plus a second and third.
The best we probably could have hoped for would have been Florent or Venables.
Instead we ended up with all of Coffield , Long , and Battle.

I still think Long was an odd choice, but that reflects our recruiters rather than the deal done with the Hawks, which was very favourable to us.
God knows why we didn't choose Bolton.

Or Parfitt, who went immediately after Long.

 

[SaintsSeptember]

What's the average AFL salary?

It's based on average for that year right?

So if I have a 5 year deal on 200k a year then it's the same as a 1 year deal on 200k?

Or do they look at total?

I'm worried it will be a tiny base salary with massive bonus payments for getting games etc.
The bonus payments aren't counted for compensation.

 

[AaronSCHQ]

I always thought it was just cos it rhymes with Luke

Spooky Luke

I think it's because he has big arms and got real crook on that night out in Adelaide and ghosted the boys and was found the by the cops on that bench.

Luke with Dukes did a Spook and a Puke.

 

[StCicatriz]

Was a pretty good draft/trade season.
We used the following year's 2nd round pick to bring in a ready to go young mid - Jack Steele.

The Hawks trade was for our first and 4th, we got the Coffield pick plus a second and third.
The best we probably could have hoped for would have been Florent or Venables.
Instead we ended up with all of Coffield , Long , and Battle.

I still think Long was an odd choice, but that reflects our recruiters rather than the deal done with the Hawks, which was very favourable to us.
God knows why we didn't choose Bolton.

Was a bizarre one. That was the next big shock after the mccartin one.

 

[bird_man]

What's the average AFL salary?

It's based on average for that year right?

So if I have a 5 year deal on 200k a year then it's the same as a 1 year deal on 200k?

Or do they look at total?

It's on annual wage

The best we can hope for is a 3rd round compo.

 

[StCicatriz]

It's on annual wage

The best we can hope for is a 3rd round compo.

I guess something is better than nothing.

 

[Joffaboy]

Going on Brownlow votes as worth we should easily get band 1 for Dunstan after all he got more votes than
Neale
Cripps
Pendlebury
Dangerfield
Cotchin
Heeney.

How did we let this superstar go?

 

[Dr Spaceman]

Essendon is probably the closest model to that in recent times and they have stepped back to the draft. Sides with one elite player rarely win premierships so we'd have to get a few tipping into that from the current group and new recruits to really step up to get to Melbourne level.

And how would the Bombers look now if Daniher, Saad & Fantasia had chosen to stay with them?

A lot easier to step back and hit the draft when players with currency decide, en masse, they're leaving, than to turf players with currency out the door in the hope of bringing in better talent.

 

[HunterClarksCandyShop]

I think it's because he has big arms and got real crook on that night out in Adelaide and ghosted the boys and was found the by the cops on that bench.

Luke with Dukes did a Spook and a Puke.

For Fookes Sake that was bad.

 

[StCicatriz]

Read this and thank **** we ain't Carlton. Check the numbers thrown around here:

When Carlton landed both Adam Saad

42

Adam Saad

Age

30

Ht

178cm

Wt

79kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.5

4star

K

10.0

4star

HB

7.5

5star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.7

4star

MG

349.1

5star

D

20.7

5star

K

12.0

5star

HB

8.7

4star

M

3.3

3star

T

2.4

3star

MG

388.3

5star

D

17.6

5star

K

10.4

4star

HB

7.2

5star

M

4.2

4star

T

1.2

3star

and Zac Williams in last year’s off-season, the view of quite a number of rival clubs was that they had invested too heavily in running defenders.

The Blues had paid more than $1.4 million for that pair, their purchase predicated somewhat on their hope that Williams, to whom the Giants had offered $700,000 a season over five years, would bolster their area of greatest weakness - the midfield.

But the classy Cerra will come at a more than respectable cost in terms of contract - far less than the $700,000-plus that the Dockers had offered.

What in the hell were GWS and Freo thinking!!!

 

[kernelT]

Read this and thank fu** we ain't Carlton. Check the numbers thrown around here:


What in the hell were GWS and Freo thinking!!!

They have about 10 blokes on 700-1mil and are still shit.

 

[StCicatriz]

They have about 10 blokes on 700-1mil and are still sh*t.

I'm sending them my resume. They should get a tax deduction for making a charitable donation

 

[KingsRansom]

Dunstan got healthy Brownlow votes due to a handful of very good games, yet we had quite a few players who didn't get votes, and it shows me we had too many under-performers this season..too much inconsistency which is why we lost games that we were pencilled in to win, and in the end cost us a finals berth. We do need top get more class in the midfield for a start.

Bailey Smith, liberatore, Adam treloar, viney and braysaw all had less votes than Dunstan.....does that mean they had a horrible year as well???

Brownlow votes mean nothing

 

[kernelT]

Bailey Smith, liberatore, Adam treloar, viney and braysaw all had less votes than Dunstan.....does that mean they had a horrible year as well???

Brownlow votes mean nothing

At the same time, not many complete spuds poll brownlow votes in half the games they play.

Luke played some excellent footy this year I don't think that can be disputed, and while he may not fit into our best 22 I wish him well… no need for anyone to trash his rep on the way out, it's actually pathetic.

 

[sammm]

Funnily enough he’s gone from depth at St Kilda, to depth at Melbourne. Seems Spook overvalued himself. Anyway, good luck to him

he might get into a grand final again. but also he might be playing vfl unless he pulls his finger out next year and play like he did for sandringham for a number of weeks.

I i will be happy if we get compensation for his move.

 

[sunny3193]

I remember this too now that you mention it. From memory that poster was actually a practicing professional in that field themselves and was adamant that JOM would never play.
I think it was a Hawks poster and not a Saints one though. Probably chased away from the forum due to shame lol.

I think it was Rors himself.

 

[bird_man]

I guess something is better than nothing.

I'd be happy to get that.

Gives us something for NGA point A or more ability to trade up.

 

[AaronSCHQ]

Fingers crossed a couple of clubs (e.g. Ess or Freo as mentioned) were remotely interested in Dunstan, so that Melb gave enough of a base contract to trigger a compo pick.

 

[D2D3]

I'd be happy to get that.

Gives us something for NGA point A or more ability to trade up.

Yeah I'd be happy with a 3rd given I thoguht we'd get nothing. Hopefully Richo wanting him as well as GC inadvertantly puts his price up a little.

 

[sammm]

The 3rd rounder would be great, but will Melbourne be paying him above the minimum contract?

i would think so.

 

[Winmar2Lockett]

I would settle for end of 3rd round compo

Reckon we'll get pick 55

 

[Joffaboy]

Fingers crossed a couple of clubs (e.g. Ess or Freo as mentioned) were remotely interested in Dunstan, so that Melb gave enough of a base contract to trigger a compo pick.

Now Dunstan is over, quite a few clubs have shown interest in both Long and Battle, clubs I have heard are Essendon, Dogs and Richmond, but for whom or for what is unknown.
I think we aren't getting offered what we require to move them though. I feel Battle may stay (wouldn't mind) and Long goes (wouldn't mind). But tht is opinion only.

 

[Darrian Barnett]

If anyone wants a laugh have a read of this. https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/te...y/news-story/cc595215a55304909ce0172e74089797

I’d expect from Joey, but it beggars belief at how little research King does.