Rumour 2023 Rumours and Speculation (Rumours total 33!, 1 BIG FISH ALERT last October 4th) (7 confirmed! 11 Busted!)

[Mr_Moogle]

It's hard to judge what the criteria is.
Goodwin, Tex, Modra all in conversation

If we're including players with shorter careers at the club like Mods, Darren Jarman's finals record means he shouldn't drop out of the top 5.

 

[Firewalker]

It's hard to judge what the criteria is.
Goodwin, Tex, Modra all in conversation

He’s gone well past Modra now just through longevity;

Mcleod
Roo
Goodwin
Walker
D.Jarman

Then
Modra
B.Hart
S.Thompson
Smart
Rehn

 

[Bearded Clam]

You’re all comparing players from different era’s though..

if Tex hadve played his current 250-300 games in the 90’s he’d have more than likely kicked 100 goals or more in a season a few times already and have 1000 goals to his name.

then we’d all be definitely holding him in top 3 Crows players of all time.

the game has changed.. full forward isnt the position it once was.

to be kicking 600-700 goals in your career as a forward these days is an awesome effort..

 

[Firewalker]

You’re all comparing players from different era’s though..

if Tex hadve played his current 250-300 games in the 90’s he’d have more than likely kicked 100 goals or more in a season a few times already and have 1000 goals to his name.

then we’d all be definitely holding him in top 3 Crows players of all time.

the game has changed.. full forward isnt the position it once was.

to be kicking 600-700 goals in your career as a forward these days is an awesome effort..

Agree, but have him just below Goodwin.

Goodwin was a damn serious baller, like in a team with 2 of the most generational talents in Roo and McLeod in their prime and he was probably more consistent & outshone them a lot of the time through that era.

 

[Hodgy]

He’s gone well past Modra now just through longevity;

Mcleod
Roo
Goodwin
Walker
D.Jarman

Then
Modra
B.Hart
S.Thompson
Smart
Rehn

Modra
McLeod
Hart
D Jarman
Dangerfield
Betts
Roo
Burton
Tex
Johncock


Laird and Dawson will end up in there


If you count their whole career then M Dermott and A Jarman would also be around the mark.

 

[Cap]

If we're including players with shorter careers at the club like Mods, Darren Jarman's finals record means he shouldn't drop out of the top 5.

If we make finals next year and he performs he's got to considered top 5.

It's a shame we've spent the last 7 years not playing finals. Outside the obvious frustration for us supporters

 

[jackster83]

Agree, but have him just below Goodwin.

Goodwin was a damn serious baller, like in a team with 2 of the most generational talents in Roo and McLeod in their prime and he was probably more consistent & outshone them a lot of the time through that era.

Goodwin was a 5x AA.

We'd do unspeakable things to get someone like that on our list now lol.

 

[Samcro24]

Too many Cook’s spoil ……………

The brothel

 

[Betts are off]

Modra vs Tex careers is a fascinating debate.

Personally I'd take Tex's career over Mod's.

But if you gave me 1 player at their peak for 1 season. It's Modra by the length of the flemington straight.

Anyone who was too young to have missed what Modra did at his peak should go back and watch those seasons. That man was a human cheat code. And as fun to watch as any player in AFL history!

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

I'm genuinely surprised I haven't seen Matthew Smith's name come up

Well he was forgettable!

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Is Tex third best Crow of all time after Roo and McLeod? He'd have to be bloody close.

Yeah, Tex is in the discussion for 3rd best ever Crows behind Roo & Macca.

 

[Crow till I die]

Modra vs Tex careers is a fascinating debate.

Personally I'd take Tex's career over Mod's.

But if you gave me 1 player at their peak for 1 season. It's Modra by the length of the flemington straight.

Anyone who was too young to have missed what Modra did at his peak should go back and watch those seasons. That man was a human cheat code. And as fun to watch as any player in AFL history!

Modra was unbelievable. What i do love watching with tex is his elite field kicking and long range goal kicking off either foot. Outside of D Jarman have we had a player with such a range of kicking?

 

[Anzacpaul]

My favorite player we have ever had to watch was D Jarman..he could split the head of a pin with his kicking and he was so laconic...but also when forward in that GF - he was devastating.

There is an interview of his a long while back about that GF where he saw Jamie Shanahan head to fullback and he thought it was like Christmas had come early as he knew Shanahan didn't have the guile or craft to stop him.

Enjoy the great man at work

love how much more free the game seemed back then.

 

[nerRADIAN]

jesus, Roo is like 7 time AA, could play behind, on and in front of the ball. No way Tex is close to him in any way. It's a Roo/Macca coin toss for 1/2 and then we can start discussing the rest.

AA (like the brownlow) is not a useful metric to compare players of differing positions. Roo can potentially fill all the AA midfield slots, forward and bench slots. KPF's generally only get 2 slots in the AA team.

If you cant use stats or accolades to compare them, then it has to be objective. You could argue that Walker is more skilled and can do things that no other KPF, let alone roo could do.

 

[jenny61_99]

Nope

You can’t say nope, that is MY opinion.

 

[jenny61_99]

Not a chance ....you're allowing Recency Bias to overshadow Roo's career

I'd have Modra over Walker too .....does John Coleman not get legend status because he only played 98 games versus Modra's 118 AFC games

What part of this being my opinion don’t you understand? You can have whoever you like. In MY BOOK Tex is my modern day favourite player and second behind McLeod overall.

 

[Jirkago75]

Modra vs Tex careers is a fascinating debate.

Personally I'd take Tex's career over Mod's.

But if you gave me 1 player at their peak for 1 season. It's Modra by the length of the flemington straight.

Anyone who was too young to have missed what Modra did at his peak should go back and watch those seasons. That man was a human cheat code. And as fun to watch as any player in AFL history!

How many great marks did he take at speed and on the shoulders of opposing players. He was just amazing until Worsfold cleaned him up


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[El Doederino]

Not a chance ....you're allowing Recency Bias to overshadow Roo's career

I'd have Modra over Walker too .....does John Coleman not get legend status because he only played 98 games versus Modra's 118 AFC games

The top 4 is McLeod Roo Modra and D Jarman and there really is no debate on it.

 

[Mutineer]

Modra
McLeod
Hart
D Jarman
Dangerfield
Betts
Roo
Burton
Tex
Johncock


Laird and Dawson will end up in there


If you count their whole career then M Dermott and A Jarman would also be around the mark.

Burton and Johncock before Nigel Smart? And a bigger contributor than McDermott and A Jarman as well. Some of the work Nigel did as an undersized KPD on elite KPF's turning defense into attack puts him above those 4 IMO.

 

[FR0GGY]

Modra
McLeod
Hart
D Jarman
Dangerfield
Betts
Roo
Burton
Tex
Johncock


Laird and Dawson will end up in there


If you count their whole career then M Dermott and A Jarman would also be around the mark.

Burton above Tex? Taking the piss surely?

 

[Gtowncrow]

So the rumours thread has degenerated into a nostalgic reminiscence of the glory days.
It's going to be a long summer...

 

[Mutineer]

So the rumours thread has degenerated into a nostalgic reminiscence of the glory days.
It's going to be a long summer...

We're all just waiting with baited breathe for some more of Viva La Mattner's player movement intel...

 

[1990crow]

We're all just waiting with baited breathe for some more of Viva La Mattner's player movement intel...

Hey. It's better than having to put up with Chris Burgess being our only acquisition and pick 9 which will blow out to 14.

 

[Mutineer]

Hey. It's better than having to put up with Chris Burgess being our only acquisition and pick 9 which will blow out to 14.

LOL, just wait for after the Grand Final/trade week before getting all disappointed, the crew will be busy in the background.

You live in Victoria so you can watch Burgess, Chol and Hollands on Channel 7 Sunday at 3.10PM or stream it at the AFL website or on the AFL app.

 

[Mr MysteryGuest]

You’re all comparing players from different era’s though..

if Tex hadve played his current 250-300 games in the 90’s he’d have more than likely kicked 100 goals or more in a season a few times already and have 1000 goals to his name.

then we’d all be definitely holding him in top 3 Crows players of all time.

the game has changed.. full forward isnt the position it once was.

to be kicking 600-700 goals in your career as a forward these days is an awesome effort..

I didn’t grow up watching football in the 90’s but a 1000 goals seems a huge stretch. Maybe you could an extra 100 to his tally over the journey.

But the flip side is that injury recovery probably wasn’t as consistently successful as it is now. And Tex’s knee might have been worse