Preview 2023 Rd 10 Carlton vs Collingwood Sunday May 21 3:20PM @ MCG

[Aphrodite]

Team is in ...


IN: Jordan Boyd
OUT: Alex Cincotta

SUB: Hewett

Ed Curnow has been elevated to the starting 22, while George Hewett

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George Hewett

Age

29

Ht

187cm

Wt

87kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.7

4star

K

7.4

3star

HB

10.3

5star

M

2.7

3star

T

4.1

5star

CL

3.3

5star

D

13.8

3star

K

4.8

2star

HB

9.0

4star

M

1.8

2star

T

3.2

4star

CL

2.8

4star

D

11.2

3star

K

7.8

3star

HB

3.4

3star

M

3.4

4star

T

4.0

5star

CL

0.4

3star

has been confirmed as starting sub.

AFL team news: Boyd back, sub confirmed

Carlton has named its Round 10 team for the clash with Collingwood.

www.carltonfc.com.au

Backs:	Sam Docherty	Lewis Young	Nic Newman
Half-backs:	Mitch McGovern	Jacob Weitering	Adam Saad
Centreline:	Blake Acres	Patrick Cripps	Oliver Hollands
Half-forwards:	Ed Curnow	Harry McKay	Jack Silvagni
Forwards:	Corey Durdin	Charlie Curnow	Jesse Motlop
Followers:	Marc Pittonet	Adam Cerra	Sam Walsh
Interchange:	Jordan Boyd	Matthew Cottrell	Matthew Kennedy
	Matthew Owies
Sub:	George Hewett
Emergencies:	Alex Cincotta	Tom De Koning	Zac Fisher

 

[The Bighouse]

Young was needed on 1 of the 3 talls

Really only 1 tall in Lobb, and he went to backup ruck as well.
Weiters & McGovern + Kemp (if selected), or JSOS could have manned the others in Naughton & JUH.

Wouldn’t mind having Liam Jones on the list & being our mobile ruck ATM, just to have some tall marking presence around the park.

 

[Cringle]

???

Just moving deck chairs around for fun

 

[SolGoodman]

Watching them now, they’re so electric and will likely so easily slice through our “zone”, however, there is something oddly getable about them when they get attacked…Maybe, just maybe…

 

[Rustica]

We are in the exact same spot Collingwood were last year. They went into Round 10 with a 4-5 record coming off a 42 point loss to the Dogs. They weren’t playing the best off football but it clicked for them against Freo away.

We are 4-1-4 coming into Round 10 off a 20 point loss to the Dogs.

Pies went on to win the next 12 games in a row.

Not saying we are going to do the same thing but somethings gotta change and I hope it finally clicks against these campaigners!

 

[AB_Blue]

We are in the exact same spot Collingwood were last year. They went into Round 10 with a 4-5 record coming off a 42 point loss to the Dogs. They weren’t playing the best off football but it clicked for them against Freo away.

We are 4-1-4 coming into Round 10 off a 20 point loss to the Dogs.

Pies went on to win the next 12 games in a row.

Not saying we are going to do the same thing but somethings gotta change and I hope it finally clicks against these campaigners!

How quickly we all forget early season form….we were 8-2 were we not?

We need to put on the Sydney game of last year at Marvel and just watch how electric we were at that time of the season

Speed on the ball is something we’re lacking…that and a bucket load of confidence and freedom……We are playing uptight, anxious footy at the moment…..


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[windows1]

Well the conservative selection approach hasn't been working.

But we just need more nourishment. Pretty sure. Voss tells me that every week so it must be true. Don’t make changes. Just get nourishment.

 

[Osc1]

But we just need more nourishment. Pretty sure. Voss tells me that every week so it must be true. Don’t make changes. Just get nourishment.

He’s just talking about eating a nourish bowl. Have you had one ? They’re pretty good.

 

[Blue1980]

Kemp is faster stronger and better overhead. He's better in congestion and has more natural footy creativity. Obviously. We're just carltoning him behind the ball. He's dynamic and just playing in deep d50 spots that hide everything he's got at and everything that saw him expected to go top 5 ish before his injury. He still went first round off a big injury ffs. This is no spud.

At this point it’s worth a try with kemp as 3rd forward, we have seen enough from JSOS he’s reached his ceiling.

 

[Blue1980]

Watching them now, they’re so electric and will likely so easily slice through our “zone”, however, there is something oddly getable about them when they get attacked…Maybe, just maybe…

No

 

[Mondyboy]

You want me to pick a team?

I’m going to the game. Isn’t that enough pain?


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[Blue1980]

But we just need more nourishment. Pretty sure. Voss tells me that every week so it must be true. Don’t make changes. Just get nourishment.

None of those performances were more than 1-2 quarter bursts, with us grimly hanging on.

History has shown it wasn’t sustainable and we’ve been worked out.

 

[Benaly28]

Out: Young, McKay, Cripps, E Curnow, Silvagni, C Durdin, Motlop
In: Kemp, S Durdin, Boyd, De Koning, Binns, Carroll


Newman S Durdin Kemp
Docherty Weitering Saad
Cottrell Kennedy Acres
McGovern De Koning Walsh
Cincotta C Curnow Owies
Pittonet Hewett Cerra

Hollands/Binns, Boyd, Carroll, Fogarty

Sub: Cripps


Harry is killing us and needs a dose of confidence. Covering for Cripps' defensive deficiencies is one thing, but when he loses the ability to hurt offensively as well, he needs a break. I put him as sub an an insurance policy. Considered also dropping Hewett but one has to stay and he is usually better defensively.

I wanted to drop Weiters, but I believe Young's ground game hurts just as much as Weiters being off the boil. I considered Young as a forward/second ruck, but TDK is surely better in that regard. Plus TDK can do the long searching leads down the ground that Harry can do and his hands are every bit as good.

McGovern up forward but he is interchangeable with Kemp there. Just wanted someone who has good recovery skills and kicks straight.

Cincotta has limitations. He takes the game on and gets caught down back. I'd like to see that tackle pressure and pace up forward. He doesn't stop trying and he is physical. Durdin and Motlop either get nowhere near it for much of the match, don't tackle or lose one on ones too easily. It's not working Vossy.

Boyd on the bench as the 7th defender. Hollands or Binns as the 3rd winger, depending on how Hollands comes up. Carroll and Fogarty into the midfield rotation.

Wow.

That’s hope more than anything else.


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[Benaly28]

I would swing McGovern forward. You then have Curnow, Mckay & McGovern more likely to meet the contest from full forward to the wing. But always having a option out of the square.

Our smalls can get lost & are poor in the air against their direct opponents. These marking turnovers often leave players down the field in no man’s land.

We focus on a basic game plan on marking or bringing the ball to ground and have the smalls focus on applying pressure. A bit like the beginning of last year.

Jsos plays off the bench backing up the Ruck or goes forward when Mckay, Curnow & McGovern are resting. Jsos can be a bit slow coming out of the forward line but is good reading the ball off the boot in the mid area of the ground. Means kemp comes back in.

Yes, forward line is killing us. Voss needs to structure differently until we get some poise & class across the half forward line linking into the wings.

I still think the Blues are on the verge of getting us excited again. It is a long season. The team going into next week will be more settled & hungry.

You know that might be a good idea.

Get Kemp in his place.Gov can run as well.Have 3 smalls around them and just get the ball in as quick as possible.


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[Benaly28]

They’ve won 6 in a row,surely they’re due but you know they’ll lift for us.


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[Blue_Fusion]

Watching them now, they’re so electric and will likely so easily slice through our “zone”, however, there is something oddly getable about them when they get attacked…Maybe, just maybe…

Don't do it to yourself....

 

[Broadside]

I don't know if this was crazy, but if I was in charge of the football team i'd have a ritualistic private ceremony first thing Monday morning. Lights off in the change rooms, heads shaved. Kits burned. Every player would be 'dropped' for the game against Collingwood and made to earn their selection through training this week.

I like it but could be awkward when only 3 players get selected on Thursday night.

 

[gbatman]

One thing we have been able to do is make games ugly, low scoring and defensive. I think a lot of this may just be about us recognising Collingwood being the team to beat and having a game style that takes away their strengths. Take away the corridor, make it contested, take away space around the ball. Question is will it work? It nearly did last year and I get the feeling that is how we have this game style. My gut says it won't and this will be a 50-60 point drubbing.

A few things, I reckon Ed Curnow was rested this week, he comes back in to tag Daicos. I'm wondering if there will be any other surprises like maybe DeKoning returning.

Playing the best side in the league who do everything we do poorly and play a style of footy that opens us right up and exposes our weak areas is going to be a huge challenge.

This isn't as much a game that is a test to see where we are at IMO. We know where we are at. This is a game to see whether we can improve or not.

IMO we are too big and slow in the middle, too, we play far too risk free and defensive and we lack genuine quality small forwards. Our backing is horribly put of form and the output from out better players and leaders is not good enough currently. We turn these things around and we are a chance.

This will IMO be a game we get flogged in and that will spark some change, whether that's good who knows.

 

[AndyLucimitis]

???

I don’t mind it.

I was thinking just throw TDK at it. It may just be the trigger to unlock the midfield


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[teknodeejay]

Outs :- Voss (Rested) lol

Hansen does have a good record…

 

[Blue4Life]

McKay is a wish version of cox

Sad that there is some really good suggestions in this thread regarding trying something new (like McGovern forward) but Voss will do nothing again other than mids at half back

 

[Lukeblueboy]

I can’t see there being any changes for this one imo.
The side is pretty much as strong as we’ve had in a fair while now.

I’m going to go the glass half full approach towards this one, as I think (even tho we lost last night) the part when we kicked 6 straight and got in front is the blue print for me now moving forward as to how voss needs to structure up and play this team
We need speed on the ball and we had that in this period, where all of durds/Mots/doc/cots we’re all running periods up the ground through the middle. We attacked in that period last night like we haven’t before and we looked so good! We need to get this type of game style up and running from the outset week in week out! Need to get the smaller zippy players up the ground and around the contest alot earlier in games than we have been. Bring that sort of intent and running power in waves and defend hard as soon as they have the ball and I think we can be right in this one imo

But, we must continue on from how we played that that quarter and a bit last night!! Have to

 

[Brackets]

Pies had 1 more inside 50 and doubled our score. Aim should be to simply show some composure and start building chains that are effective and turn into scores. We're not winning this week but we can start to build some form.

 

[Jimmae]

People potting McKay have zero respect for the work he's been doing up the ground and at the fall of the ball, while also failing to recognise he's slowly figuring out his kicking routine again after getting in his own head.

Important to note that Ben McKay suffered from depression as a teenager and seemingly struggles with self-confidence at times. Some of that might be in the genes. He'll work through it, and almost has in terms of when to snap vs. traditional set shot action.

I feel sick enough without you mentioning LOb Jimmae.

Do you have a better suggestion for getting the following into the team:

• Increased speed/endurnace mix
• Improved attacking avenues into 50
• Ability to shoot at goal from outside 40m on the run

Cotts is the perfect match up, has the legs to go with him & the mongrel, strength & size to hammer him at every opportunity. Let’s see how he goes with someone he can’t outwork but is harder/stronger & keen to show it. Cotts would love the opportunity to go after him.

Classic brains vs brawn matchup, I'm not confident but I don't think we'd have a better option if we opt to tag.

Cripps as 3rd tall forward
Did well there last year with 20+ goals

Most of those goals were kicked from midfield... he barely spent time as a forward

Watching them now, they’re so electric and will likely so easily slice through our “zone”, however, there is something oddly getable about them when they get attacked…Maybe, just maybe…

... they're playing a counter-attacking gamestyle and that's a component of catching their opponent off-guard?

They just won after having no significant statistical difference aside from:

-6 centre clearances
+5 marks inside 50
+16% efficiency going inside 50
+11 goals

 

[ITCHY EYEBALLS]

Voss needs to have the players watch the 3rd qt from last years match on repeat, all week.
It was our best qt of the year. Get some bloody confidence into them.
It’s all above the shoulders, fix it quick or we’ll be pumped by 10 goals plus.

 

[KohPhi]

They’ve won 6 in a row,surely they’re due but you know they’ll lift for us.


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Sadly, on our current form, they could be slightly off their game and account for us..