From a future salary cap perspective, I disagree
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Thoughts on taking Collard?
I’m of the strong view that if we want to contend in the next 3-4 years then Pedlar and Rachele need to be our top end miss with Dawson.
Which means they won’t be playing forward that much. In my mind we need another top tier small forward to step in for them.
Collard really catches my eye.
My perfect draft would be:
Pick 10: Wilson (snatch Curtin if he’s there)
Pick 14: Collard
Pick 20: Charlie Edwards; or a developing ruck in Green or Goad
I’m just not sold that DeMattia will be an upgrade on Sam Berry - they seem to play very similar to me and Berry to me seems cleaner below the knees and with the handball.
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Not sure if he’s been discussed much on here previously, but Darcy Wilson’s father is convinced he’ll be selected by Adelaide.
Hopefully at pick 14.
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That seems like a bit of a push.
If we are trading up to 8 I doubt it’s to get Wilson.
Smack bang in the middle at 10, staying where we are, makes sense
Windsor and/or Leake have probably caught the eye of the teams above us
Who knows. I have us trading up as more likely than not.
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Wouldn’t mind us taking a ruck but also think there is every chance we only take two picks. I will be really surprised if we use the three we have - either package up to Geelong pick or trade the 3rd one into next year
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Response to both is disposal. From what I’ve seen Edwards can hit a target. DeMattia can’t. Happy to be corrected.
Now that's a player. Hadn't seen him before.
What's his knocks? Athletic testing?
Trying to think who he reminds me of, smooth mover.
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A left footed Sam Mitchell?
Looks speedier. All the phantoms I've just browsed he's not even listed.
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If O'Sullivan is off the table at 10 he's worth picking up there
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Agreed and he's 191cm and finds his way through traffic, I think he has more versatility than DeMattia
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Personally I'm not keen on Collard. Highlights package would be good, but watched him live at Thebarton, spent all match complaining to team mates they weren't giving him the footy. Not sure he has the best attitude. Hardly touched it and had the sulks on for most of match. It was quite amusing to watch at times. Saw flashes of it again in the WA v VICC game also. Better solid small & med forwards around in my opinion, I'd rather take any of Gothard, Sanchez, Dealean, Moir & Callinan. If he got that far, love to give Charlie Harrop a rookie spot, can play.
Went back and watched all the VICC carnival matches & futures games, as all the talk around our picks is Wilson & DeMattia. Where does Wilson play at AFL level? Very outside even when he's supposedly playing inside. Do people see him Wing or half Forward? Not good under pressure and we know AFL is a massive step in speed of play. His best attribute, he covers the ground like a gazelle, and never seems to tire. He's really going to have to toughen up to play regular AFL imo. I respect everyones opinion, so hopefully I don't get shot down for giving you mine.
I see DeMattia playing half back, back pocket, use his speed, and his kicking does have good penetration. I think he and Berry play different roles at AFL level. I'm keener on others in this draft personally, but if he's available at pick 20, have to give it some thought.
I'm with you on the ruck call, Green or Goad, no problem grabbing either of those lads. Plenty to work with.
Although I realise Cooper Simpson is a right footer, he moves and kicks a hell of a lot like Dylan Shiel.
Kinda hunched back and exaggerated ball drop.
Geez Simpson has some pace and slots a long goal nicely.
If we grab Wilson with 10 and a tall (Edwards?) with 14, I’d be gunning for Simpson at 20
Edit: also I beat you to it
If we decide to go tall with 10 and/or 14, this is a name I’d be very happy to pick up at 20, as a quick inside mid option
A bit on the shorter side, but a quality, underrated player IMO
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Yes, as soon as I saw him I thought of Brad Crouch.
Bicks with my limited knowledge love these selections especially if by some chance can get both O'Sullivan and Wilson.
But from this draft I would be very very disappointed if we didn't pick up a ruck from so many promising types available .
We have to start developing one now .
Maybe if we push to get a earlier pick we might have a early third pick to pick one rather than use 20 .
But under AFL rules the Kangaroos cannot match a bid from a rival club on Sanders within the first 40 picks in the national draft and special priority access to him was not included as part of an assistance package which was ticked off in September.
It means that Sanders enters the draft on the open market and looks likely to be snapped up by either Hawthorn (pick 4) or the Western Bulldogs (pick 5).
North Melbourne (picks 2 and 3) could select him before that, but the Kangaroos appear to be locked in on other targets.
“For a while there it was looking pretty likely that I was going to be part of that compensation,” Sanders said.
“You can still go there (North Melbourne) if they want to draft me, but there’s a lot of uncertainty and excitement to see where I’ll end up now.”
Sanders looks likely to land at Hawthorn or the Western Bulldogs at the
If it is the Hawks or Bulldogs, Sanders won’t be unhappy to stay in Melbourne.
He has been boarding at Melbourne Grammar for the past two years to finish his schooling and has featured in back-to-back premierships for the Sandringham Dragons in the Coates Talent League during that time.
That has not been the only success he has enjoyed, either.
Sanders was not only part of the winning Allies team in the under-18 national championships this year, but also won the Larke Medal at the best player of the tournament.
One recruiter described Sanders’ year as “bulletproof” and labelled him “as clean as a whistle”.
Allies coach Mark McVeigh said after the championships there we no shortage of AFL traits in the 185cm onballer who plays as a “traditional centreman”.
“He’s going to be one of those bigger midfielders,” McVeigh said.
“He’s just always there, he very rarely makes a mistake and is very clean by hand and foot. He looks a little bit like (Jason) Horne-Francis with his socks up and the haircut.”
Melbourne has offered three first-round selections including its prized pick six in a bid to pinch No. 1, and star underage prospect, Harley Reid from West Coast.
The Demons were prepared to give up pick six, 11, 42 and their future first-round pick to the Eagles for pick one, sources have confirmed.
But West Coast did not accept the deal and remain on track to keep pick one, believing the Tongala product can become one of the best players in the competition in blue and yellow.
North has also offered picks 15, 17 and 18 for one, but the Eagles do not want multiple picks in the teens unless they accompany multiple single-figure picks as well.
Harley Reid is considered a once in a generation talent. Picture: Michael Willson/AFL Photos via Getty Images
The last two times a club has taken three players in the teens GWS Giants in 2020 selected Tanner Bruhn (12), Conor Stone (15) and Ryan Angwin (18) and Collingwood in 2012 picked Brodie Grundy (18), Ben Kennedy (19) and Tim Broomhead (20).
Recruiters agree the talent drops off after pick 10 in this year’s draft.
North’s pick two and three would likely be enough to tempt West Coast to off-load pick one, but the Kangaroos are not interested in that deal.
It means the Kangaroos could take speedy ballwinner Colby McKercher and classy outside midfielder Zane Duursma with picks two and three.
AWest Coast wants to take Reid, the powerful goal kicking midfielder-forward at pick one, and could re-enter the mix for WA star Daniel Curtin live on draft night if he slips down the order on November 20.
The Eagles could trade their future first-round pick (from the 2024 draft) for Melbourne’s pick six if Western Australian gun swingman Curtin had not been picked in the first five.
There is a chance Curtin slips past Hawthorn (pick four) and Western Bulldogs (pick five).
The left-footed Curtin has been likened to Fremantle champion Matthew Pavlich for his versatility to play anywhere on the ground, classy disposal and aerial strength.
It means the Demons could trade pick six for a chance to own the first pick in next year’s draft if West Coast finishes in last spot for the second year in a row next season.
If successful, that deal would allow West Coast to welcome Reid and WA product Curtin in this year’s draft, after taking midfielders Rueben Ginbey and Elijah Hewett last season.
GWS Giants could also pass on Curtin at pick seven as Adam Kingsley’s men are well-stocked for defenders.
Melbourne secured pick six from Fremantle as part of the Luke Jackson trade last year.
The Demons have been linked to powerful forward Nate Caddy, from Northern Knights to add to their forward mix next year, in a bid to run deep into September.
Melbourne may only use two selections in this year’s draft.
Gee November 20 can’t come quick enough!!
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