List Mgmt. 2022 AFL Draft Discussion

[Scorpus]

Our draft haul:

Pick 17 - Max Michalanney (matched F/S)
Pick 43 - Billy Dowling
Pick 50 - Hugh Bond

Rookie Pick 5 - Andrew McPherson

36

Andrew Mcpherson

Age

25

Ht

187cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.5

3star

K

6.0

2star

HB

4.5

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.5

3star

MG

118.5

2star

D

10.5

3star

K

6.0

2star

HB

4.5

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.5

2star

MG

118.5

2star

D

10.5

3star

K

6.0

3star

HB

4.5

4star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.5

4star

MG

118.5

2star

(re-listed)
Rookie Pick 21 - Paul Seedsman

11

Paul Seedsman

Age

32

Ht

190cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.3

5star

K

10.7

4star

HB

7.6

5star

M

3.9

4star

T

2.9

4star

CL

1.5

4star

D

15.8

4star

K

8.2

3star

HB

7.6

4star

M

2.4

3star

T

4.4

5star

CL

1.8

4star

D

19.8

5star

K

14.0

5star

HB

5.8

4star

M

4.4

4star

T

2.6

4star

CL

1.4

4star

(re-listed)

 

[Golumless]

Is there a rule which mandates drafting players. For example, if a team traded in players using all their draft picks.

I understand the senior list must turnover by three each year but is the draft compulsory in doing that?

At the moment, yes, a team needs to take three draft picks (either senior, pre-season or rookie picks).

 

[beagle2]

I'm unclear what you mean.
Are you saying a club must go to the draft or could refresh their list in other ways?

Must take three picks but rookie upgrades count as picks Rookie selections don’t count We have two compusary upgrades this year so must take one pick

 

[Mutineer]

State Combine Invitees. announced..

2022 STATE DRAFT COMBINE LIST​

Jakob	Anderson	VM	Sandringham Dragons
Yuyu	Ashwin	VM	Oakleigh Chargers
Charlie	Barnett	VC	Bendigo Pioneers
Josh	Bennetts	VM	Eastern Ranges
Shaun	Bennier	SA	North Adelaide
Kane	Bevan	WA	West Perth
Kaelan	Bradtke	NSW/ACT	Sydney Swans VFL
Jackson	Broadbent	WA	Peel Thunder
Taj	Campbell-Farrell	VC	Dandenong Stingrays
Jack	Cleaver	WA	East Fremantle
Ted	Clohesy	VC	Geelong Falcons
Jayden	Davey	VM/ NT	Oakleigh Chargers
Josh	Draper	WA	Peel Thunder
Darcy	Edmends	VM	Northern Knights
Will	Edwards	NSW/ACT	Sydney Swans Academy
Will	Elliott	VM	Oakleigh Chargers
Finn	Emile-Brennan	VC	Dandenong Stingrays
Tom	Emmett	SA	Sturt
Harry	Flynn	VM	Eastern Ranges
Felix	Fogaty	VC	GWV Rebels
Harvey	Gallagher	VC	Bendigo Pioneers
Darcy	Gilbert	VM	Sandringham Dragons
Cooper	Harvey	VM	Northern Knights
Jamie	Hope	VM	Sandringham Dragons
Griff	Julian	WA	West Perth
Michael	Kiraly	VC	Bendigo Pioneers
Oscar	Kregar	SA	West Adelaide
Jerome	Lawrence	VM	Oakleigh Chargers
Brandon	Leary	TAS	Tasmania Devils
Brinn	Little	QLD	Gold Coast Suns Academy
Archie	Lovelock	SA	Glenelg
Baynen	Lowe	SA	Norwood
Bailey	Macdonald	VM	Oakleigh Chargers
Kyle	Marshall	SA	South Adelaide
Bailey	Maxwell	WA	East Perth
Connor	McDonald	WA	Perth
Toby	McQuilkin	WA	South Fremantle
Darcy	Minchella	SA	West Adelaide
Rhett	Montgomerie	SA	Central District
Oscar	Murdoch	VC	Geelong Falcons
Hugo	Nosiara	VC	Dandenong Stingrays
Hudson	O'Keeffe	VM	Oakleigh Chargers
Cameron	Owen	TAS	Tasmania Devils
Paul	Pascu	VM	Calder Cannons
Matthew	Payne	VM	Western Jets
Rye	Penny	VM	Calder Cannons
Jovan	Petric	VM	Western Jets
Baxter	Philip	WA	Perth
Osca	Riccardi	VC	Geelong Falcons
Christopher	Rousakis	VM	Sandringham Dragons
Kobe	Ryan	SA	West Adelaide
Jasper	Scaife	WA	West Perth
Lachlan	Scannell	SA	Glenelg
Jonti	Schuback	VC	Gippsland Power
Nathan	Scollo	VM	Sandringham Dragons
Kaleb	Smith	WA	East Fremantle
Oscar	Steene	SA	West Adelaide
Frank	Szekely	SA	North Adelaide
Beau	Tedcastle	NT/VC	GWV Rebels
Ziggy	Toledo	VC	Dandenong Stingrays
Brodie	Tuck	SA	Central District
Clay	Tucker	VM	Eastern Ranges
Callum	Verrell	VM	Eastern Ranges
Jake	Walker	SA	Glenelg
Conrad	Williams	WA	Claremont
Kai	Windsor	VM	Eastern Ranges

 

[Mutineer]

To quote Shane Crawford "That's What I'm Talkin' About"

Jeffcrowe Danger in Texas WaynesWorld19

 

[George Kramer]

To quote Shane Crawford "That's What I'm Talkin' About"

Jeffcrowe Danger in Texas WaynesWorld19

Impressive, where’s he expected to go

 

[Mutineer]

Impressive, where’s he expected to go

Good question....I've rated him for 2 years now, not spoken about much this year with a late start to the season with groin issues and playing mostly forward until he got up to full fitness and only played the last Nationals game. Was probably late/rookie up until 6 weeks ago only because of lack of exposure but he's been absolutely dominating the last few weeks. Could go as high as the 2nd round because if he stays fit he'll light up the Combine and this is a draft light on for rucks especially with his athleticism.

 

[jackster83]

To quote Shane Crawford "That's What I'm Talkin' About"

Jeffcrowe Danger in Texas WaynesWorld19

It's definitely time we invested in a developing ruck, instead of continually sifting through the hard rubbish piles on the side of the road.

 

[George Kramer]

It's definitely time we invested in a developing ruck, instead of continually sifting through the hard rubbish piles on the side of the road.

It’s a must given ROBs age and mixed form

 

[Jeffcrowe]

Impressive, where’s he expected to go

It’s a funny one

All the rage is that Harry Barnett from westies will go late 1st round - early 2nd round

I think Verall is a better AFL ruck in future than Barnett

He got invited to National combine so I think he’s formed from rookie pick , to late draft and now maybe even 3rd round

Maybe even earlier than that given he’s getting better each week having returned from injury just over a month ago

 

[Jeffcrowe]

Good question....I've rated him for 2 years now, not spoken about much this year with a late start to the season with groin issues and playing mostly forward until he got up to full fitness and only played the last Nationals game. Was probably late/rookie up until 6 weeks ago only because of lack of exposure but he's been absolutely dominating the last few weeks. Could go as high as the 2nd round because if he stays fit he'll light up the Combine and this is a draft light on for rucks especially with his athleticism.

That vision demonstrates he has better vertical leap and ruck skill in centre bounce than Barnett too

And football talent in general with his around the ground work

 

[WaynesWorld19]

The reasons why No.1 pick should be on trade table​

If North Melbourne, as expected, holds the No.1 pick by the end of this weekend, the Kangaroos should be putting it on the table and see what's up for grabs. There are several factors why.

Should North bid – it would be very hard not to this year – they have options. Do they stay at pick No.2 and take George Wardlaw, who has been viewed as the other leading contender for the top pick? Or do they look to turn the selection into multiple picks, splitting it and making a brave call to turn one great pick into more very good ones?

The complicating factor with Wardlaw is his lack of games this season. Many recruiters still believe he could be the best player out of the pool: the midfielder is tough, explosive and a game-breaker who has been best afield in his two biggest games this season (for Oakleigh against Sandringham in round one of the NAB League season and for the NAB AFL Academy against Collingwood's VFL side in May).

Can No.1 (which would become No.2 after a bid) be turned into two top-10 picks? Would it be worth the Roos shifting back a few spots, taking one of Elijah Tsatas, Jhye Clark or Cam Mackenzie as their midfielder or half-forward Harry Sheezel and seeing if they can take a second early selection?

Last year North Melbourne rejected big back-to-back bids for the No.1 choice from Adelaide and Melbourne as it was locked in on Jason Horne-Francis. This time around, as the Roos make a play for an assistance package of priority picks, they should see what's on offer.

 

[Betts are off]

To quote Shane Crawford "That's What I'm Talkin' About"

Jeffcrowe Danger in Texas WaynesWorld19

He got 6 clearances by tapping the ball to himself or taking it out of the ruck!

The poor oppo ruckman looked like he was playing checkers and Verral was playing 3D chess!

 

[Danger in Texas]

To quote Shane Crawford "That's What I'm Talkin' About"

Jeffcrowe Danger in Texas WaynesWorld19

Not sure if we'll be able to grab him late. He's a top 30-ish prospect, for mine

That follow-up work is quality

 

[Mutineer]

Not sure if we'll be able to grab him late. He's a top 30-ish prospect, for mine

That follow-up work is quality

But he's hardly rated a mention on Big Footy apart from me? I've stuck thick all the way through his ups and downs.

 

[Danger in Texas]

But he's hardly rated a mention on Big Footy apart from me? I've stuck thick all the way through his ups and downs.

Yep full credit, could end up like Willis last year (another of your faves) where he gets selected ahead of a bunch of more hyped SA prospects

 

[Mutineer]

Yep full credit, could end up like Willis last year (another of your faves) where he gets selected ahead of a bunch of more hyped SA prospects

That Oppo ruck he was pushing around there Jayden Matz is no pushover either, one of the better 2023 ruck prospects and already a U18 squad member this year.

Central's have a couple worth keeping an eye on next year Matz and lively little mid Trent Tattoli also already an U18 squad member this year.

 

[maxlilly]

It’s a funny one

All the rage is that Harry Barnett from westies will go late 1st round - early 2nd round

I think Verall is a better AFL ruck in future than Barnett

He got invited to National combine so I think he’s formed from rookie pick , to late draft and now maybe even 3rd round

Maybe even earlier than that given he’s getting better each week having returned from injury just over a month ago

I prefer Barnett over Verrall
A bit taller and more athletic and versatile

 

[Mr_Moogle]

It's definitely time we invested in a developing ruck, instead of continually sifting through the hard rubbish piles on the side of the road.

It's baffling that we don't seem to be even trying to improve our ruck situation. Clarke has been ruck coach for bloody ages too. Time for a fresh set of eyes imo. Let Clarke go full time with the womens side.

 

[Mutineer]

I prefer Barnett over Verrall
A bit taller and more athletic and versatile

More athletic and versatile?

I've seen plenty of both , Will Verrall is an athletic beast and looks pretty bloody good when played up forward as well

In all likelihood you'll have to pony up a fair bit more draft collateral for Barnett simply because he's had more exposure in their top age year.

 

[maxlilly]

More athletic and versatile?

I've seen plenty of both , Will Verrall is an athletic beast and looks pretty bloody good when played up forward as well

In all likelihood you'll have to pony up a fair bit more draft collateral for Barnett simply because he's had more exposure in their top age year.

I'm happy to use a better draft pick once every 10 years for a better ruckman,

 

[Jeffcrowe]

I prefer Barnett over Verrall
A bit taller and more athletic and versatile

Not more athletic in centre bounce , Verrall has him covered from what I’ve seen and that’s with limited fitness

 

[Mutineer]

17year old Patrick Weckert on debut for WWT SANFL League team on the weekend.

 

[Gtowncrow]

It's baffling that we don't seem to be even trying to improve our ruck situation. Clarke has been ruck coach for bloody ages too. Time for a fresh set of eyes imo. Let Clarke go full time with the womens side.

I'm keen on refreshing people in their positions once they start to look stale.
Clarke however has been very good for us. Afterall, he took a tall bloke who could run and turned him into an AFL ruckmen. Pretty good considering that bloke has zero football talent (or even average coordination).

Rielly O'Brien should be forever grateful for the coaching of Doc Clarke.

 

[Mutineer]

I'm keen on refreshing people in their positions once they start to look stale.
Clarke however has been very good for us. Afterall, he took a tall bloke who could run and turned him into an AFL ruckmen. Pretty good considering that bloke has zero football talent (or even average coordination).

Rielly O'Brien should be forever grateful for the coaching of Doc Clarke.

Let's face it Doc has never been given a decent young ruckman to work with and mould. Rookies, basketballers or the last one Strachan was grabbed out of the Bendigo Football League after a few games in the now defunct VFL Development League basically the VFL reserves. Luke Lowden and Angus Graham another couple of list cloggers we recruited..

 

[Eagleboy2011]

17year old Patrick Weckert on debut for WWT SANFL League team on the weekend.

I believe not draft eligible until 2023. DOB 23/01/2005