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The List Manager: Jon Ralph runs the rule over Brisbane’s current group, its future and everything in between​

How many genuine cracks do the Lions have left before their premiership window shuts? Jon Ralph digs deep into the Brisbane list – and the big future decisions – to find a surprising answer.
Jon Ralph

How many times can Brisbane launch a deep finals run without holding up the cup until this premiership window slams firmly shut?

It is valid question, until you drill deeper into the Brisbane list demographic and realise how successfully the Lions have bucked footy’s equalisation measures.

The Lions came up short on grand final day and have now played in five successive finals campaigns for a grand final loss (2023), preliminary final loss (2022), one-point semi-final loss (2021), preliminary final loss (2020) and three-point semi-final loss (2019).

And yet, through free agency, the father-son system, canny recruiting and the development of an elite culture where players like Josh Dunkley want to move north, Brisbane should have another five cracks at the title.

Consider their three 19-year-olds — Will Ashcroft, Darcy Wilmot and Jaspa Fletcher.

Their 21 to 25-year-olds — Keidean Coleman, Hugh McCluggage, Jack Payne, Noah Answerth, Brandon Starcevich, Cam Rayner and Zac Bailey.

And the elite talents like Dunkley and reigning best-and-fairest winner Harris Andrews who are still only 26.

So Brisbane might have bungled the chance to pull the 2023 premiership from Collingwood’s grasp with Dan McStay out injured, Nathan Murphy concussed and the game still up for grabs until Jarrod Berry handed Steele Sidebottom the 50m penalty which sealed the grand final.

But this side is not going quietly into the night any time soon.

TRADE PERIOD​

Rating: 7/10

The Lions paid more than reported for Tom Doedee — underbidder Collingwood believed it was north of $750,000 a year — but Brisbane thought there was so much to like about the Adelaide interceptor.

He is a champion of a human being, solid friends with many of their Vic Country recruits and, at 26, the perfect hybrid defender or third tall to play alongside Andrews and Jack Payne until 2030.

They are aware of the risk profile of twin ACL repairs but believe his diligence to rehab will help as he and Ashcroft work through their recoveries together.

And having scouted him heavily in the back-end of 2022 and early this year pre ACL-tear, they love his role as an on-field organiser prepared to be selfless with his on-field roles.

He also made an instant impact after his first ACL tear so the hope is he gets back and in form by the time the Lions hit September next year.

From there, the Lions gave away key tall Tom Fullarton for Melbourne’s pick 47, aware he was unlikely to play a meaningful role next year.

And they turned 32-year-old Jack Gunston into 26-year-old Brandon Ryan for a swap of picks that included their future second-rounder.

The Lions looked more damaging with Cam Rayner as the third tall in attack so it potentially saves some awkward selection decisions if Gunston was fit and available early next year.

Gunston is one of a trio of plus-30s to move on (including Dan Rich and Marcus Adams), so the Lions get younger, bring in a player more likely to play seniors in Ryan and don’t give up the world.

All in all, a very solid trade and free agency period.

LIST HOLES​

The pitch to Doedee was very similar to Josh Dunkley 12 months before.

We aren’t going anywhere.

The Lions are a well-run club, have matchwinners on every line, and now have an excellent list demographic with depth in every area.

In defence, Andrews, Payne and Lester are defensive locks but Darcy Gardiner’s finals were impressive and Doedee will slot in mid-season.

Oscar McInerney has Darcy Fort as ruck cover, while Joe Daniher seemed to play with greater freedom taking his turn in the centre square.

Ex-Hawks mid-season draftee Ryan has only three AFL games as a late bloomer, but showed with three goals against Collingwood in round 21 he has vast potential.

The midfield badly missed extractor Ashcroft when he tore his ACL in round 19, but bats deep — dual Brownlow Medallist Neale, McCluggage, Dunkley, Ashcroft, Fletcher, Rayner and Bailey pinch-hitting.

The list is far from perfect and, as well as 34-year-old Dayne Zorko, has Neale at 30, and Daniher and Charlie Cameron turning 30 next year.

Chris Fagan told his charges in the grand final review that while only a handful of them had Grand Final experience entering the game — Dunkley, Cameron and Neale — now 23 of them had lived that day.

It will steel them and motivate them, given some thrived and others blew their lines.

So the Lions won’t get chances forever, but should be at their absolute peak for the next three years with no cliff coming when Neale and Daniher retire.

DRAFT STRATEGY​

The Lions’ first pick is 30 followed by 39, 51, 54, 67 and 97.

They plan to take between two and four picks, depending upon how the draft falls.

Next year’s blue-chip investment is Levi Ashcroft, one of a collection of elite mids which populate the 2024 national draft.

The youngest son of premiership hero Marcus should slot nicely into the midfield, alongside his brother, as another top-10 pick.

But having given away the future second-rounder for Ryan, they will keep their future first-rounder to retain points for Ashcroft.

As a pick likely to slot into the 2024 national draft at 15-20 it holds little appeal for rivals so Brisbane won’t try to use it to get further up this year’s draft order either.

Having nailed enough of their recent draft picks — Ashcroft (pick 1), Fletcher (pick 12), Wilmot (pick 16), Coleman (pick 37), Rayner (pick 1), Bailey (pick 15), McCluggage (pick 3 — there is no pressing positional need in this year’s national draft.

WHO’S UNDER THE PUMP​

Rayner had another year full of exciting cameos, but also flat spots, caused in part by him playing multiple positions as a small forward who goes into the midfield.

He kicked 23 goals in 26 games, averaged only 68 ranking points and 14 possessions and while he kicked three goals in the qualifying final was goalless in the prelim and grand final with only 20 combined possessions in those final two games.

It is his cross to bear as a versatile player.

Question — does he have more talent than Bobby Hill?

Most would answer in the affirmative and, yet, while Hill dominated on the big stage, Rayner didn’t come up big in the same fashion.

PREMIERSHIP WINDOW​

The Lions have got lucky in the father-son sweepstakes — Ashcroft, Fletcher and another Ashcroft to come. Mark down Fletcher for 200 glorious games. It means this club should believe it can challenge through to 2030.

TRADE TARGETS FOR 2024​

Father-son Levi Ashcroft will take up most of their draft capital as a clone of his brother — scrounging the ball from the bottom of packs, using his hands to bring teammates into play.

He even played three Vic Metro Under-18 championship games as a bottom-ager this year and averaged 27 possessions.

But the Lions have shown they are always on the lookout.

This year it was Doedee, last year it was Irishman Conor McKenna and Dunkley.

As a destination club with a strong history of getting the best out of injury-prone players, don’t sleep on them come trade time next year.

TRADE BAIT​

The Lions are yet to broker a new deal with free agent McCluggage.

He’s not a top-10 AFL midfielder but he’s highly consistent, highly durable (averaging 21 games a year), he’s a leader and he’s worthy of a six-year extension on $1 million a season through to 2023.

It’s crazy money, but he would have 17 teams knocking down manager David Trotter’s door if they low-balled him and the contract drifted to July.

Kidean Coleman’s breakout year — and first half in the grand final – ups his price and a three-year deal would get him through to free agency.

Others out of contract include Brandon Starcevich, Jarrod Berry, Noah Answerth and Linc McCarthy.

Dev Robertson and Kai Lohmann signed on again but if they don’t get senior opportunities someone will keep asking the questions.

CAP SPACE​

For a team in premiership contention, the Lions took advantage of the CBA rise to offer Doedee his lucrative four-year deal and don’t have any dramatic back-ended deals that will hurt them in coming seasons.

They don’t need to jettison players and had room to pay Darcy Fort overs for his role as what is, in effect, a back-up ruckman on a two-year deal, just as an NFL team rewards their back-up quarterback in case of emergency.

So they are in an excellent spot, having paid Dunkley good, but not ridiculous, money and extended players like Eric Hipwood on six-year extension but relatively modest financial terms.

TOP 100 IN PLAYER RATINGS AND A 2024 BOLTER​

Lachie Neale (32nd), Oscar McInerney (49th), Harris Andrews (54th), Joe Daniher (73rd), Zac Bailey (83rd), Will Ashcroft (99th), Hugh McCluggage (100th). McCluggage started slowly then roared home in the Grand Final. Third in the best-and-fairest but can he take game to a new level?
 
Very good summary by Ralph, agree with him re our flag window being open for a fair while yet.

Neale, Cameron and Daniher "replacements" are what we may need to keep our window open for that 5 years.... however all 3 could realistically see out that 5 years or very close to, with modern training/rehab/game management strategies it is feasible IMO.
 
tony said:

The List Manager: Jon Ralph runs the rule over Brisbane’s current group, its future and everything in between​

How many genuine cracks do the Lions have left before their premiership window shuts? Jon Ralph digs deep into the Brisbane list – and the big future decisions – to find a surprising answer.
Jon Ralph

How many times can Brisbane launch a deep finals run without holding up the cup until this premiership window slams firmly shut?

It is valid question, until you drill deeper into the Brisbane list demographic and realise how successfully the Lions have bucked footy’s equalisation measures.

The Lions came up short on grand final day and have now played in five successive finals campaigns for a grand final loss (2023), preliminary final loss (2022), one-point semi-final loss (2021), preliminary final loss (2020) and three-point semi-final loss (2019).

And yet, through free agency, the father-son system, canny recruiting and the development of an elite culture where players like Josh Dunkley want to move north, Brisbane should have another five cracks at the title.

Consider their three 19-year-olds — Will Ashcroft, Darcy Wilmot and Jaspa Fletcher.

Their 21 to 25-year-olds — Keidean Coleman, Hugh McCluggage, Jack Payne, Noah Answerth, Brandon Starcevich, Cam Rayner and Zac Bailey.

And the elite talents like Dunkley and reigning best-and-fairest winner Harris Andrews who are still only 26.

So Brisbane might have bungled the chance to pull the 2023 premiership from Collingwood’s grasp with Dan McStay out injured, Nathan Murphy concussed and the game still up for grabs until Jarrod Berry handed Steele Sidebottom the 50m penalty which sealed the grand final.

But this side is not going quietly into the night any time soon.

TRADE PERIOD​

Rating: 7/10

The Lions paid more than reported for Tom Doedee — underbidder Collingwood believed it was north of $750,000 a year — but Brisbane thought there was so much to like about the Adelaide interceptor.

He is a champion of a human being, solid friends with many of their Vic Country recruits and, at 26, the perfect hybrid defender or third tall to play alongside Andrews and Jack Payne until 2030.

They are aware of the risk profile of twin ACL repairs but believe his diligence to rehab will help as he and Ashcroft work through their recoveries together.

And having scouted him heavily in the back-end of 2022 and early this year pre ACL-tear, they love his role as an on-field organiser prepared to be selfless with his on-field roles.

He also made an instant impact after his first ACL tear so the hope is he gets back and in form by the time the Lions hit September next year.

From there, the Lions gave away key tall Tom Fullarton for Melbourne’s pick 47, aware he was unlikely to play a meaningful role next year.

And they turned 32-year-old Jack Gunston into 26-year-old Brandon Ryan for a swap of picks that included their future second-rounder.

The Lions looked more damaging with Cam Rayner as the third tall in attack so it potentially saves some awkward selection decisions if Gunston was fit and available early next year.

Gunston is one of a trio of plus-30s to move on (including Dan Rich and Marcus Adams), so the Lions get younger, bring in a player more likely to play seniors in Ryan and don’t give up the world.

All in all, a very solid trade and free agency period.

LIST HOLES​

The pitch to Doedee was very similar to Josh Dunkley 12 months before.

We aren’t going anywhere.

The Lions are a well-run club, have matchwinners on every line, and now have an excellent list demographic with depth in every area.

In defence, Andrews, Payne and Lester are defensive locks but Darcy Gardiner’s finals were impressive and Doedee will slot in mid-season.

Oscar McInerney has Darcy Fort as ruck cover, while Joe Daniher seemed to play with greater freedom taking his turn in the centre square.

Ex-Hawks mid-season draftee Ryan has only three AFL games as a late bloomer, but showed with three goals against Collingwood in round 21 he has vast potential.

The midfield badly missed extractor Ashcroft when he tore his ACL in round 19, but bats deep — dual Brownlow Medallist Neale, McCluggage, Dunkley, Ashcroft, Fletcher, Rayner and Bailey pinch-hitting.

The list is far from perfect and, as well as 34-year-old Dayne Zorko, has Neale at 30, and Daniher and Charlie Cameron turning 30 next year.

Chris Fagan told his charges in the grand final review that while only a handful of them had Grand Final experience entering the game — Dunkley, Cameron and Neale — now 23 of them had lived that day.

It will steel them and motivate them, given some thrived and others blew their lines.

So the Lions won’t get chances forever, but should be at their absolute peak for the next three years with no cliff coming when Neale and Daniher retire.

DRAFT STRATEGY​

The Lions’ first pick is 30 followed by 39, 51, 54, 67 and 97.

They plan to take between two and four picks, depending upon how the draft falls.

Next year’s blue-chip investment is Levi Ashcroft, one of a collection of elite mids which populate the 2024 national draft.

The youngest son of premiership hero Marcus should slot nicely into the midfield, alongside his brother, as another top-10 pick.

But having given away the future second-rounder for Ryan, they will keep their future first-rounder to retain points for Ashcroft.

As a pick likely to slot into the 2024 national draft at 15-20 it holds little appeal for rivals so Brisbane won’t try to use it to get further up this year’s draft order either.

Having nailed enough of their recent draft picks — Ashcroft (pick 1), Fletcher (pick 12), Wilmot (pick 16), Coleman (pick 37), Rayner (pick 1), Bailey (pick 15), McCluggage (pick 3 — there is no pressing positional need in this year’s national draft.

WHO’S UNDER THE PUMP​

Rayner had another year full of exciting cameos, but also flat spots, caused in part by him playing multiple positions as a small forward who goes into the midfield.

He kicked 23 goals in 26 games, averaged only 68 ranking points and 14 possessions and while he kicked three goals in the qualifying final was goalless in the prelim and grand final with only 20 combined possessions in those final two games.

It is his cross to bear as a versatile player.

Question — does he have more talent than Bobby Hill?

Most would answer in the affirmative and, yet, while Hill dominated on the big stage, Rayner didn’t come up big in the same fashion.

PREMIERSHIP WINDOW​

The Lions have got lucky in the father-son sweepstakes — Ashcroft, Fletcher and another Ashcroft to come. Mark down Fletcher for 200 glorious games. It means this club should believe it can challenge through to 2030.

TRADE TARGETS FOR 2024​

Father-son Levi Ashcroft will take up most of their draft capital as a clone of his brother — scrounging the ball from the bottom of packs, using his hands to bring teammates into play.

He even played three Vic Metro Under-18 championship games as a bottom-ager this year and averaged 27 possessions.

But the Lions have shown they are always on the lookout.

This year it was Doedee, last year it was Irishman Conor McKenna and Dunkley.

As a destination club with a strong history of getting the best out of injury-prone players, don’t sleep on them come trade time next year.

TRADE BAIT​

The Lions are yet to broker a new deal with free agent McCluggage.

He’s not a top-10 AFL midfielder but he’s highly consistent, highly durable (averaging 21 games a year), he’s a leader and he’s worthy of a six-year extension on $1 million a season through to 2023.

It’s crazy money, but he would have 17 teams knocking down manager David Trotter’s door if they low-balled him and the contract drifted to July.

Kidean Coleman’s breakout year — and first half in the grand final – ups his price and a three-year deal would get him through to free agency.

Others out of contract include Brandon Starcevich, Jarrod Berry, Noah Answerth and Linc McCarthy.

Dev Robertson and Kai Lohmann signed on again but if they don’t get senior opportunities someone will keep asking the questions.

CAP SPACE​

For a team in premiership contention, the Lions took advantage of the CBA rise to offer Doedee his lucrative four-year deal and don’t have any dramatic back-ended deals that will hurt them in coming seasons.

They don’t need to jettison players and had room to pay Darcy Fort overs for his role as what is, in effect, a back-up ruckman on a two-year deal, just as an NFL team rewards their back-up quarterback in case of emergency.

So they are in an excellent spot, having paid Dunkley good, but not ridiculous, money and extended players like Eric Hipwood on six-year extension but relatively modest financial terms.

TOP 100 IN PLAYER RATINGS AND A 2024 BOLTER​

Lachie Neale (32nd), Oscar McInerney (49th), Harris Andrews (54th), Joe Daniher (73rd), Zac Bailey (83rd), Will Ashcroft (99th), Hugh McCluggage (100th). McCluggage started slowly then roared home in the Grand Final. Third in the best-and-fairest but can he take game to a new level?
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Good summary. Only need I see with the draft is a couple of young talls coming through, bar Henry Smith there’s nothing really coming through there. This is something Dom said would be looked at this draft in an interview on SEN early this season.
 
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tony said:

The List Manager: Jon Ralph runs the rule over Brisbane’s current group, its future and everything in between​

How many genuine cracks do the Lions have left before their premiership window shuts? Jon Ralph digs deep into the Brisbane list – and the big future decisions – to find a surprising answer.
Jon Ralph

How many times can Brisbane launch a deep finals run without holding up the cup until this premiership window slams firmly shut?

It is valid question, until you drill deeper into the Brisbane list demographic and realise how successfully the Lions have bucked footy’s equalisation measures.

The Lions came up short on grand final day and have now played in five successive finals campaigns for a grand final loss (2023), preliminary final loss (2022), one-point semi-final loss (2021), preliminary final loss (2020) and three-point semi-final loss (2019).

And yet, through free agency, the father-son system, canny recruiting and the development of an elite culture where players like Josh Dunkley want to move north, Brisbane should have another five cracks at the title.

Consider their three 19-year-olds — Will Ashcroft, Darcy Wilmot and Jaspa Fletcher.

Their 21 to 25-year-olds — Keidean Coleman, Hugh McCluggage, Jack Payne, Noah Answerth, Brandon Starcevich, Cam Rayner and Zac Bailey.

And the elite talents like Dunkley and reigning best-and-fairest winner Harris Andrews who are still only 26.

So Brisbane might have bungled the chance to pull the 2023 premiership from Collingwood’s grasp with Dan McStay out injured, Nathan Murphy concussed and the game still up for grabs until Jarrod Berry handed Steele Sidebottom the 50m penalty which sealed the grand final.

But this side is not going quietly into the night any time soon.

TRADE PERIOD​

Rating: 7/10

The Lions paid more than reported for Tom Doedee — underbidder Collingwood believed it was north of $750,000 a year — but Brisbane thought there was so much to like about the Adelaide interceptor.

He is a champion of a human being, solid friends with many of their Vic Country recruits and, at 26, the perfect hybrid defender or third tall to play alongside Andrews and Jack Payne until 2030.

They are aware of the risk profile of twin ACL repairs but believe his diligence to rehab will help as he and Ashcroft work through their recoveries together.

And having scouted him heavily in the back-end of 2022 and early this year pre ACL-tear, they love his role as an on-field organiser prepared to be selfless with his on-field roles.

He also made an instant impact after his first ACL tear so the hope is he gets back and in form by the time the Lions hit September next year.

From there, the Lions gave away key tall Tom Fullarton for Melbourne’s pick 47, aware he was unlikely to play a meaningful role next year.

And they turned 32-year-old Jack Gunston into 26-year-old Brandon Ryan for a swap of picks that included their future second-rounder.

The Lions looked more damaging with Cam Rayner as the third tall in attack so it potentially saves some awkward selection decisions if Gunston was fit and available early next year.

Gunston is one of a trio of plus-30s to move on (including Dan Rich and Marcus Adams), so the Lions get younger, bring in a player more likely to play seniors in Ryan and don’t give up the world.

All in all, a very solid trade and free agency period.

LIST HOLES​

The pitch to Doedee was very similar to Josh Dunkley 12 months before.

We aren’t going anywhere.

The Lions are a well-run club, have matchwinners on every line, and now have an excellent list demographic with depth in every area.

In defence, Andrews, Payne and Lester are defensive locks but Darcy Gardiner’s finals were impressive and Doedee will slot in mid-season.

Oscar McInerney has Darcy Fort as ruck cover, while Joe Daniher seemed to play with greater freedom taking his turn in the centre square.

Ex-Hawks mid-season draftee Ryan has only three AFL games as a late bloomer, but showed with three goals against Collingwood in round 21 he has vast potential.

The midfield badly missed extractor Ashcroft when he tore his ACL in round 19, but bats deep — dual Brownlow Medallist Neale, McCluggage, Dunkley, Ashcroft, Fletcher, Rayner and Bailey pinch-hitting.

The list is far from perfect and, as well as 34-year-old Dayne Zorko, has Neale at 30, and Daniher and Charlie Cameron turning 30 next year.

Chris Fagan told his charges in the grand final review that while only a handful of them had Grand Final experience entering the game — Dunkley, Cameron and Neale — now 23 of them had lived that day.

It will steel them and motivate them, given some thrived and others blew their lines.

So the Lions won’t get chances forever, but should be at their absolute peak for the next three years with no cliff coming when Neale and Daniher retire.

DRAFT STRATEGY​

The Lions’ first pick is 30 followed by 39, 51, 54, 67 and 97.

They plan to take between two and four picks, depending upon how the draft falls.

Next year’s blue-chip investment is Levi Ashcroft, one of a collection of elite mids which populate the 2024 national draft.

The youngest son of premiership hero Marcus should slot nicely into the midfield, alongside his brother, as another top-10 pick.

But having given away the future second-rounder for Ryan, they will keep their future first-rounder to retain points for Ashcroft.

As a pick likely to slot into the 2024 national draft at 15-20 it holds little appeal for rivals so Brisbane won’t try to use it to get further up this year’s draft order either.

Having nailed enough of their recent draft picks — Ashcroft (pick 1), Fletcher (pick 12), Wilmot (pick 16), Coleman (pick 37), Rayner (pick 1), Bailey (pick 15), McCluggage (pick 3 — there is no pressing positional need in this year’s national draft.

WHO’S UNDER THE PUMP​

Rayner had another year full of exciting cameos, but also flat spots, caused in part by him playing multiple positions as a small forward who goes into the midfield.

He kicked 23 goals in 26 games, averaged only 68 ranking points and 14 possessions and while he kicked three goals in the qualifying final was goalless in the prelim and grand final with only 20 combined possessions in those final two games.

It is his cross to bear as a versatile player.

Question — does he have more talent than Bobby Hill?

Most would answer in the affirmative and, yet, while Hill dominated on the big stage, Rayner didn’t come up big in the same fashion.

PREMIERSHIP WINDOW​

The Lions have got lucky in the father-son sweepstakes — Ashcroft, Fletcher and another Ashcroft to come. Mark down Fletcher for 200 glorious games. It means this club should believe it can challenge through to 2030.

TRADE TARGETS FOR 2024​

Father-son Levi Ashcroft will take up most of their draft capital as a clone of his brother — scrounging the ball from the bottom of packs, using his hands to bring teammates into play.

He even played three Vic Metro Under-18 championship games as a bottom-ager this year and averaged 27 possessions.

But the Lions have shown they are always on the lookout.

This year it was Doedee, last year it was Irishman Conor McKenna and Dunkley.

As a destination club with a strong history of getting the best out of injury-prone players, don’t sleep on them come trade time next year.

TRADE BAIT​

The Lions are yet to broker a new deal with free agent McCluggage.

He’s not a top-10 AFL midfielder but he’s highly consistent, highly durable (averaging 21 games a year), he’s a leader and he’s worthy of a six-year extension on $1 million a season through to 2023.

It’s crazy money, but he would have 17 teams knocking down manager David Trotter’s door if they low-balled him and the contract drifted to July.

Kidean Coleman’s breakout year — and first half in the grand final – ups his price and a three-year deal would get him through to free agency.

Others out of contract include Brandon Starcevich, Jarrod Berry, Noah Answerth and Linc McCarthy.

Dev Robertson and Kai Lohmann signed on again but if they don’t get senior opportunities someone will keep asking the questions.

CAP SPACE​

For a team in premiership contention, the Lions took advantage of the CBA rise to offer Doedee his lucrative four-year deal and don’t have any dramatic back-ended deals that will hurt them in coming seasons.

They don’t need to jettison players and had room to pay Darcy Fort overs for his role as what is, in effect, a back-up ruckman on a two-year deal, just as an NFL team rewards their back-up quarterback in case of emergency.

So they are in an excellent spot, having paid Dunkley good, but not ridiculous, money and extended players like Eric Hipwood on six-year extension but relatively modest financial terms.

TOP 100 IN PLAYER RATINGS AND A 2024 BOLTER​

Lachie Neale (32nd), Oscar McInerney (49th), Harris Andrews (54th), Joe Daniher (73rd), Zac Bailey (83rd), Will Ashcroft (99th), Hugh McCluggage (100th). McCluggage started slowly then roared home in the Grand Final. Third in the best-and-fairest but can he take game to a new level?
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A good article by Ralph - given most of these types of articles are just fluff.
 
tony said:

The List Manager: Jon Ralph runs the rule over Brisbane’s current group, its future and everything in between​

How many genuine cracks do the Lions have left before their premiership window shuts? Jon Ralph digs deep into the Brisbane list – and the big future decisions – to find a surprising answer.
Jon Ralph

How many times can Brisbane launch a deep finals run without holding up the cup until this premiership window slams firmly shut?

It is valid question, until you drill deeper into the Brisbane list demographic and realise how successfully the Lions have bucked footy’s equalisation measures.

The Lions came up short on grand final day and have now played in five successive finals campaigns for a grand final loss (2023), preliminary final loss (2022), one-point semi-final loss (2021), preliminary final loss (2020) and three-point semi-final loss (2019).

And yet, through free agency, the father-son system, canny recruiting and the development of an elite culture where players like Josh Dunkley want to move north, Brisbane should have another five cracks at the title.

Consider their three 19-year-olds — Will Ashcroft, Darcy Wilmot and Jaspa Fletcher.

Their 21 to 25-year-olds — Keidean Coleman, Hugh McCluggage, Jack Payne, Noah Answerth, Brandon Starcevich, Cam Rayner and Zac Bailey.

And the elite talents like Dunkley and reigning best-and-fairest winner Harris Andrews who are still only 26.

So Brisbane might have bungled the chance to pull the 2023 premiership from Collingwood’s grasp with Dan McStay out injured, Nathan Murphy concussed and the game still up for grabs until Jarrod Berry handed Steele Sidebottom the 50m penalty which sealed the grand final.

But this side is not going quietly into the night any time soon.

TRADE PERIOD​

Rating: 7/10

The Lions paid more than reported for Tom Doedee — underbidder Collingwood believed it was north of $750,000 a year — but Brisbane thought there was so much to like about the Adelaide interceptor.

He is a champion of a human being, solid friends with many of their Vic Country recruits and, at 26, the perfect hybrid defender or third tall to play alongside Andrews and Jack Payne until 2030.

They are aware of the risk profile of twin ACL repairs but believe his diligence to rehab will help as he and Ashcroft work through their recoveries together.

And having scouted him heavily in the back-end of 2022 and early this year pre ACL-tear, they love his role as an on-field organiser prepared to be selfless with his on-field roles.

He also made an instant impact after his first ACL tear so the hope is he gets back and in form by the time the Lions hit September next year.

From there, the Lions gave away key tall Tom Fullarton for Melbourne’s pick 47, aware he was unlikely to play a meaningful role next year.

And they turned 32-year-old Jack Gunston into 26-year-old Brandon Ryan for a swap of picks that included their future second-rounder.

The Lions looked more damaging with Cam Rayner as the third tall in attack so it potentially saves some awkward selection decisions if Gunston was fit and available early next year.

Gunston is one of a trio of plus-30s to move on (including Dan Rich and Marcus Adams), so the Lions get younger, bring in a player more likely to play seniors in Ryan and don’t give up the world.

All in all, a very solid trade and free agency period.

LIST HOLES​

The pitch to Doedee was very similar to Josh Dunkley 12 months before.

We aren’t going anywhere.

The Lions are a well-run club, have matchwinners on every line, and now have an excellent list demographic with depth in every area.

In defence, Andrews, Payne and Lester are defensive locks but Darcy Gardiner’s finals were impressive and Doedee will slot in mid-season.

Oscar McInerney has Darcy Fort as ruck cover, while Joe Daniher seemed to play with greater freedom taking his turn in the centre square.

Ex-Hawks mid-season draftee Ryan has only three AFL games as a late bloomer, but showed with three goals against Collingwood in round 21 he has vast potential.

The midfield badly missed extractor Ashcroft when he tore his ACL in round 19, but bats deep — dual Brownlow Medallist Neale, McCluggage, Dunkley, Ashcroft, Fletcher, Rayner and Bailey pinch-hitting.

The list is far from perfect and, as well as 34-year-old Dayne Zorko, has Neale at 30, and Daniher and Charlie Cameron turning 30 next year.

Chris Fagan told his charges in the grand final review that while only a handful of them had Grand Final experience entering the game — Dunkley, Cameron and Neale — now 23 of them had lived that day.

It will steel them and motivate them, given some thrived and others blew their lines.

So the Lions won’t get chances forever, but should be at their absolute peak for the next three years with no cliff coming when Neale and Daniher retire.

DRAFT STRATEGY​

The Lions’ first pick is 30 followed by 39, 51, 54, 67 and 97.

They plan to take between two and four picks, depending upon how the draft falls.

Next year’s blue-chip investment is Levi Ashcroft, one of a collection of elite mids which populate the 2024 national draft.

The youngest son of premiership hero Marcus should slot nicely into the midfield, alongside his brother, as another top-10 pick.

But having given away the future second-rounder for Ryan, they will keep their future first-rounder to retain points for Ashcroft.

As a pick likely to slot into the 2024 national draft at 15-20 it holds little appeal for rivals so Brisbane won’t try to use it to get further up this year’s draft order either.

Having nailed enough of their recent draft picks — Ashcroft (pick 1), Fletcher (pick 12), Wilmot (pick 16), Coleman (pick 37), Rayner (pick 1), Bailey (pick 15), McCluggage (pick 3 — there is no pressing positional need in this year’s national draft.

WHO’S UNDER THE PUMP​

Rayner had another year full of exciting cameos, but also flat spots, caused in part by him playing multiple positions as a small forward who goes into the midfield.

He kicked 23 goals in 26 games, averaged only 68 ranking points and 14 possessions and while he kicked three goals in the qualifying final was goalless in the prelim and grand final with only 20 combined possessions in those final two games.

It is his cross to bear as a versatile player.

Question — does he have more talent than Bobby Hill?

Most would answer in the affirmative and, yet, while Hill dominated on the big stage, Rayner didn’t come up big in the same fashion.

PREMIERSHIP WINDOW​

The Lions have got lucky in the father-son sweepstakes — Ashcroft, Fletcher and another Ashcroft to come. Mark down Fletcher for 200 glorious games. It means this club should believe it can challenge through to 2030.

TRADE TARGETS FOR 2024​

Father-son Levi Ashcroft will take up most of their draft capital as a clone of his brother — scrounging the ball from the bottom of packs, using his hands to bring teammates into play.

He even played three Vic Metro Under-18 championship games as a bottom-ager this year and averaged 27 possessions.

But the Lions have shown they are always on the lookout.

This year it was Doedee, last year it was Irishman Conor McKenna and Dunkley.

As a destination club with a strong history of getting the best out of injury-prone players, don’t sleep on them come trade time next year.

TRADE BAIT​

The Lions are yet to broker a new deal with free agent McCluggage.

He’s not a top-10 AFL midfielder but he’s highly consistent, highly durable (averaging 21 games a year), he’s a leader and he’s worthy of a six-year extension on $1 million a season through to 2023.

It’s crazy money, but he would have 17 teams knocking down manager David Trotter’s door if they low-balled him and the contract drifted to July.

Kidean Coleman’s breakout year — and first half in the grand final – ups his price and a three-year deal would get him through to free agency.

Others out of contract include Brandon Starcevich, Jarrod Berry, Noah Answerth and Linc McCarthy.

Dev Robertson and Kai Lohmann signed on again but if they don’t get senior opportunities someone will keep asking the questions.

CAP SPACE​

For a team in premiership contention, the Lions took advantage of the CBA rise to offer Doedee his lucrative four-year deal and don’t have any dramatic back-ended deals that will hurt them in coming seasons.

They don’t need to jettison players and had room to pay Darcy Fort overs for his role as what is, in effect, a back-up ruckman on a two-year deal, just as an NFL team rewards their back-up quarterback in case of emergency.

So they are in an excellent spot, having paid Dunkley good, but not ridiculous, money and extended players like Eric Hipwood on six-year extension but relatively modest financial terms.

TOP 100 IN PLAYER RATINGS AND A 2024 BOLTER​

Lachie Neale (32nd), Oscar McInerney (49th), Harris Andrews (54th), Joe Daniher (73rd), Zac Bailey (83rd), Will Ashcroft (99th), Hugh McCluggage (100th). McCluggage started slowly then roared home in the Grand Final. Third in the best-and-fairest but can he take game to a new level?
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A very positive review. It shows the club really has its head screwed on properly. The salary cap especially seems to be controlled well. Great news there's no back ended deals likely to come back and bite us. Hopefully that allows us to keep players like Clug and Kiddy long term.

If players like Dev n Lohmann can be patient and see a good future for themselves, our team can and will evolve very nicely. I can definitely see Dev benefiting from a big preseason and a pretty much guaranteed best 22 start to the year. He's one player I reckon that will take a big step fwd. Able to relieve Dunkley as our defense minded mid, allowing the Ashcroft boys to take over from Neale as he ages out. Lohmann is only one long term injury to Linc or Charlie from getting a good run of games. Some improvement needed defensively but I believe that can be worked on successfully.

Draft a cpl of kpp's, 1 back n 1 fwd, with a thirst for the contest and a bit of mongrel, and I think we have Joe's retirement and defensive tall stocks covered nicely.

Continue to be a successful team and the ability to trade in quality players when needed remains strong. Ralph suggested our window could extend to 2030 if managed well. I think that's entirely possible. But it's not just the players we need to evolve, we need to have a coaching plan in place as well. Fages time will come to an end and a quality replacement will be needed to carry on. Pick a dud and all comes crashing down.
 
tony said:

The List Manager: Jon Ralph runs the rule over Brisbane’s current group, its future and everything in between​

How many genuine cracks do the Lions have left before their premiership window shuts? Jon Ralph digs deep into the Brisbane list – and the big future decisions – to find a surprising answer.
Jon Ralph

How many times can Brisbane launch a deep finals run without holding up the cup until this premiership window slams firmly shut?

It is valid question, until you drill deeper into the Brisbane list demographic and realise how successfully the Lions have bucked footy’s equalisation measures.

The Lions came up short on grand final day and have now played in five successive finals campaigns for a grand final loss (2023), preliminary final loss (2022), one-point semi-final loss (2021), preliminary final loss (2020) and three-point semi-final loss (2019).

And yet, through free agency, the father-son system, canny recruiting and the development of an elite culture where players like Josh Dunkley want to move north, Brisbane should have another five cracks at the title.

Consider their three 19-year-olds — Will Ashcroft, Darcy Wilmot and Jaspa Fletcher.

Their 21 to 25-year-olds — Keidean Coleman, Hugh McCluggage, Jack Payne, Noah Answerth, Brandon Starcevich, Cam Rayner and Zac Bailey.

And the elite talents like Dunkley and reigning best-and-fairest winner Harris Andrews who are still only 26.

So Brisbane might have bungled the chance to pull the 2023 premiership from Collingwood’s grasp with Dan McStay out injured, Nathan Murphy concussed and the game still up for grabs until Jarrod Berry handed Steele Sidebottom the 50m penalty which sealed the grand final.

But this side is not going quietly into the night any time soon.

TRADE PERIOD​

Rating: 7/10

The Lions paid more than reported for Tom Doedee — underbidder Collingwood believed it was north of $750,000 a year — but Brisbane thought there was so much to like about the Adelaide interceptor.

He is a champion of a human being, solid friends with many of their Vic Country recruits and, at 26, the perfect hybrid defender or third tall to play alongside Andrews and Jack Payne until 2030.

They are aware of the risk profile of twin ACL repairs but believe his diligence to rehab will help as he and Ashcroft work through their recoveries together.

And having scouted him heavily in the back-end of 2022 and early this year pre ACL-tear, they love his role as an on-field organiser prepared to be selfless with his on-field roles.

He also made an instant impact after his first ACL tear so the hope is he gets back and in form by the time the Lions hit September next year.

From there, the Lions gave away key tall Tom Fullarton for Melbourne’s pick 47, aware he was unlikely to play a meaningful role next year.

And they turned 32-year-old Jack Gunston into 26-year-old Brandon Ryan for a swap of picks that included their future second-rounder.

The Lions looked more damaging with Cam Rayner as the third tall in attack so it potentially saves some awkward selection decisions if Gunston was fit and available early next year.

Gunston is one of a trio of plus-30s to move on (including Dan Rich and Marcus Adams), so the Lions get younger, bring in a player more likely to play seniors in Ryan and don’t give up the world.

All in all, a very solid trade and free agency period.

LIST HOLES​

The pitch to Doedee was very similar to Josh Dunkley 12 months before.

We aren’t going anywhere.

The Lions are a well-run club, have matchwinners on every line, and now have an excellent list demographic with depth in every area.

In defence, Andrews, Payne and Lester are defensive locks but Darcy Gardiner’s finals were impressive and Doedee will slot in mid-season.

Oscar McInerney has Darcy Fort as ruck cover, while Joe Daniher seemed to play with greater freedom taking his turn in the centre square.

Ex-Hawks mid-season draftee Ryan has only three AFL games as a late bloomer, but showed with three goals against Collingwood in round 21 he has vast potential.

The midfield badly missed extractor Ashcroft when he tore his ACL in round 19, but bats deep — dual Brownlow Medallist Neale, McCluggage, Dunkley, Ashcroft, Fletcher, Rayner and Bailey pinch-hitting.

The list is far from perfect and, as well as 34-year-old Dayne Zorko, has Neale at 30, and Daniher and Charlie Cameron turning 30 next year.

Chris Fagan told his charges in the grand final review that while only a handful of them had Grand Final experience entering the game — Dunkley, Cameron and Neale — now 23 of them had lived that day.

It will steel them and motivate them, given some thrived and others blew their lines.

So the Lions won’t get chances forever, but should be at their absolute peak for the next three years with no cliff coming when Neale and Daniher retire.

DRAFT STRATEGY​

The Lions’ first pick is 30 followed by 39, 51, 54, 67 and 97.

They plan to take between two and four picks, depending upon how the draft falls.

Next year’s blue-chip investment is Levi Ashcroft, one of a collection of elite mids which populate the 2024 national draft.

The youngest son of premiership hero Marcus should slot nicely into the midfield, alongside his brother, as another top-10 pick.

But having given away the future second-rounder for Ryan, they will keep their future first-rounder to retain points for Ashcroft.

As a pick likely to slot into the 2024 national draft at 15-20 it holds little appeal for rivals so Brisbane won’t try to use it to get further up this year’s draft order either.

Having nailed enough of their recent draft picks — Ashcroft (pick 1), Fletcher (pick 12), Wilmot (pick 16), Coleman (pick 37), Rayner (pick 1), Bailey (pick 15), McCluggage (pick 3 — there is no pressing positional need in this year’s national draft.

WHO’S UNDER THE PUMP​

Rayner had another year full of exciting cameos, but also flat spots, caused in part by him playing multiple positions as a small forward who goes into the midfield.

He kicked 23 goals in 26 games, averaged only 68 ranking points and 14 possessions and while he kicked three goals in the qualifying final was goalless in the prelim and grand final with only 20 combined possessions in those final two games.

It is his cross to bear as a versatile player.

Question — does he have more talent than Bobby Hill?

Most would answer in the affirmative and, yet, while Hill dominated on the big stage, Rayner didn’t come up big in the same fashion.

PREMIERSHIP WINDOW​

The Lions have got lucky in the father-son sweepstakes — Ashcroft, Fletcher and another Ashcroft to come. Mark down Fletcher for 200 glorious games. It means this club should believe it can challenge through to 2030.

TRADE TARGETS FOR 2024​

Father-son Levi Ashcroft will take up most of their draft capital as a clone of his brother — scrounging the ball from the bottom of packs, using his hands to bring teammates into play.

He even played three Vic Metro Under-18 championship games as a bottom-ager this year and averaged 27 possessions.

But the Lions have shown they are always on the lookout.

This year it was Doedee, last year it was Irishman Conor McKenna and Dunkley.

As a destination club with a strong history of getting the best out of injury-prone players, don’t sleep on them come trade time next year.

TRADE BAIT​

The Lions are yet to broker a new deal with free agent McCluggage.

He’s not a top-10 AFL midfielder but he’s highly consistent, highly durable (averaging 21 games a year), he’s a leader and he’s worthy of a six-year extension on $1 million a season through to 2023.

It’s crazy money, but he would have 17 teams knocking down manager David Trotter’s door if they low-balled him and the contract drifted to July.

Kidean Coleman’s breakout year — and first half in the grand final – ups his price and a three-year deal would get him through to free agency.

Others out of contract include Brandon Starcevich, Jarrod Berry, Noah Answerth and Linc McCarthy.

Dev Robertson and Kai Lohmann signed on again but if they don’t get senior opportunities someone will keep asking the questions.

CAP SPACE​

For a team in premiership contention, the Lions took advantage of the CBA rise to offer Doedee his lucrative four-year deal and don’t have any dramatic back-ended deals that will hurt them in coming seasons.

They don’t need to jettison players and had room to pay Darcy Fort overs for his role as what is, in effect, a back-up ruckman on a two-year deal, just as an NFL team rewards their back-up quarterback in case of emergency.

So they are in an excellent spot, having paid Dunkley good, but not ridiculous, money and extended players like Eric Hipwood on six-year extension but relatively modest financial terms.

TOP 100 IN PLAYER RATINGS AND A 2024 BOLTER​

Lachie Neale (32nd), Oscar McInerney (49th), Harris Andrews (54th), Joe Daniher (73rd), Zac Bailey (83rd), Will Ashcroft (99th), Hugh McCluggage (100th). McCluggage started slowly then roared home in the Grand Final. Third in the best-and-fairest but can he take game to a new level?
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As others have said a good summary.
I think we need a good small forward added to our list.
Zorko 35 years, McCarthy 30 & Cameron 30 in July. Ralph did mention two but not McCarthy.

Maybe Lohmann can fill the small forward spot but i see his playing style a bit different. Time will tell.

If the money mentioned for Doedee is correct it is a big gamble by the club.
 
Section 5 said:
As others have said a good summary.
I think we need a good small forward added to our list.
Zorko 35 years, McCarthy 30 & Cameron 30 in July. Ralph did mention two but not McCarthy.

Maybe Lohmann can fill the small forward spot but i see his playing style a bit different. Time will tell.

If the money mentioned for Doedee is correct it is a big gamble by the club.
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Definitely need to replenish our forward stocks small and tall... Phoenix Gothard and Will Dawson come on down.
 
Might be in the minority here. In all honesty Lohmann has been unimpressive in the seniors for me, haven't even noticed glimpses of what could be a high level AFL footballer. Doesn't look particularly fast, agile or skilful by foot. On top of that he seemed to lack composure even when factoring in his inexperience.

It was fantastic that he stayed and i hope he succeeds for us, but I'm prepared to say from what I've seen he'll be a fringe 22 player over the next two years. Will get games, but will rarely make an impact.

We definitely need to draft a couple of small forwards in the next two years. Cameron and McCarthy have got two good years of high level football left in them imo.
 

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Dom PC said:
Might be in the minority here. In all honesty Lohmann has been unimpressive in the seniors for me, haven't even noticed glimpses of what could be a high level AFL footballer. Doesn't look particularly fast, agile or skilful by foot. On top of that he seemed to lack composure even when factoring in his inexperience.

It was fantastic that he stayed and i hope he succeeds for us, but I'm prepared to say from what I've seen he'll be a fringe 22 player over the next two years. Will get games, but will rarely make an impact.

We definitely need to draft a couple of small forwards in the next two years. Cameron and McCarthy have got two good years of high level football left in them imo.
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Lohmann needs to be given an extended run in the 1sts to show what he is capable of. Unfortunately he has a number of very good small forwards that are in front of him at the moment and because they play consistently good football he can’t get the opportunity he needs. He shows all the attributes of being an AFL player but lacks consistency when in the side and usually plays off the bench.
 
Section 5 said:
As others have said a good summary.
I think we need a good small forward added to our list.
Zorko 35 years, McCarthy 30 & Cameron 30 in July. Ralph did mention two but not McCarthy.

Maybe Lohmann can fill the small forward spot but i see his playing style a bit different. Time will tell.

If the money mentioned for Doedee is correct it is a big gamble by the club.
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Kai has almost always played as a small forward so far in his career. I see him as a direct replacement for Cameron or Linc should they not be available. He is well regarded within the club and will fit in when his opportunity comes up in my opinion.
 
Mighty Lions said:
Kai has almost always played as a small forward so far in his career. I see him as a direct replacement for Cameron or Linc should they not be available. He is well regarded within the club and will fit in when his opportunity comes up in my opinion.
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I agree that the club see Kai playing a small forward role initially anyhow.
I just think the club should be looking towards the various drafts for another small forward.
On paper we have a lot of small forwards but i see a few moving into more midfield time. Just my opinion of course.

Kai has been good in the 2 seasons at VFL level.
I like that he is an accurate goal kicker with 51.35 in his 29 VFL games. Can find the ball also averaging 15.5 disposals a game.
I was happy to see that he was not trying to fly for everything in the VFL as his career moved into the 2nd half of 2023.

He had limited AFL opportunity this year with 6 games starting round 14.
Starting sub on 4 occasions. Had two full games being the Swans a win and the Suns a loss.
Playing 6 games at AFL level in your 2nd year with a top 2 side is a solid start to an AFL career.
 
Berrygood said:
A very positive review. It shows the club really has its head screwed on properly. The salary cap especially seems to be controlled well. Great news there's no back ended deals likely to come back and bite us. Hopefully that allows us to keep players like Clug and Kiddy long term.

If players like Dev n Lohmann can be patient and see a good future for themselves, our team can and will evolve very nicely. I can definitely see Dev benefiting from a big preseason and a pretty much guaranteed best 22 start to the year. He's one player I reckon that will take a big step fwd. Able to relieve Dunkley as our defense minded mid, allowing the Ashcroft boys to take over from Neale as he ages out. Lohmann is only one long term injury to Linc or Charlie from getting a good run of games. Some improvement needed defensively but I believe that can be worked on successfully.

Draft a cpl of kpp's, 1 back n 1 fwd, with a thirst for the contest and a bit of mongrel, and I think we have Joe's retirement and defensive tall stocks covered nicely.

Continue to be a successful team and the ability to trade in quality players when needed remains strong. Ralph suggested our window could extend to 2030 if managed well. I think that's entirely possible. But it's not just the players we need to evolve, we need to have a coaching plan in place as well. Fages time will come to an end and a quality replacement will be needed to carry on. Pick a dud and all comes crashing down.
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Agree with all of this, but I think the key reason why we will contend for a while yet is the complete bonus of at least 2 and likely three top 12 father son picks. Would be nice if we could get the academy going and offering some more as well. Lets us be super aggressive in trades/FA if we want to knowing we can still draft highly rated players.
 
Dom PC said:
Might be in the minority here. In all honesty Lohmann has been unimpressive in the seniors for me, haven't even noticed glimpses of what could be a high level AFL footballer. Doesn't look particularly fast, agile or skilful by foot. On top of that he seemed to lack composure even when factoring in his inexperience.

It was fantastic that he stayed and i hope he succeeds for us, but I'm prepared to say from what I've seen he'll be a fringe 22 player over the next two years. Will get games, but will rarely make an impact.

We definitely need to draft a couple of small forwards in the next two years. Cameron and McCarthy have got two good years of high level football left in them imo.
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I’ve seen nothing that gives me firm confidence Kai will make it and am not as excited as others about his signing in a footy sense. However, not writing him off either. Just a bit ‘worth a shot, I suppose’ on what I’ve seen so far.

I still think Dev is also living off and idea of what we would love him to be as opposed to what evidence shows he is tracking to become. He is a real fan devalopment darling, which is cool, because he does play the right way and he’s a likeable cat, I think we all want that draft slider story to pay off too. On board for devaloping him and not looking to become a basher, but there’s been no firm evidence he will explode or turn into a really good mid IMO, seeing a Jarrod Berry ceiling fir him at absolute best, if I’m being honest.

Hoping to be proven wrong and his devalopment arc is far from over, also understand he’s not been played as a pure mid etc.
 
lioninthesand said:
Good summary. Only need I see with the draft is a couple of young talls coming through, bar Henry Smith there’s nothing really coming through there. This is something Dom said would be looked at this draft in an interview on SEN early this season.
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I have liked patches of what Lane has showed in the 2s. Young n inexperienced but potential I think. Aggressive also.
 
Mr Ripper said:
Best games Kalin’s played have been when he’s been stand-alone or, at least, primary ruckman. Pretty much all this year he was battling for ruck time against Fort and Smith as well as Fullarton and even Buzza. Think he could really flourish with more responsibility.
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From the outside looking in, he always appears to be starting every preseason from a long way back because he hasn’t stayed fit during the off season.
If he comes back in better Nick this year, I can see him having a pretty decent year.
His 2022 season, once he got fit and firing about half way through the year he looked very good and as though he had all the potential in the world.
His 2023 year was a bit disappointing.
Hopefully this year he comes back in pretty good shape and can spend the majority of the year in the ruck with Fort.
 
clubs rookie upgrades have been released, We have upgraded Carter Michael as most on here we’re predicting.

the full list
Nick Murray, Adelaide – 57 career games
Carter Michael, Brisbane – 1 career game
Matt Cottrell, Carlton – 54 career games
Ash Johnson, Collingwood – 24 career games
Oleg Markov, Collingwood – 74 career games
Kaine Baldwin, Essendon – 8 career games
Bailey Banfield, Fremantle – 75 career games
Josh Treacy, Fremantle – 36 career games
Hewago Oea, Gold Coast – 13 career games
Jai Newcombe, Hawthorn – 51 career games
Daniel Turner, Melbourne – 3 career games
Ben Miller, Richmond – 25 career games
Mason Wood, St Kilda – 117 career games
Liam Stocker, St Kilda – 51 career games
Robbie Fox, Sydney – 87 career games
Anthony Scott, Western Bulldogs – 57 career
 

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