Preview 2022 Round 3 Carlton vs Hawthorn Sunday April 3rd 1.10PM @ MCG - Team Post #1413

[4flagsin5yrs]

durdin durdin sign a contract extension today? he'll celebrate with four on sunday....

till end of 2023.

 

[Stamos]

till end of 2023.

2024

 

[thylacine60]

You're giving me far too much credit here. I just hear a few interesting stats and regurgitate them every now and then. If I said 6 (based on absolutely nothing) would you believe me?

of course not

 

[Pinnell]

The Hawks should screenshot their % and save it - its going to be obliterated come Sunday evening.

 

[JustaBattler]

Hawthorn's spread from HBF was impressive against Port- but was more impressive was the acres of vacant space in the forward fifty that they structured up for- each Port defender was isolated in Q3/4 producing one on ones with Gunstan and Breust in particular - Lewis is a fast developing and impressive full forward who was kicking them from everywhere and what made it work was hard running leg speed all over the place.

It is an attacking game style that worked last week against a Port team that was forced into being fumbly and bumbly.

If Hawthorn can repeat their run against Calton's midfield- the game will be an absolute cracker.

 

[bmaurizio]

Do yourself a favor and head over the the Hawks board. Summary of the conversation so far:

• They have our mids covered,
• Weitering is vulnerable 1:1 and hear goal,
• Their tall fwds are ahead of ours (they have kick more goals in 2022).

It's going to be an interesting week.

Certainly interesting points made on the Hawks board, but the Dills are underestimating our atomic weapons though, Cripps & Walsh, whilst Kennedy, Cerra & Hewitt keep them busy, they wont know whats hit them.

 

[4flagsin5yrs]

2024

yes, my bad. you're right!

 

[Blues_Man]

It was a great win against the Doggies sans Cerra and Martin with McDonald out of play at half time (but injured before the call was made) Plowman was no replacement for McDonald and the defensive stucture saw McGovern forced to rejig his prime role- as interceptor to stopper. Against Hawthorn Carlton lack of a strong body to play 2nd KPD (if McDonald is absent) can be exposed to the height of Hawthorn - and that is Hawthorn's big opportunity in this match - up forward.

So Voss has this week to sort out the tall match ups against Hawthorn's group - to me that is the #1 challenge.

If the midfield group works better with the inclusion of extra run and class in Cerra I think it should be hard for Hawthorn to match it with Carlton for 4 quarters.

If Hawthorn are good enough to force kick and hope up and under entries - that will be gifting them way too much. On rebound - they aren' going to run the ball up the guts as much as probe the boundaries to find space. I think tempo and the ability to hold and own possession will be very important in this game.

Will be a fascinating match up of coaches and game plans - different challenges to meet.

The need to win it out of the middle will be super important in this Game

 

[Aphrodite]

On ML I said be dominant. Which in what I’m trying to say may not be by goals all the time but dominating him bringing it to ground all the time for example. Leading hard and finding space. Flying at marks.

I don’t relate Gov to one on ones I just don’t rate him in that way, he reads the play well but he runs off too much.

Yeah and I’d suspect you wouldn’t either to an extent. They can be good but are by far better offensive players.

So if Gov goes to Gunston, will Gunston kick 20??????????

 

[JustaBattler]

The need to win it out of the middle will be super important in this Game

CB clearances have always been important - but now the evidence is pretty much in - teams who dominate these tend to win games. Around the ground midfield contest just as important of course - but CB with 6/6/6 rule gives a big advantage to leading forwards.

Mitchell rope a doped Port in that game- false flagging stacked defensive press and Port allowed far too much space out the back for harder running flankers and each way HFFers from Hawthorn.

Why Hinkley didn't play a spare man interceptor is beyond me.

 

[Blues_Man]

Hawthorn's spread from HBF was impressive against Port- but was more impressive was the acres of vacant space in the forward fifty that they structured up for- each Port defender was isolated in Q3/4 producing one on ones with Gunstan and Breust in particular - Lewis is a fast developing and impressive full forward who was kicking them from everywhere and what made it work was hard running leg speed all over the place.

It is an attacking game style that worked last week against a Port team that was forced into being fumbly and bumbly.

If Hawthorn can repeat their run against Calton's midfield- the game will be an absolute cracker.

Port were complete garbage though

 

[F_therest]

Hawthorn move the ball on quickly from defence. 46 Inside 50's for 19 goals.

I thought port would of benefitted from a floating defender; that and poor kicking in front of goal IMO.

No doubt we'll do a better job at being goal side and have a loose man to stop that easy transition they got against Port.

 

[The Blue Weirdo]

Hawthorn's spread from HBF was impressive against Port-

If our small pressure forwards are on, and choke them. We'll beat these jokers easy.
Carlton by 30 points.

 

[F_therest]

Important to note that the Hawks kicked 9 goals from attacks started from within their defensive 50 against Port. That might be an inditement on port but its something that we need to keep an eye on.

Not sure that we have a natural match up for gunstan. Not sure that it's within Mitch's wheelhouse to sacrifice the offensive nature of his game. Might nearly play weiters on him and omac/young for Mitch Lewis.

We sort both of those things out and I think that we win.

McEvoy spending time forward too with Neeves rucking...and he's good in the air and quite accurate kicking for goal.

So McEvoy/Lewis/Gunston are their 3 talls.

Weitering will go to Lewis.

On size, OMac/Young to McEvoy makes sense, with the more mobile Gov on Gunston. The issue with that is Gunston is the most experienced and dangerous forward out of that group, so it's a risk putting Gov on him given he's our interceptor and also it's his 3rd game in defence. But I think that's how we'll have to go.

 

[Robertio]

If our small pressure forwards are on, and choke them. We'll beat these jokers easy.
Carlton by 30 points.

Get it right mate, 32 points.

 

[TheCoach16]

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Sorry folks. We didn't have anybody to do a preview this week and I thought I would do it myself at late notice, but I really don't have the brain capacity right now.

Obviously the Hawks are in surprisingly good form and Sam Mitchell has them up and about and playing for him. Similarly, we are up and about and playing for Voss.

On paper, we are all over this one. We play a brutal contested game and the Hawks don't exactly have an abundance of pace in the midfield so head to head in the clearances, I fancy our chances. Cripps, Kennedy, Hewett, Walsh, Cerra vs Mitchell, O'Meara, young Ward, Newcombe and Nash. Realistically we should be smashing them in that contest, just on body size alone.

The Hawks have been playing a possession game and relying on Mitch Lewis and Jack Gunston up forward. Weitering should take Lewis and Gov is the man for Gunston aerially and pace wise. This leaves McDonald or Young if Oscar doesn't come up, to take the resting ruck. It looks like Zac Williams will get the job on Wingard with Saad and Moore to go head to head as well.

At the other end the Hawks are going to have headaches with Frost likely to take Big H and Sicily to take Charlie. Young Grainger-Barras will have the job on our resting ruck and I'm giving TDK a huge advantage here.

My biggest concern is complacency. We are expected to win unlike the last two weeks, which means it is going to be harder to stay motivated. If we go into the game thinking we will win, we will surely lose. We don't have a great record against the Hawks over the past decade or so, and we owe them a thrashing or 10.

This game more than the previous two will show whether we have the killer instinct that will last us for most of the season. Have we stored up enough hurt to be determined not to lose any game? I know the supporters have.

Blues by 40

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Wouldn’t worry too much about complacency with Voss in charge.
Can’t remember who the Brisbane player was, but in an interview about the Lion’s 2003 premiership, he said that with about three or four minutes left in the game, the Lions kicked a goal that put them about 50 points up.
The story goes, that by the time the ball had been returned to the middle, Voss had gotten around to every single teammate to tell them they DO NOT stop now! To KEEP GOING!

If true, I’d say complacency is the last thing we need to worry about.

I’m more worried about the Hawks themselves. They looked really good on the weekend. I still think we’ll beat them, but I’m slightly less confident than I was playing Richmond or the Dogs.

Should be a ripper, I reckon. Carlton by 4 goals.

 

[COBALT BLUE]

The Hawks should screenshot their % and save it - its going to be obliterated come Sunday evening.

No
nevermind percentage....no need to go too far
Its early days for our system in a potential honey moon situation
proceed cautiously.....eliminating every enemy efficiently with focal intensity should be all thats required
i dont care if Carlton wins by one goal......

 

[Thrawn]

While people point out the Port game, just remember that they struggled to put away North.

 

[ParapMarkets]

They never change, talking about how we're going to stop some bloke called Nash and Jiath?

Jiath is a genuine young gun of the league, he is definitely a player that we need to put some time into.

They are rebuilding, but they have a solid experienced core that is far better than what we had back in 2016/17/18. Mitchell, O’Meara, Sicily, Wingard, Gunston, Breust, McEvoy. We deserve to be favourites, but if we aren’t switched on we will lose.

 

[Pinnell]

No
nevermind percentage....no need to go too far
Its early days for our system in a potential honey moon situation
proceed cautiously.....eliminating every enemy efficiently with focal intensity should be all thats required
i dont care if Carlton wins by one goal......

I do. I want to smash them. And I reckon we will. Their midfield cannot compete. And our small forwards won’t allow any rebound from defence. Smashing coming up

 

[Red_man2008]

Do we have the best midfield group from the last 30 years running around right now. I recall Simpson Murphy Gibbs Carrazzo and Kreuzer being our best. This group is insane. Hawthorn will give up the centre all game according to what port did. But we have Charlie TDK and McKay to kick to. If we ensure we leave a spare behind the ball. Maybe pitto sits about 60-70 out while McGovern covers the other wing. We should win by 10+ goals. If they allow our midfield that much dominance and that many inside 50s it’s a sure thing.

 

[Benaly28]

Fair enough, but who do you take out. These are the sort of changes that get made when you're a top team. Fair enough is not necessarily good enough.

Fogarty 100%
Plowman obviously
Newman for me.


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[SHOWEY]

Just checking in...lid off yet?

 

[thylacine60]

 

[TazHawk15]

While people point out the Port game, just remember that they struggled to put away North.

That’s not fair.

The WCE also struggled against North.