Preview 2023 Rd 22 Carlton vs Melbourne Saturday August 12 7:30M @ MCG

[Aphrodite]

Team is in …


NO. CHANGES.

AFL team selection: A three-year first

Carlton has named its team for Round 22.

www.carltonfc.com.au

Sam Docherty

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Sam Docherty

Age

30

Ht

187cm

Wt

87kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

22.3

5star

K

15.1

5star

HB

7.2

4star

M

6.6

5star

T

2.4

4star

CL

1.1

3star

D

22.6

5star

K

16.0

5star

HB

6.6

4star

M

7.0

5star

T

0.6

1star

CL

0.4

3star

D

11.2

3star

K

6.0

3star

HB

5.2

4star

M

2.4

3star

T

1.4

4star

CL

0.6

3star

will play his 150th game in the Navy Blue guernsey - the jumper he grew up wearing as a supporter - as Carlton looks to continue its strong run of form from recent months.

Last weekend’s sub, Ed Curnow is the sole omission from the Round 22 team: he has been named as one of four emergencies alongside Jordan Boyd (now available after suspension), Sam Durdin

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Sam Durdin

Age

28

Ht

199cm

Wt

100kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.7

2star

K

6.2

2star

HB

3.5

3star

M

3.3

3star

T

1.7

4star

No current season stats available

D

11.2

3star

K

7.4

3star

HB

3.8

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.6

4star

and Josh Honey. One of those four will be named as sub an hour before the bounce.

Backs:	Alex Cincotta	Jacob Weitering	Adam Saad
Half-backs:	Nic Newman	Caleb Marchbank	Brodie Kemp
Centreline:	Blake Acres	Patrick Cripps	Oliver Hollands
Half-forwards:	Jack Martin	Tom De Koning	David Cuningham
Forwards:	Lachie Fogarty	Charlie Curnow	Matthew Owies
Followers:	Marc Pittonet	Sam Docherty	George Hewett
Interchange:	Matthew Cottrell	Paddy Dow	Zac Fisher
	Jesse Motlop
Emergencies:	Jordan Boyd	Ed Curnow	Sam Durdin
	Josh Honey

 

[tarczonandjane]

Judging by the measly 43 contributions to the game thread on the Melbourne board, I would say we can aim at making up a massive chunk of the crowd and spurring the lads on again.

I don’t reckon there has been a seriously amazing game yet this season (don’t get me wrong, there have been some very good ones). But in terms of a match which is right up there for pressure and intensity, I don’t think there has yet been an absolute standout. This game could be it.

 

[Jucman]

You'd ruck Sam Durdin or Young against Max Gawn? Sounds like a recipe for disaster for me.

Go back and have a look at the 2nd half yesterday. Pitto was a solid contributor. There's no way he's not playing this week.

Pitto was outstanding in the 2 nd half .
I just watched the replay, his Ruck work to the advantage of Dow and Cripps was elite.

 

[Bletch]

Hoping for a big dump of snow at Falls and Buller this week.

 

[Sector 7G]

Hoping for a big dump of snow at Falls and Buller this week.

There is a chance Buller will be closed this weekend due to lack of snow.

 

[crippa1234]

Fisher did impress me. It's amazing what a kick up the backside can do. He'll keep his spot.

With Boyd being available and Kempy pulling up a bit sore, we might shuffle the line up that faced the Saints.

I'm not interested in risking Cerra or Walsh.

I think Dow earned another full game. Some of his early on mistakes... Crippa was making a lot of dumb ones too let's be honest here and Doc was even worse in the first half.

For them Petty will be out, Clarry comes in... could they recall Grundy to try and stretch our back line?

I think Sam Durdin plays if either Kemp misses and/or Grundy is selected.

We need more from Pitto. He provides a big body in the contest but he just doesn't take enough marks at either end of the ground.

I’m just wondering Why are people assuming Clarry comes In?

Last article I read he had a flare up and was still 2-3 away , that was last week ?

 

[Beyond Blue]

Feels strange to even say this, but is McKay still an automatic selection when he’s fit? Big call for them to make considering how we’ve been playing. I’m not sure McKay, TDK & pit can all fit?

It feels strange because it is strange.

Even when his goal kicking was off he was having a great year. One of the best contested marks in the league and moved like a gazelle which is amazing for someone of his build. The bloke is a gun. Not to mention we need him to stop opposition ganging up on Charlie.

I don’t profess to know what the coaches think but I reckon even I can say I know McKay is a certainty when fit. Pitt will be the one to fall out of the team IMO.

 

[Manhattanite]

I’m just wondering Why are people assuming Clarry comes In?

Last article I read he had a flare up and was still 2-3 away , that was last week ?

I think their coach said he would be back against us - think that was last Friday


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[lily of laguna]

When we are full, Pitto definitely off..

Traditional Rucks are overrated, we win games and clearances even when we get dominated in hit outs.

Pittonet is just too slow for this new style we’re playing and doesn’t take enough contested marks to justify his height advantage. Still can’t believe we signed him on for 4 years…

Silvagni is more effective as a double edged sword, tall enough to help ruck duties , but also sneaky enough to get a ground ball off the pack and run into the goal square.

Also takes a better contested mark than Pittonet

I’m not a huge fan of either but SOS suits our structure a lot more.

Along with a fit McKay , pitto will definitely be a surplus to requirements and
Let’s be honest here, he isn’t a top ten ruck in the comp

I’m not sure if this has been said or not, but the way in which Voss talks about Pitto and the role he plays, he sees him as definitely best 22.
I think Voss believes TDK and Pitto can be the right combination, I am yet to be convinced.
If those 2 play I think SOS misses out and I don’t like that outcome.
It relegates SOS to depth player coming in to the side for injury or form.



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[CCurnow3votes]

Fisher played the same role yesterday that Boyd will play. It's hard to see us playing a back 7 that includes Fisher, Boyd, Newman and Saad. Especially with JVR, melksham, Gawn when resting and Petry replacement up there. So for mine either Boyd or Fisher are sub.

No other changes unless one of our on ballers is available.

Fisher adds more value and versatility than Boyd - showed his poise yesterday

 

[CCurnow3votes]

Judging by the measly 43 contributions to the game thread on the Melbourne board, I would say we can aim at making up a massive chunk of the crowd and spurring the lads on again.

I don’t reckon there has been a seriously amazing game yet this season (don’t get me wrong, there have been some very good ones). But in terms of a match which is right up there for pressure and intensity, I don’t think there has yet been an absolute standout. This game could be it.

Home game 75% baggers - will be huge

 

[jj1978]

Judging by the measly 43 contributions to the game thread on the Melbourne board, I would say we can aim at making up a massive chunk of the crowd and spurring the lads on again.

I don’t reckon there has been a seriously amazing game yet this season (don’t get me wrong, there have been some very good ones). But in terms of a match which is right up there for pressure and intensity, I don’t think there has yet been an absolute standout. This game could be it.

Due to their recent success, they now do ski season in August to be back by finals.

 

[Blue Reaper]

2 games in 4 weeks. The VFL is a s*** competition for a reserves competition. Starts late, has byes galore, not much of a reserves comp IMO.

Yeah, some of the scheduling and planning is misaligned with the needs of the senior competition. Puzzling.

 

[Jeremias]

Massive game. Should be a cracker between two good sides in good form.

Melbourne are really good. Perhaps haven't hit their best form yet but they're very strong and will go deep. I have them as the 2nd best team in it behind Collingwood at the moment.

Petty is a big out. Big question marks around their forward line and he's played a really important role for them in the forward half. Fritsch we know won't be there...so who will?

Maybe they swing Smith forward and replace him down back with Tomlinson. Maybe they bring in Brown. Grundy? A long shot but definitely possible.

Sounds like Oliver will be back. Good and bad news for us. He's a superstar obviously but he hasn't played footy in just under 3 months. He will not be match fit.

For us...waiting for the injury report. I am a little worried about Kemp. Boyd has served his suspension and may well come straight back in but not sure who makes way.

Would love to see one or more of our big outs return to the side but certainly I wouldn't be rushing anyone back. Job's not done but we've won 7 on the trot and that means this one isn't do or die. No resting players though. Full steam ahead.

 

[bigblueboy]

Fisher adds more value and versatility than Boyd - showed his poise yesterday

Would you rather Boyd or Fisher on Pickett?
It’s true Fisher would provide greater offence … defensively Boyd is much better.
Newman gets Melksham and Saad takes Neal-Bullen/Chandler?
Will be interesting to see selection if Kemp gets up.

 

[CCurnow3votes]

Would you rather Boyd or Fisher on Pickett?
It’s true Fisher would provide greater offence … defensively Boyd is much better.
Newman gets Melksham and Saad takes Neal-Bullen/Chandler?
Will be interesting to see selection if Kemp gets up.

Fisher was better yesterday defensively - agree in that instance though.

 

[bigblueboy]

I’m not sure if this has been said or not, but the way in which Voss talks about Pitto and the role he plays, he sees him as definitely best 22.
I think Voss believes TDK and Pitto can be the right combination, I am yet to be convinced.
If those 2 play I think SOS misses out and I don’t like that outcome.
It relegates SOS to depth player coming in to the side for injury or form.



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This selection quandary has been bubbling along since last year - it just hasn’t been an issue very often due to injury.
I completely agree with your assessment - however there are examples in the next two weeks where the opposition have mature ruckmen - making it easier to justify playing both TDK and Pittonet.

 

[Elmer_Hauser]

Clayton Oliver

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Clayton Oliver

Age

26

Ht

189cm

Wt

88kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

27.8

5star

K

9.5

4star

HB

18.4

5star

M

3.2

3star

T

6.3

5star

CL

6.3

5star

D

25.1

5star

K

11.1

4star

HB

14.0

5star

M

3.6

4star

T

5.6

5star

CL

5.9

5star

D

19.2

5star

K

4.6

2star

HB

14.6

5star

M

2.0

3star

T

4.4

5star

CL

3.8

5star

is most likely back this week.

I honestly think he should switch codes to Union. The Wallabies need all the bloody good throwers they can get

 

[Accidental genius]

Ideally pitto/tdk can use their heights and take more marks. Need more in this department particular while H and Gov are out. Charlie battled on well but he could have used some help.

 

[HyphensBack]

Based on how much I and others get concerned when we see posts in the Injury thread I have stuck in this thread - cause we all want these guys for this game but let’s be realistic

Chances of players back based on commentary by Club to date (anyone strongly disagree or got an alternate view?):

Player​	Injury​	Likely Return
Adam Cerra	Hamstring	Round 24 Will be sidelined for the next 2-3 weeks. (Update: 31 July)
Corey Durdin	Shoulder	Round 22
Matt Kennedy	Knee	Round 24 if finals aren’t a lock?? Remains a chance to be available late in the season. (Update: 31 July)
Harry McKay	Knee	Round 24 if finals aren’t a lock?? Expected to be sidelined for the next 6-8 weeks. (Update: 17 July)
Jack Silvagni	Knee	Round 22 or ???? ???????????? (Update: 24 July)
Sam Walsh	Hamstring	Round 23 is expected to miss the next 2-3 weeks. (Update: 24 July)

I think we need a Key Forward desperately - would love Harry but think JSOS would be great to provide another marking option - send TDK as key ruck and drop Pitt - anyone else think JSOS is a chance?

 

[Benaly28]

Dees havent been flash in the last two games however having so much quality out against a bonafide top 2/4 side is going to be difficult but we are talking about the NEW Carlton.


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[Bryce Bubbles]

Didn't say anything about best 22. Talking about the whole list.

You make a good point. Mis read it

 

[jezza25]

Who takes Petracca when he’s forward. Tough match up

 

[Jeremias]

Who takes Petracca when he’s forward. Tough match up

Suspect it would have been Gov had he been fit. Marchy probably next option but I'm not convinced he should hold his spot, he was very poor yesterday.

 

[HarryFlashman]

Would you rather Boyd or Fisher on Pickett?
It’s true Fisher would provide greater offence … defensively Boyd is much better.
Newman gets Melksham and Saad takes Neal-Bullen/Chandler?
Will be interesting to see selection if Kemp gets up.

If Pickett plays a very good game neither will really stop him, Fish will torch him if he plays an avg one. He’s one of the few players going round who won’t beat him for strength.
Boyd has shown promise but hasn’t inflicted any real “hurt”, Fish has been around a lot longer, is smarter & could.
Boyd as sub wouldn’t be the worst idea.

 

[HarryFlashman]

Who takes Petracca when he’s forward. Tough match up

Cinc, all Italian battle to the death. Don’t think Cinc will win but he’ll die trying, he’s strong enough to at worst slow him down. Think a tough match up will bring out the best in him too