List Mgmt. 2022 AFL Draft Discussion

[Scorpus]

Our draft haul:

Pick 17 - Max Michalanney (matched F/S)
Pick 43 - Billy Dowling
Pick 50 - Hugh Bond

Rookie Pick 5 - Andrew McPherson

36

Andrew Mcpherson

Age

25

Ht

187cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.5

3star

K

6.0

2star

HB

4.5

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.5

3star

MG

118.5

2star

D

10.5

3star

K

6.0

2star

HB

4.5

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.5

2star

MG

118.5

2star

D

10.5

3star

K

6.0

3star

HB

4.5

4star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.5

4star

MG

118.5

2star

(re-listed)
Rookie Pick 21 - Paul Seedsman

11

Paul Seedsman

Age

32

Ht

190cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.3

5star

K

10.7

4star

HB

7.6

5star

M

3.9

4star

T

2.9

4star

CL

1.5

4star

D

15.8

4star

K

8.2

3star

HB

7.6

4star

M

2.4

3star

T

4.4

5star

CL

1.8

4star

D

19.8

5star

K

14.0

5star

HB

5.8

4star

M

4.4

4star

T

2.6

4star

CL

1.4

4star

(re-listed)

 

[dogs105]

Am I correct in my understanding .....if you nominate a player as a Father / Son ...you are obligated to match a bid ?

No. Otherwise, why would anyone bid? Or else bid on them all at the start to make them cost the most.

 

[crow2crow]

Where's he got Casey Voss?

he had him at 15 or something stupid

 

[crows dude]

If I've got it right, we have 3 list spots available.
1 will be for MM.
1 maybe for a slider - Mattaes or Barnett etc... if we can make the right trade back in.
1 kept on hold - maybe Turner? Maybe a developing KPD or ruck if we don't get Barnett.

Does that sound right?

We also delisted McPherson with the intention of rookie picking him. Given the injury, could we perhaps be a bit more ruthless and just cut him?

1- Berry
2- Borlase cat b
3- Butts
4- Cook
5- Crouch
6- Dawson
7- Doedee
8- Fogarty
9- Gollant
10- Hamill
11- Hately
12- Himmelberg
13- Jones
14- Keays
15- Laird
16- McAdam
17- McAsey
18- McHenry
19- Milera
20- Murphy
21- Murray rookie
22- Nankervis
23- Newchurch cat b
24- O’Brien
25- Parnell rookie
26 - Pedlar
27 - Rachele
28 - Rankine
29- Schoenberg
30- Sholl
31- Sloane
32- Smith
33- Soligo
34- Strachan
36- Taylor
37- Thilthorpe
38- Walker
39 - Worrell

Currently it’s
2 Cat A Rookies. 2 picks (Seedsman McPherson)

2 Cat B Rookies 0 picks
35 senior list 3 picks
Total list = 44

 

[crows dude]

Am I correct in my understanding .....if you nominate a player as a Father / Son ...you are obligated to match a bid ?

No but if he doesn’t get selected he goes onto cat b rookie list automatically

 

[crow2crow]

1- Berry
2- Borlase cat b
3- Butts
4- Cook
5- Crouch
6- Dawson
7- Doedee
8- Fogarty
9- Gollant
10- Hamill
11- Hately
12- Himmelberg
13- Jones
14- Keays
15- Laird
16- McAdam
17- McAsey
18- McHenry
19- Milera
20- Murphy
21- Murray rookie
22- Nankervis
23- Newchurch cat b
24- O’Brien
25- Parnell rookie
26 - Pedlar
27 - Rachele
28 - Rankine
29- Schoenberg
30- Sholl
31- Sloane
32- Smith
33- Soligo
34- Strachan
36- Taylor
37- Thilthorpe
38- Walker
39 - Worrell

Currently it’s
2 Cat A Rookies. 2 picks (Seedsman McPherson)

2 Cat B Rookies 0 picks
35 senior list 3 picks
Total list = 44

absolutely cut mcpherson will never play afl again

 

[Mostyn]

Speculative picks for a player you know they want desperately...

A player we know who wants desperately?

The Crows, who couldn't have traded away pick 5 faster than what they did? There's no evidence we want him.

 

[pjcrows]

A player we know who wants desperately?

The Crows, who couldn't have traded away pick 5 faster than what they did? There's no evidence we want him.

I think you need to read my original post again.

 

[GrommoT]

Any chance we could offer this to North for Pick 3?

 

[Carmo]

Regarding trading our future first, especially for a particular player in this years draft, seems very risky to do it before draft night since it seems to me that, as surprising as it may seem, clubs really only finalise their lists about a day or two out from the draft. It seems, for example, that clubs like to see the prospect and their parents together at the same time and watch the interactions and relationships and they can guage a fair bit with that and if the kid is a long way away at school doing year 12, the clubs only get this chance right at the last minute before the draft when the kids go home after exams.

If you trade your pick early and there's no goss that club x is going for your player ahead of the pick you get, great, but if you get that pick, then find out some club ahead of you is def going for that player, well if you have no other options around the pick you acquired its going to be a wasted pick most likely. Big risks. Sometimes you'd do it, a lot of times I reckon you'd sit it out, at least until draft night, and even then...

 

[GROTTO]

 

[tinman]

Am I correct in my understanding .....if you nominate a player as a Father / Son ...you are obligated to match a bid ?

No. Otherwise GWS would bid on MM at 1 and clean us out of the draft and put us in deficit. If the bid comes before where we value him, we won’t match.

 

[Mutineer]

A father/son I wouldn't mind us looking at late/rookie perhaps, great athleticism, great speed and agility and lovely foot skills. Hails from the same area as his old man in Gippsland so shouldn't have any go home issues.

 

[spenze]

Any chance we could offer this to North for Pick 3?

We could, by all means, think they would say no though

 

[Mr MysteryGuest]

So MM, one pick, then what?
Hold a spot for a Verrall type?

I'd be keen to just cut McPherson and free up that extra spot.

That’s seems cruel given we’ve already made a promise to him.

We have 3 main list spots open

 

[1990crow]

A father/son I wouldn't mind us looking at late/rookie perhaps, great athleticism, great speed and agility and lovely foot skills. Hails from the same area as his old man in Gippsland so shouldn't have any go home issues.



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Moves well but looks like his kick lacks depth.

 

[Mutineer]

Moves well but looks like his kick lacks depth.

No, he's an accurate and quite penetrating kick actually on what I've seen for the Gippsland Power and Vic Country....a real metres gained player with his run and carry. Would be a nice get late/rookie. Wing IMO would be his spot and you'd love to be a forward leading at him.

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A medium defender with composure, elite decision-making and precise kicking to set up the play from midfield or defence. He had a consistent 2022 season, averaging 20 disposals (77 per cent efficiency) across 13 matches for the Gippsland Power, with his speed being a feature of his play. While not father-son eligible, he is the son of Jacob Schuback, who was selected by Adelaide in the 2001 Draft and played seven games for the Crows. Tested very well at the State Draft Combine in Victoria, with his 2.98 seconds for the 20m sprint, 8.3 seconds on the agility test and 6:39 seconds for the 2km time trial all strong performances.

 

[Crow till I die]

No, he's an accurate and quite penetrating kick actually on what I've seen for the Gippsland Power and Vic Country....a real metres gained player with his run and carry. Would be a nice get late/rookie. Wing IMO would be his spot and you'd love to be a forward leading at him.

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A medium defender with composure, elite decision-making and precise kicking to set up the play from midfield or defence. He had a consistent 2022 season, averaging 20 disposals (77 per cent efficiency) across 13 matches for the Gippsland Power, with his speed being a feature of his play. While not father-son eligible, he is the son of Jacob Schuback, who was selected by Adelaide in the 2001 Draft and played seven games for the Crows. Tested very well at the State Draft Combine in Victoria, with his 2.98 seconds for the 20m sprint, 8.3 seconds on the agility test and 6:39 seconds for the 2km time trial all strong performances.

its funny - ModernArtillery picked Shuback and Verrall in the mock draft and I know you have been very positive of big Verrall as well. Is that your burner account

 

[Mutineer]

its funny - ModernArtillery picked Shuback and Verrall in the mock draft and I know you have been very positive of big Verrall as well. Is that your burner account

Nope he must be a fair judge of U18's footballers obviously.

I''ve rated Jonti all along...kickers like him are high premium.

 

[1990crow]

No, he's an accurate and quite penetrating kick actually on what I've seen for the Gippsland Power and Vic Country....a real metres gained player with his run and carry. Would be a nice get late/rookie. Wing IMO would be his spot and you'd love to be a forward leading at him.

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A medium defender with composure, elite decision-making and precise kicking to set up the play from midfield or defence. He had a consistent 2022 season, averaging 20 disposals (77 per cent efficiency) across 13 matches for the Gippsland Power, with his speed being a feature of his play. While not father-son eligible, he is the son of Jacob Schuback, who was selected by Adelaide in the 2001 Draft and played seven games for the Crows. Tested very well at the State Draft Combine in Victoria, with his 2.98 seconds for the 20m sprint, 8.3 seconds on the agility test and 6:39 seconds for the 2km time trial all strong performances.

His highlights he is struggling to kick 40m.

 

[Mutineer]

His highlights he is struggling to kick 40m.

Think you better go have another look or go to the NAB League App and have a look at some Gippy Power games.

 

[Jetafl]

12 months on, we're still in the same boat ....I still contend we should have orchestrated a deal for Finn Callaghan (191cm midfielder)

12 months ago, I knew we needed to be a couple more picks up the board and I'd read that he would highly likely go to the Giants but given what we need I was hoping until his name was read out, he we land at the club maybe I'm a little seduced by big bodied mids at times but no doubt we still desperately need one and have done for yonks.

 

[Jeffcrowe]

I'm not denying that for a minute .....just IMO Callaghan / Andrew plus Rankine this year were the better combo for future success

Interesting discussion .....if we knew we were going to be getting Rankine ...would we have made the same choice re Rachelle
It's the argument of ball generator (midfielder) versus the finisher .......what's our Achilles heel again ?

I think they are vastly different styles of players, the only similar thing is their height

But anytime you add ultra talented clean ball handling skilful young players it’s a good thing

Exactly what we lacked - skill , X factor , match winning capabilities etc

 

[Jeffcrowe]

Yep the Suns head recruiter Kali Burns said in an interview with Cal Twomey this week that they flew over to Perth earlier in the week (7 hour flight) and drove out to Dunsborough (3 hour drive) to meet Rueben and his family so they certainly have very real interest.

WA gun on Gold Coast's radar as Suns seek midfield boost

Gold Coast officials met with Reuben Ginbey and his family in WA this week ahead of next week's NAB AFL Draft

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Reckon Humphries is their man but Ginbey the back up in case Essendon take Humphries

 

[Jeffcrowe]

I hesitate to use the word flags but have heard that may be some issues with Hewett. Cannot confirm as only grapevine stuff.

I’ve got a feeling Hewett drifts on the night too

 

[1990crow]

Think you better go have another look or go to the NAB League App and have a look at some Gippy Power games.

I'll admit I don't have time to go through full games.
Rewatched the highlights and one decent kick 55 out to just shy of the line.
The rest maybe he was pulling his kicks and highlights don't show this aspect.

Appears to be an accurate kick though