List Mgmt. 2022 Trade & List Management Thread III

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Kanga Glory said:
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Journalists and posters annoy me with the “North could have done this better thing” routine - I’m pretty sure after six+ days of discussions the various list managers had worked through the possibilities. Also there’s at least as much chance Port, GWS and WC fans have reason to regret these trade choices in the next few years as there is of us doing it.
Mind you, I eventually muted one especially whiny North supporter on Twitter last night, some of us will find the negative in everything.

The main strong point Ralph makes is that now it’s up to our development to make the most of the talent we are about to bring in to minimise regret.

I’m with KC, we got our money back plus a little returning Horne-Francis in the warranty period. He was never going to reach his potential with us, and now whether he does it somewhere else or not is irrelevant.
 

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Draft FOMO: Why next year could be a hell ride for Roos​


Jon Ralph


North Melbourne believes it maximised its return for Jason Horne-Francis, but Jon Ralph has his doubts. Next season will be a roller-coaster ride for Kangaroos fans.

Last year's number one pick Jason Horne-Francis and Junior Rioli are officially Port Adelaide players, while GWS now has the top selection for this year's draft.

Greater Western Sydney moved heaven and earth as part of Monday’s mega trade to secure the No.1 pick that will allow them to draft the brilliant left-footed Darley key position star.

North Melbourne believed the decision to cut their losses, in effect turning two high picks (Horne-Francis and this year’s No.1) into picks two, three and a Port Adelaide future first-rounder, was a no-brainer.

With a list that probably needs six-eight more players, why not take two brilliant midfielders and then secure the Power 2023 first rounder to ensure they can cash in on an even stronger draft?

The problem for North Melbourne fans — and former players slowly getting used to mediocrity — is that all of a sudden they have a huge case of FOMO.

Their next 12 months could be a hell ride watching the bloke they overlooked dominate, the bloke who left them turn into a star and the extra pick they received from Port Adelaide shrink by the week.

An exercise in turning Horne-Francis’ departure into a vast trade fortune seems to have turned into them getting 75 cents on the dollar.

The Roos said on Monday they had maximised their return by securing the extra first-round selection next year as they turned Horne-Francis and pick No.1 into selections two and three this year.

But they already had pick No.1 this year.

They could have played hardball with Port Adelaide to secure their pick No.8 and another top-12 selection for Horne-Francis.

They could then have traded for the Eagles’ pick No.2, giving them the top two picks in November’s draft without having to hand the first overall selection to the Giants.

If they missed on a Port Adelaide future first-rounder so be it, because they would have dominated this draft without the risk they missed on the best player by handing over the first live pick after the Lions matched a bid for Will Ashcroft.

Roos fans will genuinely fear Cadman turning into the hybrid of Jeremy Cameron and Harry McKay that recruiters believe he could be.

They will wonder why the Roos are so worried about taking key position players like Logan McDonald when blind Freddy can see they need another key position forward.

North Melbourne will point to the hit-or-miss strike rate of key position talls taken in the top 10 in recent years — think Denver Grainger Barrass or Fisher McAsey or Jack Lukosius.

But the problem for Roos fans is two-fold.

In theory the decision could be inspired if Cadman struggles early and the Roos get instant gratification from a pair like the explosive mid George Wardlaw and brilliant mid-forward Harry Sheezel, with two first rounders to come next year.

But a club that used to pull the wool over the eyes of rivals with heists on stars like Wayne Carey and John Longmire doesn’t exactly have the track record to be trusted in recent years.
Roos fans have grown used to watching some of these trades with their hands over their eyes, barely able to peek through their fingers.


Instead of taking the tall-small combination premiership star David King called for as he declared the Roos had been “dudded” on Fox Footy on Monday night, Roos fans will watch in 2023 aware Cadman has the tools to take the competition by storm.

They spend the year having handed Jason Horne-Francis to the Power, aware on his home turf he could emerge as a future champion of the game.

And if Port Adelaide roars up the ladder after this year’s dismal campaign their future first-rounder linked to the Power only diminishes in quality.

So it is up to Clarkson, or whoever runs their program next year, to ensure the development program is absolutely elite and turns their No. 2 and 3 picks into the stars they should be.

That they ensure Nick Larkey and Cam Zurhaar and Callum Coleman-Jones and Charlie Comben and Jacob Edwards turn into the key position force that means the Roos didn’t need Cadman.

And more to the point, that the Roos get their house in order and stop going through coaches as a yearly event so players like Horne-Francis don’t bolt at the first opportunity.
 
Knows how to rub it in.
 
travelli said:
People gotta calm down the hate a bit. He is a kid who was too young to leave his family. I'm not going to hate on him too much.

Just wish we got a bit more out of that trade.
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Naaah **** him.

He took a massive dump on our whole football club. That’s our rich history, us as members and supporters, every player who ever pulled on the royal blue and white and the current playing group.

May his career be mired in mediocrity and he never achieve the ultimate success on a football field.
 
giantroo said:

Draft FOMO: Why next year could be a hell ride for Roos​


Jon Ralph


North Melbourne believes it maximised its return for Jason Horne-Francis, but Jon Ralph has his doubts. Next season will be a roller-coaster ride for Kangaroos fans.

Last year's number one pick Jason Horne-Francis and Junior Rioli are officially Port Adelaide players, while GWS now has the top selection for this year's draft.

Greater Western Sydney moved heaven and earth as part of Monday’s mega trade to secure the No.1 pick that will allow them to draft the brilliant left-footed Darley key position star.

North Melbourne believed the decision to cut their losses, in effect turning two high picks (Horne-Francis and this year’s No.1) into picks two, three and a Port Adelaide future first-rounder, was a no-brainer.

With a list that probably needs six-eight more players, why not take two brilliant midfielders and then secure the Power 2023 first rounder to ensure they can cash in on an even stronger draft?

The problem for North Melbourne fans — and former players slowly getting used to mediocrity — is that all of a sudden they have a huge case of FOMO.

Their next 12 months could be a hell ride watching the bloke they overlooked dominate, the bloke who left them turn into a star and the extra pick they received from Port Adelaide shrink by the week.

An exercise in turning Horne-Francis’ departure into a vast trade fortune seems to have turned into them getting 75 cents on the dollar.

The Roos said on Monday they had maximised their return by securing the extra first-round selection next year as they turned Horne-Francis and pick No.1 into selections two and three this year.

But they already had pick No.1 this year.

They could have played hardball with Port Adelaide to secure their pick No.8 and another top-12 selection for Horne-Francis.

They could then have traded for the Eagles’ pick No.2, giving them the top two picks in November’s draft without having to hand the first overall selection to the Giants.

If they missed on a Port Adelaide future first-rounder so be it, because they would have dominated this draft without the risk they missed on the best player by handing over the first live pick after the Lions matched a bid for Will Ashcroft.

Roos fans will genuinely fear Cadman turning into the hybrid of Jeremy Cameron and Harry McKay that recruiters believe he could be.

They will wonder why the Roos are so worried about taking key position players like Logan McDonald when blind Freddy can see they need another key position forward.

North Melbourne will point to the hit-or-miss strike rate of key position talls taken in the top 10 in recent years — think Denver Grainger Barrass or Fisher McAsey or Jack Lukosius.

But the problem for Roos fans is two-fold.

In theory the decision could be inspired if Cadman struggles early and the Roos get instant gratification from a pair like the explosive mid George Wardlaw and brilliant mid-forward Harry Sheezel, with two first rounders to come next year.

But a club that used to pull the wool over the eyes of rivals with heists on stars like Wayne Carey and John Longmire doesn’t exactly have the track record to be trusted in recent years.
Roos fans have grown used to watching some of these trades with their hands over their eyes, barely able to peek through their fingers.


Instead of taking the tall-small combination premiership star David King called for as he declared the Roos had been “dudded” on Fox Footy on Monday night, Roos fans will watch in 2023 aware Cadman has the tools to take the competition by storm.

They spend the year having handed Jason Horne-Francis to the Power, aware on his home turf he could emerge as a future champion of the game.

And if Port Adelaide roars up the ladder after this year’s dismal campaign their future first-rounder linked to the Power only diminishes in quality.

So it is up to Clarkson, or whoever runs their program next year, to ensure the development program is absolutely elite and turns their No. 2 and 3 picks into the stars they should be.

That they ensure Nick Larkey and Cam Zurhaar and Callum Coleman-Jones and Charlie Comben and Jacob Edwards turn into the key position force that means the Roos didn’t need Cadman.

And more to the point, that the Roos get their house in order and stop going through coaches as a yearly event so players like Horne-Francis don’t bolt at the first opportunity.
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Such a BS article the point that everyone is missing is that HF was gone the day he was drafted, mummies boy was always heading home.
 
travelli said:
It's alright, but 4 midfielders again. Who is going to help our larkey? That's our need.

Please don't tell me chom. I can't take it.
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This. We'll collect a million midfielders and then burn 3-4 of them because they're not getting the development time in their preferred position.
 
I am glad we ended up with 2 + FF instead of 8 + FF and other flotsam. I think having 2 of Sheezel/Wardlaw/Tsatas and an extra first round next year gives us two really strong talented kids going into next year.

I like Cadman as well but for whatever reason our club doesn't rate him as highly.

I will lose my shit if we trade 3 down.
 
Themanbun said:
This. We'll collect a million midfielders and then burn 3-4 of them because they're not getting the development time in their preferred position.
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We need to draft someone ready to go. Mid, late 20s, doesn't need to be a star. Just big and strong who can take a hit and a mark and threaten in the forward line

CCJ could be that guy, but wants to ruck.
 
We've got room in the midfield. Ultimately, LDU, Phillips & Wardlaw seems on paper a ripping starting midfield, with Powell, Simpkin & Sheezle rotating through.

And they can learn for a couple of years under Cunners. Happy enough with the midfield we're building.

Next year has the better KPF's apparently, so I've no doubt we were looking at that with wanting Port's first next year.
 

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Orange Peanut said:
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Noticeable that neither journos nor
rival posters comment on the obvious relief that the rest of our playing group have publicly expressed that the bloke has gone; disrupts the narrative
 
travelli said:
It's alright, but 4 midfielders again. Who is going to help our larkey? That's our need.

Please don't tell me chom. I can't take it.
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Even if we took Cadman, he might not have been ready to play at AFL for 2 or 3 years. Swans have given McDonald games but he has been dead weight for a lot of the games, not sure how much he is helping or hindering Reid or Buddy.

When Wright was available, almost for free, I suggested us get him just for the short term, to have someone to contest. We really haven't taken any opportunity to give some immediate support with some cheap options. I mean, even Bruce or that donkey from Melbourne would be better than nothing.
 
 
giantroo said:

Draft FOMO: Why next year could be a hell ride for Roos​


Jon Ralph


North Melbourne believes it maximised its return for Jason Horne-Francis, but Jon Ralph has his doubts. Next season will be a roller-coaster ride for Kangaroos fans.

Last year's number one pick Jason Horne-Francis and Junior Rioli are officially Port Adelaide players, while GWS now has the top selection for this year's draft.

Greater Western Sydney moved heaven and earth as part of Monday’s mega trade to secure the No.1 pick that will allow them to draft the brilliant left-footed Darley key position star.

North Melbourne believed the decision to cut their losses, in effect turning two high picks (Horne-Francis and this year’s No.1) into picks two, three and a Port Adelaide future first-rounder, was a no-brainer.

With a list that probably needs six-eight more players, why not take two brilliant midfielders and then secure the Power 2023 first rounder to ensure they can cash in on an even stronger draft?

The problem for North Melbourne fans — and former players slowly getting used to mediocrity — is that all of a sudden they have a huge case of FOMO.

Their next 12 months could be a hell ride watching the bloke they overlooked dominate, the bloke who left them turn into a star and the extra pick they received from Port Adelaide shrink by the week.

An exercise in turning Horne-Francis’ departure into a vast trade fortune seems to have turned into them getting 75 cents on the dollar.

The Roos said on Monday they had maximised their return by securing the extra first-round selection next year as they turned Horne-Francis and pick No.1 into selections two and three this year.

But they already had pick No.1 this year.

They could have played hardball with Port Adelaide to secure their pick No.8 and another top-12 selection for Horne-Francis.

They could then have traded for the Eagles’ pick No.2, giving them the top two picks in November’s draft without having to hand the first overall selection to the Giants.

If they missed on a Port Adelaide future first-rounder so be it, because they would have dominated this draft without the risk they missed on the best player by handing over the first live pick after the Lions matched a bid for Will Ashcroft.

Roos fans will genuinely fear Cadman turning into the hybrid of Jeremy Cameron and Harry McKay that recruiters believe he could be.

They will wonder why the Roos are so worried about taking key position players like Logan McDonald when blind Freddy can see they need another key position forward.

North Melbourne will point to the hit-or-miss strike rate of key position talls taken in the top 10 in recent years — think Denver Grainger Barrass or Fisher McAsey or Jack Lukosius.

But the problem for Roos fans is two-fold.

In theory the decision could be inspired if Cadman struggles early and the Roos get instant gratification from a pair like the explosive mid George Wardlaw and brilliant mid-forward Harry Sheezel, with two first rounders to come next year.

But a club that used to pull the wool over the eyes of rivals with heists on stars like Wayne Carey and John Longmire doesn’t exactly have the track record to be trusted in recent years.
Roos fans have grown used to watching some of these trades with their hands over their eyes, barely able to peek through their fingers.


Instead of taking the tall-small combination premiership star David King called for as he declared the Roos had been “dudded” on Fox Footy on Monday night, Roos fans will watch in 2023 aware Cadman has the tools to take the competition by storm.

They spend the year having handed Jason Horne-Francis to the Power, aware on his home turf he could emerge as a future champion of the game.

And if Port Adelaide roars up the ladder after this year’s dismal campaign their future first-rounder linked to the Power only diminishes in quality.

So it is up to Clarkson, or whoever runs their program next year, to ensure the development program is absolutely elite and turns their No. 2 and 3 picks into the stars they should be.

That they ensure Nick Larkey and Cam Zurhaar and Callum Coleman-Jones and Charlie Comben and Jacob Edwards turn into the key position force that means the Roos didn’t need Cadman.

And more to the point, that the Roos get their house in order and stop going through coaches as a yearly event so players like Horne-Francis don’t bolt at the first opportunity.
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"Jon Ralph has his doubts".......LOL...

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Tas said:
I am glad we ended up with 2 + FF instead of 8 + FF and other flotsam. I think having 2 of Sheezel/Wardlaw/Tsatas and an extra first round next year gives us two really strong talented kids going into next year.

I like Cadman as well but for whatever reason our club doesn't rate him as highly.

I will lose my s**t if we trade 3 down.
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We've put too much time and effort into ccj and comben not to see it through
 


 
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