List Mgmt. 2022 List Management and trading thread
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After watching Sunday's game on replay (well about 3/4 of it) ... it reminded me this is what a proper rebuild is about.
Adding talent from higher draft picks.
Bringing in talent through trades and free-agency.
Finding talent where you didn't realise it was.
And really really important - Replacing potential that has not delivered.
We have a bunch of young players that have probably shown enough that the next 10 or so weeks will start to solidify their position in or out of the team ... and a few that we can start actively moving to the "back to the SANFL" category.
Imo, after Round 1 2022, our 22 and unders:
Better options on our list.
Hately (16) - definition of unrealised potential
Jones (38) - I'm not sure if he can establish himself in the 22 long term. He is not a midfielder. He panics on the hb flank. We do not need him up forward or on the wing. Getting a bit hard to bend the team to find a spot for him imo.
McPherson (26) - Just not reliable enough.
Showed enough
Berry (17)
Butts (25)
Cook (3)
Fogarty (41)
Gollant (1)
Hamill (25)
McHenry (30)
Murray (11)
Pedlar (2)
Rachele (1)
Rowe (19)
Shoenberg (31)
Sholl (27)
Soligo (1)
Strachan (3)
Thilthorpe (15)
More time needed - watch this space
Borlase (0)
McAsey (10) - big guys need more time?
Nankervis (0)
Newchurch (0)
Parnell (0)
Taylor (0)
Worrell (1)
Of the over 22s that I'm putting / keeping in the SANFL as "break glass" options:
Himmelberg (28) - Sorry, lots to like but does not take enough marks / kick enough goals / positive influence on contests for his position.
Davis (6) - Don't know, he has some great qualities - good to have on your list, but not best 22
Frampton (18) - cheap backup
Thoughts?
Adding talent from higher draft picks.
Bringing in talent through trades and free-agency.
Finding talent where you didn't realise it was.
And really really important - Replacing potential that has not delivered.
We have a bunch of young players that have probably shown enough that the next 10 or so weeks will start to solidify their position in or out of the team ... and a few that we can start actively moving to the "back to the SANFL" category.
Imo, after Round 1 2022, our 22 and unders:
Better options on our list.
Hately (16) - definition of unrealised potential
Jones (38) - I'm not sure if he can establish himself in the 22 long term. He is not a midfielder. He panics on the hb flank. We do not need him up forward or on the wing. Getting a bit hard to bend the team to find a spot for him imo.
McPherson (26) - Just not reliable enough.
Showed enough
Berry (17)
Butts (25)
Cook (3)
Fogarty (41)
Gollant (1)
Hamill (25)
McHenry (30)
Murray (11)
Pedlar (2)
Rachele (1)
Rowe (19)
Shoenberg (31)
Sholl (27)
Soligo (1)
Strachan (3)
Thilthorpe (15)
More time needed - watch this space
Borlase (0)
McAsey (10) - big guys need more time?
Nankervis (0)
Newchurch (0)
Parnell (0)
Taylor (0)
Worrell (1)
Of the over 22s that I'm putting / keeping in the SANFL as "break glass" options:
Himmelberg (28) - Sorry, lots to like but does not take enough marks / kick enough goals / positive influence on contests for his position.
Davis (6) - Don't know, he has some great qualities - good to have on your list, but not best 22
Frampton (18) - cheap backup
Thoughts?
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Also Max as a 17 year old is 194cm needs to fill out and going by dad's build he should - Jack has grown up with a football and has had to compete with the older brothers should be promising.
Good write up. I am a huge fan of Jones but if he can’t become a good regular player, it will be hard to keep him. He has all the tools to become good but he hasn’t.
The rest are spot on and can see your thoughts on the rest
Murphy and Hately are contracted for 2023.
I don’t see why Walker would retire, he played some of the best football of his career just last year. I’m hoping he plays another 2-3 years.
I like Bailey Dale as a FA but it half back isn’t a great area to sink more investment into. If he could play to his strengths on a wing would be a great Seed replacement.
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It's not too far off from where I'd have it (though including Strachan is a stretch), though I'd probably break shown enough into "core players" and likely "role players". After all the first game is to find a core to build around and finding good role players is a bonus.
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I reckon that we can't rely on getting talented players through trades/FA (assuming talented means potentially elite players like Rachele/Tilly/...) - except in rare occasions when talented players want to come home to SA for some reason (eg. Dawson).
Any other non-Adelaide born players wanting to change clubs most likely want to go home to their home states - I'll change my mind when we manage to get an elite one to come here via trade/FA.
I fear for Hamills health. I think he should start wearing a helmet, as it may at least offer some protection.
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i’d class most picks after 40 as massive speculators.. odds are very high that you are gonna end up with a fail many more times than you will a win.. sure, there is diamonds in the rough from pick 40 onwards but they are rare.
thus you could easily class picks above 40 as “junk” type value picks.. speculators.
now, if we then say that the trade value we’d get for ROB was around pick 30-40… and it actually seems that you yourself have been insinuating to other posters in here that that is around ROB’s value in response to their claim we’d get around a first rounder for him… then thats just above junk value then isnt it.
geezus you get so defensive when someone writes something you dont want to hear in relation to our players…
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I love how many people have jumped off Jones after a couple of bad first half disposals.
It shows how ridiculously knee jerk this board is.
(Cue: "I never rated him" etc etc)
It shows how ridiculously knee jerk this board is.
(Cue: "I never rated him" etc etc)
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My opinion -
PROBABLES
McPherson
Jones
Butts
Cook
Pedlar
Rachele
McHenry
Shoenberg
Thilthorpe
Soligo
Taylor
POSSIBLES
Hately
Fogarty
Gollant
Murray
Rowe
Sholl
McAsey
Nankervis
Parnell
Berry
UNLIKELY
Hamill
Strachan
Borlase
Newchurch
Worrell
PROBABLES
McPherson
Jones
Butts
Cook
Pedlar
Rachele
McHenry
Shoenberg
Thilthorpe
Soligo
Taylor
POSSIBLES
Hately
Fogarty
Gollant
Murray
Rowe
Sholl
McAsey
Nankervis
Parnell
Berry
UNLIKELY
Hamill
Strachan
Borlase
Newchurch
Worrell
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I love how you can put it down and to a couple of bad first half disposals.
It shows how ridiculous the club ambassadors on this board are.
Not at all but there is worry if he will make it now. This wasnt just one bad game, the last year and a bit has to be concerning. If he doesn’t make it at half back, where to then.
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He looked very good the last third of last year.
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Yep, had two bad kicks in the first half. Improved in the second.
Had some good handballs in close and offered a lot of contested pressure.
But I guess the kneejerkers have gotta jerk.
Haven't seen any club ambassadors around here. Just a mix of some people who are showing patience with a group of kids, and other who whinged for a rebuild for years and now are whinging that it doesn't happen overnight.
You would think there wouldn't be too much difference between a pick 6 and a pick 9 but after just one AFL match there appears a world of difference if you look at Rachele and Jones.
Not having Campo and Godden teaching in you 1st couple of seasons is also a difference
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Whoosh.
I’m not talking about one game. His preseason was average. His career to date has been very average. This is fourth year, he’s not a kid no more and we paid a high price for him, if you’re content with this then that’s on you, you’re not in a position to criticise others when you clearly have no clue why posters are frustrated with him and it ain’t a great bad kicks.
That game against west coast was outstanding but we need more from Jones. Has all the tools to become a star. For our sake, I hope he doesn’t waste that talent and become an average player
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I played rugby with a helmet thinking it would stop concussions sadly they do dick all for concussions, they stop some of the scrapes and cuts but thats all. The issue is that it doesnt stop the brain bouncing around. Also for people who have had lots of concussions general body hits can exasperate concussions. So its a delicate line to walk
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Concussion can be caused by body hits too
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