List Mgmt. 2022 Trade Thread - Part II

[SaintyMcSaintface]

Heard a couple of small things from someone at the club. Very confident on DeGoey, unfortunately the NAS rumblings are true, doesn’t mean it will happen this off season though and Gallagher likely to come under significant pressure from the review, possibly won’t survive.

Has anyone else heard this about Gags? What is he under pressure for do we think?

 

[bird_man]

It's a shame Nick Bryan is contracted as I can't see Essendon letting him go cheap.

Looks like he has the potential to be a quality first ruck, although not sure he's much of a threat up forward just yet.

In his 23 VFL game he's already had 8 with 40+ hit outs and seems to be able to get his hands on the footy around the ground

 

[gringo2011]

He's always been a good 2s player. The embarrassing thing is some people thought he was a good 1s player.

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He probably had our third most Brownlow votes for half a season last year and we turned around our season when he came in. Embarrassing that fans back the club despite all evidence showing that they make constant mistakes.

 

[ScrappyDo]

Who cares what they think, they would have thought Seb Ross needed out too. He's worth nothing, might as well have him as depth if he doesn't come on. Having depth and good players in the VFL improves your kids.

It's a balance. Do you pay a draft pick for said young ruckman or part with a depth player.

 

[gringo2011]

Heard a couple of small things from someone at the club. Very confident on DeGoey, unfortunately the NAS rumblings are true, doesn’t mean it will happen this off season though and Gallagher likely to come under significant pressure from the review, possibly won’t survive.

Heard rumours that Gags isn't that popular with players. Not sure why.

 

[ScrappyDo]

He probably had our third most Brownlow votes for half a season last year and we turned around our season when he came in. Embarrassing that fans back the club despite all evidence showing that they make constant mistakes.

No issues moving Dunny for the sake of Bytel, but now Bytel moving out for opportunity is pretty shameful management.

 

[gringo2011]

It's a balance. Do you pay a draft pick for said young ruckman or part with a depth player.

Bryan is worth FA too. He looks like another Heath, semi developed ruck.

 

[PandaG]

We re signed Butler a month ago. He isn't up for trade.

He should be

 

[gringo2011]

No issues moving Dunny for the sake of Bytel, but now Bytel moving out for opportunity is pretty shameful management.

Part of management is having a side ready with depth. Keep him and we nearly certainly play finals. Pure inside mids are back in fashion in the last 2 years and we throw away the good one we have because the coach is unable to communicate to him in a way that makes him feel valued.....or see how footy has changed. That's the shit that cost the dwarf his job.

 

[bird_man]

He probably had our third most Brownlow votes for half a season last year and we turned around our season when he came in. Embarrassing that fans back the club despite all evidence showing that they make constant mistakes.

I can honestly say i dont always back the club but 100% do on this one

The fact only one other club wanted him and it was as a depth player says it all really.

He's now playing VFL and probably about to start a chippy apprenticeship.

 

[BrutThough]

No issues moving Dunny for the sake of Bytel, but now Bytel moving out for opportunity is pretty shameful management.

It's more damning for Bytel that two first year players have already overtaken him in the pecking order.

 

[stfan]

and Gallagher likely to come under significant pressure from the review, possibly won’t survive.

And yet they just promoted Gallagher this last week to head of list and talent management..

 

[lewdogs]

What's the knock on Matt Crouch

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Matt Crouch

Age

29

Ht

183cm

Wt

85kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

28.4

5star

K

12.0

4star

HB

16.4

5star

M

3.3

3star

T

3.9

5star

CL

4.8

5star

D

24.9

5star

K

9.7

4star

HB

15.1

5star

M

2.4

3star

T

2.4

3star

CL

4.4

5star

D

21.2

5star

K

10.4

4star

HB

10.8

5star

M

4.4

4star

T

3.4

5star

CL

2.0

4star

? I don't think I've watched Adelaide play at all over the last few years, obviously he's out of favour there but was AA a few years ago. I'm not sure Adelaide are always the best judges... If you think we feel bad about Hind, imagine how their fans must feel watching Stengle.

 

[PandaG]

If you think Butler is a list clogger there is a fair chance that GC agrees with you.

Not now they have lost their premium small forward

Butler looks great on a highlights reel but not much substance.
Just a thought

 

[bird_man]

Bryan is worth FA too. He looks like another Heath, semi developed ruck.

Why do you say he looks like a other Heath? Because they are both young?

Bryan won Essendons VFL best and fairest last year and has already played senior footy which is a good sign for a 20 year old ruck.

 

[stfan]

What's the knock on Matt Crouch? I don't think I've watched Adelaide play at all over the last few years, obviously he's out of favour there but was AA a few years ago. I'm not sure Adelaide are always the best judges... If you think we feel bad about Hind, imagine how their fans must feel watching Stengle.

Well for us, he is slow and we already have a bevvy of slow mids which is supposedly a reason why Bytel has not played more games.

 

[gringo2011]

I can honestly say i dont always back the club but 100% do on this one

The fact only one other club wanted him and it was as a depth player says it all really.

He's now playing VFL and probably about to start a chippy apprenticeship.

It was the restricted covid cap that meant clubs had less money to throw around. It worked for us signing Ross and Billings, in a normal year they probably get to another club on at least their last contract. Players who came out of contract or into FA that weren't stars got stooged by the timing.

 

[ScrappyDo]

Part of management is having a side ready with depth. Keep him and we nearly certainly play finals. Pure inside mids are back in fashion in the last 2 years and we throw away the good one we have because the coach is unable to communicate to him in a way that makes him feel valued.....or see how footy has changed. That's the s**t that cost the dwarf his job.

No argument from me there. I got completely off the Ratten bus in the first 10mins in round 1. He's no good. Still seems like a nice fella but.

 

[bird_man]

It was the restricted covid cap that meant clubs had less money to throw around. It worked for us signing Ross and Billings, in a normal year they probably get to another club on at least their last contract. Players who came out of contract or into FA that weren't stars got stooged by the timing.

Would have cost any club close to **** all to take him on.

If he was actually any good another club would have gobbled up as a FA on a basic contract

 

[ScrappyDo]

It's more damning for Bytel that two first year players have already overtaken him in the pecking order.

His injuries and lack of versatility are 99% to blame for that. It's not damning at all.

 

[Anythings_sipposible]

Bytel for Bryan? Seems pretty clean, but there are very few direct player swaps anymore

 

[lewdogs]

Part of management is having a side ready with depth. Keep him and we nearly certainly play finals. Pure inside mids are back in fashion in the last 2 years and we throw away the good one we have because the coach is unable to communicate to him in a way that makes him feel valued.....or see how footy has changed. That's the s**t that cost the dwarf his job.

You genuinely think if we'd had Dunstan we'd have played finals this year?

 

[stavro#4]

Heard rumours that Gags isn't that popular with players. Not sure why.

You don’t want him to be friendly with the players.

It’s his job to sack and trade them.

 

[stfan]

You genuinely think if we'd had Dunstan we'd have played finals this year?

Yes I think that if we had of had Dunstan this year that Sandy would have been a great show of playing finals.


Not having Dunstan probably meant that this year that we got more games into Windy and Owens at AFL level, and that is a very good thing for our future.

 

[Joffaboy]

Reported where

Here