List Mgmt. 2022 AFL Draft Discussion

[Scorpus]

Our draft haul:

Pick 17 - Max Michalanney (matched F/S)
Pick 43 - Billy Dowling
Pick 50 - Hugh Bond

Rookie Pick 5 - Andrew McPherson

36

Andrew Mcpherson

Age

25

Ht

187cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.5

3star

K

6.0

2star

HB

4.5

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.5

3star

MG

118.5

2star

D

10.5

3star

K

6.0

2star

HB

4.5

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.5

2star

MG

118.5

2star

D

10.5

3star

K

6.0

3star

HB

4.5

4star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.5

4star

MG

118.5

2star

(re-listed)
Rookie Pick 21 - Paul Seedsman

11

Paul Seedsman

Age

32

Ht

190cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.3

5star

K

10.7

4star

HB

7.6

5star

M

3.9

4star

T

2.9

4star

CL

1.5

4star

D

15.8

4star

K

8.2

3star

HB

7.6

4star

M

2.4

3star

T

4.4

5star

CL

1.8

4star

D

19.8

5star

K

14.0

5star

HB

5.8

4star

M

4.4

4star

T

2.6

4star

CL

1.4

4star

(re-listed)

 

[Crow till I die]

I'm not convinced there are a lot of natural footballers who are not athletic who are available in the draft in the modern game. Without athletic abilities they're not going to get through the junior systems to get discovered in most cases, and probably won't be suitable for the AFL anyway. Obviously you might find the occasional gem but it's going to be rare and not a viable drafting strategy. That said, Pedlar is someone with some good football attributes who seems to lack the fitness/tank side of the game at the moment and he's not doing better than someone like Berry who is less highly skilled but has the physical/athletic side down and is growing in to the rest of his game. Maybe Pedlar comes good with another preseason or two and is a star, maybe not, but Berry seems to be ahead right now.

But even in the Pedlar case he's obviously still athletic, just doesn't have an AFL level tank. Basically I think this is something which sounds good but doesn't really exist, unless you can point to some natural footballers who just needed to be conditioned that we've passed over in the draft and some other, wiser club picked up. We've had plenty of draft misses but they don't look like that to me.

What i was meaning is that first and foremost we should be prioritising kicking skills and composure with the ball. No doubt all kids have an athletic profile but i would not be prioritising guys that can run 30k or that are endurance beasts unless they have the foot skills and composure.

For example, a darren jarman ( extreme example) is always better regardless he didn't have express speed or a huge tank

 

[earlsta]

It we are up for drafting just in terms of a game breaker with real weapons

1. Sheezel
2. Phillipou
3. Tsatas
4. Hewett

^ Are the obvious in order of preference for me

McKenzie and Jye Clarke are also both potential great mids but likely be more the consistent types and overall I have then higher than Hewett as he’s a bit risky ( big gap between good and bad )

Can you imagine Sheezel and Rachelle in our forward line?

 

[Jeffcrowe]

Can you imagine Sheezel and Rachelle in our forward line?

Would be crazy !

Also reckon both end up playing good mid minutes

 

[earlsta]

Would be crazy !

Also reckon both end up playing good mid minutes

It would be scary, I’m gonna be going to the majority of the Sandy games this year and I honestly think he will shoot past Ashcroft.

 

[StonesThrow]

Wouldn't mind a game breaker like Zac Bailey

33

Zac Bailey

Age

25

Ht

182cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.7

3star

K

6.9

3star

HB

5.9

4star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.2

4star

CL

0.9

3star

D

12.9

3star

K

7.3

3star

HB

5.6

3star

M

3.9

4star

T

2.4

3star

CL

0.7

3star

D

13.4

4star

K

6.6

3star

HB

6.8

5star

M

3.2

4star

T

2.8

5star

CL

0.6

3star

.

 

[Mutineer]

It would be scary, I’m gonna be going to the majority of the Sandy games this year and I honestly think he will shoot past Ashcroft.

You might not be so sure he shoots past teammate George Wardlaw when he resumes...

 

[Jeffcrowe]

Wouldn't mind a game breaker like Zac Bailey.

Yep Zac Bailey or Chad Warner type is something we could do with

Hewett is probably most like that it’s just that he’s either really good or not good at all

 

[Mr MysteryGuest]

If they can play football well like Soligo we won't care, its when they play like Gallucci, Jones and McHenry we'd get upset. Or a tall like McAsey.

Not really true though, there were complaints on draft night when picked Soligo and Taylor

 

[rabidcrow]

Not really true though, there were complaints on draft night when picked Soligo and Taylor

But that was in the context of already picking McHenry Jones Rowe Parnell in the prior two years. All around 176-180. Even Rachele at 180 earlier in the same draft. That’s lots of 180cm in a very short time


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[Bazz_27]

Cal Twomey's Phantom Form Guide: Top draft prospects' July ranking - Cal Twomey's Phantom Form Guide: Top draft prospects' July ranking

 

[Jeffcrowe]

Cal Twomey's Phantom Form Guide: Top draft prospects' July ranking - Cal Twomey's Phantom Form Guide: Top draft prospects' July ranking

Damn - got a feeling Twomey has been talking to clubs who rate Max Michaelanney v highly

Disaster if he got bid on before our 2nd pick

Got a feeling our first pick will be Tsatas v Phillipou . Happy with either

 

[Peter Doherty]

Damn - got a feeling Twomey has been talking to clubs who rate Max Michaelanney v highly

Disaster if he got bid on before our 2nd pick

Got a feeling our first pick will be Tsatas v Phillipou . Happy with either

Better than having NGAs/father sons that no one is interested in that early.

 

[Jeffcrowe]

Better than having NGAs/father sons that no one is interested in that early.

True , just hope we get our 2nd pick in before a bid comes in

 

[FullyBigKPro]

Tsatsas or Philipou would be great gets going by Twomeys form guide. I really don't want Port getting Phillipou at pick 8/9 etc.

Sheezel in the same forward line as Rachele would be a dream too, would mean we can get rid of one of Murphy/Rowe/*MChenry too.

Will be very interesting to see who WC pick.

 

[George Kramer]

Not really true though, there were complaints on draft night when picked Soligo and Taylor

Rabidcrow answered that but the feelings on draft night are irrelevant, how many complaints you hearing now about picking Soligo and Taylor? We just want good players and a proper midfield mix.

 

[DaKids]

True , just hope we get our 2nd pick in before a bid comes in

Interesting to see Keeler not make that 25 list. I wonder where he sits at the moment.

 

[Jars458]

Rabidcrow answered that but the feelings on draft night are irrelevant, how many complaints you hearing now about picking Soligo and Taylor? We just want good players and a proper midfield mix.

Not convinced on Soligo at all. Time will tell.

 

[walterhobbs]

Interesting to see Keeler not make that 25 list. I wonder where he sits at the moment.

Hopefully 41st

 

[George Kramer]

Not convinced on Soligo at all. Time will tell.

What? Why? He just seems a natural

 

[NSolis]

Interesting to see Keeler not make that 25 list. I wonder where he sits at the moment.

The bits I've seen of him he looked a fair way off honestly. Definitely has some serious athletic ability but his ball use wasn't great in the carnival games. Would be great if we got lucky and he dropped to 41+...

 

[Jeffcrowe]

Interesting to see Keeler not make that 25 list. I wonder where he sits at the moment.

Very interesting ! I think his last 2 champs games cost him a spot

Started brightly against metro then disappeared in poor conditions but then only had 3 possessions against WA

I reckon a club takes a punt on him late teens but fingers crossed he gets past pick 40 ( longshot)

 

[FullyBigKPro]

Soligo? the same Soligo at pick 36 that's played about 10 games and averaging 18ish disposals, can kick goals and looks better than most of our first round picks?

Think he will be fine.

 

[Jeffcrowe]

The bits I've seen of him he looked a fair way off honestly. Definitely has some serious athletic ability but his ball use wasn't great in the carnival games. Would be great if we got lucky and he dropped to 41+...

His kicking / ball use is v good , he started champs with multiple goals a couple of times but faded last 2 games

He kicked a 55m set shot goal against WA which was 1 of 3 possessions for the day

He just lacks a bit of competiveness at times and doesn’t stay in the game

 

[DaKids]

His kicking / ball use is v good , he started champs with multiple goals a couple of times but faded last 2 games

He kicked a 55m set shot goal against WA which was 1 of 3 possessions for the day

He just lacks a bit of competiveness at times and doesn’t stay in the game

I think that’s right. I watched him last year in an 18’s game where he was matched up on Max. Competitiveness of both boys was at opposite ends of the scale. I wonder about his fitness too. Combine could be interesting for him

 

[Big Crow]

Cal Twomey's Phantom Form Guide: Top draft prospects' July ranking - Cal Twomey's Phantom Form Guide: Top draft prospects' July ranking

That description of Jhye Clark has Hamish draft prospect written all over him, except he’s rated inside the top 5 that is.