List Mgmt. 2023 Trade Thread - Part II

[moirae42]

Yeah would have to hang onto Coff you would think.

Not easy on the back of a couple of dead seasons. He could easily be looking for a change.

 

[Max the great]

Dow to saints will get done pretty quickly- cal twomey

Dow to Saints is a done deal- Max the King (3 weeks ago)

 

[Gavinmitchell11]

Having Lockett might have helped us win it. Not sure that it was getting Smith and Jones that made us a premiership favourite side.

Aussie Jones’ goal in that GF is a thing of beauty. Carries the ball 120 metres then slots it from 50 on his non dominant foot. players can’t do that these days.
Loved Aussie.

 

[Max the great]

If Brandan Parfitt

3

Brandan Parfitt

Age

26

Ht

180cm

Wt

82kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.6

4star

K

8.4

3star

HB

8.2

5star

M

2.1

2star

T

4.8

5star

CL

1.9

4star

D

15.3

4star

K

8.5

3star

HB

6.8

4star

M

1.5

2star

T

7.8

5star

CL

3.2

4star

D

14.8

4star

K

6.4

3star

HB

8.4

5star

M

2.8

3star

T

4.0

5star

CL

0.6

3star

is available, rather him over Dow & Jordan. A 3rd rounder pick for him.

Parfitt is a very ordinary footballer.

 

[Max the great]

The Coffield situation definitely reminds me a lot of the Joel Smith trade back in the 90s.

If he leaves he will go on to have a very good career somewhere, we will get bugger all for him and watch in sadness

The club need to offer him a fair deal to entice him to stay. If we lose him for nothing and he fills his potential the club has yet again let us fans down.

 

[DarkSaint]

We should retain Coff and try him out as a Mid to see if he can make it. Have already enough players that can play that intercepting defender role.

If he wants a fresh start then fine, use that pick to get Henry.

 

[Baker_for_PM]

Coff played the last couple of game of the year for Sandy and was pretty decent, was good to see him out there and didn't look hampered. Hopefully we wants to stay because with a full preseason under his belt I can see him slotting back nicely.

A mate of mine thinks Jean-Luc Velissaris should be someone clubs could look at as he was huge for the Bullants in a team that got smash all year. Anyone know much about him?

 

[austinnn]

Out of interest, if we had to keep one would people rather Gresh or JB?

Rather keep Gresham. He will win finals for us one of these days.

 

[austinnn]

Not sure if they have the cap space after getting Grundy

Would you take a future first from Sydney for Doogie and steak knives? I probably would considering it's a midfielder-heavy draft next year. Don't see Sydney's 2024 draft position being worse than this one, potentially could be a lot better.

 

[austinnn]

Coff played the last couple of game of the year for Sandy and was pretty decent, was good to see him out there and didn't look hampered. Hopefully we wants to stay because with a full preseason under his belt I can see him slotting back nicely.

A mate of mine thinks Jean-Luc Velissaris should be someone clubs could look at as he was huge for the Bullants in a team that got smash all year. Anyone know much about him?

Want Jean-Luc Velissaris just for his name. Sounds like an interplanetary composer from the year 3589. Get him now SOS and future-fit the Saints marketing dept.

 

[austinnn]

Dow to Saints is a done deal- Max the King (3 weeks ago)

Dude, you... you don't even know your own user name?

I'm starting to think your name really isn't Max The Great

 

[austinnn]

Parfitt is a very ordinary footballer.

Best post I've seen here all year was the poster who suggested Parfitt was the sound of a shart

 

[Veer Right]

Geelongs midfield is worse then ours and Parfitt can barely break into said midfield.

 

[PoppedCorn]

Imagine keeping Jones and letting Coff go
OH BOY.

It’ll be real soon enough

The melts are coming

 

[bird_man]

I always remember this about Dow.
Tuesday, 8 September 2020
Carlton champion Greg Williams delivers some blunt advice for 2018 AFL Draft No.3 pick Paddy Dow who was dumped from the Blues' line-up to tackle Sydney, just two games after returning from a long-running knee injury.
"I thought just watching him, he's just not desperate enough, not going hard enough and I'm pretty blunt, but I think you get what you deserve." Williams, who has recently coached Dow on a personal level, told SEN.
"Teaguey's (coach David Teague) obviously made it hard for him to get a game which is a good thing because he got a lot of games early, just straight in because he was a low pick."

------ At 24 you would expect him to start to show his best now , a lot of these kids are just not ready for the pressure in there early years and they need to mature mentally and physical before stepping up.

I have not watched Dow play but if he is showing the desperation that Williams said he lacked he might of turned the corner.

But at best he is a late 2nd round pick or early 3rd. (38 to 45 best guess)

He definitely won't be a 2nd rounder

Late third or possibly even 4th IMO

You can't ask for a 2nd round pick for a 24 year old that can only get a game when there are injuries and then goes straight out when they are back.

 

[Saintbloke]

Maybe Lyon doesn't rate Coff? He wasn't at the club when Coff was recruited. I guess we'll know when the 2024 preseason comes around.

 

[#gosaintas]

Aussie Jones’ goal in that GF is a thing of beauty. Carries the ball 120 metres then slots it from 50 on his non dominant foot. players can’t do that these days.
Loved Aussie.

Possibly the best GF goal ever

 

[pebblesofsand]

Extremely unlikely. McStay/Mihocek or Riccardi/Hogan don’t really demand an extra key back even if Payne is gone (which is not assured)

How is that a real chance?

I expect Payne to play but he's been in a moon boot all week, so a little niggle for Darcy Gardiner then its "come on down" Darragh!!!!

 

[Sunshine Sainter]

It seems that many comments on here are looking for Saints action in both trading players and drafting in new talent. Understandably everyone is in favour of better draft picks and bringing in high talent players from other clubs.

The main sticking point from BF posters seems to be a fear of risk. Yes we want the club to improve our draft picks and recruiting of players, but are afraid of the risk. Seems many are in favour of the principle, but afraid of the reality, of trading Coffield, Clark, Howard, in case they turn out to have great careers elsewhere.

Without risk there is no reward. Yes mistakes may be made, but if we go for safe, go for the known, we will be here in the same spot not improving, or winning that elusive flag.

This is the time to take risks and jettison those who the club doesn't see will get us there, for those who they see will. I am up to moving virtually anyone on, if the risk / reward greatly favours us. It's time to be brave.

 

[gringo2011]

Coff played the last couple of game of the year for Sandy and was pretty decent, was good to see him out there and didn't look hampered. Hopefully we wants to stay because with a full preseason under his belt I can see him slotting back nicely.

A mate of mine thinks Jean-Luc Velissaris should be someone clubs could look at as he was huge for the Bullants in a team that got smash all year. Anyone know much about him?

Vallisaris has been the best player in the VFL for most of the year. He's not very big but his numbers are ridiculous. He's probably a small forward in the AFL maybe high HF. I thought there would be more footage of him on line but hard to find. He's playing further from goal this year and looks like he's gone up levels.

 

[austinnn]

It seems that many comments on here are looking for Saints action in both trading players and drafting in new talent. Understandably everyone is in favour of better draft picks and bringing in high talent players from other clubs.

The main sticking point from BF posters seems to be a fear of risk. Yes we want the club to improve our draft picks and recruiting of players, but are afraid of the risk. Seems many are in favour of the principle, but afraid of the reality, of trading Coffield, Clark, Howard, in case they turn out to have great careers elsewhere.

Without risk there is no reward. Yes mistakes may be made, but if we go for safe, go for the known, we will be here in the same spot not improving, or winning that elusive flag.

This is the time to take risks and jettison those who the club doesn't see will get us there, for those who they see will. I am up to moving virtually anyone on, if the risk / reward greatly favours us. It's time to be brave.

Been saying this for ages

 

[austinnn]

Jean Luc Velissaris
Shadeau Brain
Wylie Buzza

13

Wylie Buzza

Age

28

Ht

199cm

Wt

103kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

8.1

2star

K

4.4

2star

HB

3.7

3star

M

2.9

3star

T

3.2

5star

G

0.7

4star

No current season stats available

D

9.2

3star

K

5.0

2star

HB

4.2

4star

M

2.8

3star

T

3.6

5star

G

0.8

4star

Hugh McLuggage
Ozrazio Fantasia

Want them all

 

[ScrappyDo]

It seems that many comments on here are looking for Saints action in both trading players and drafting in new talent. Understandably everyone is in favour of better draft picks and bringing in high talent players from other clubs.

The main sticking point from BF posters seems to be a fear of risk. Yes we want the club to improve our draft picks and recruiting of players, but are afraid of the risk. Seems many are in favour of the principle, but afraid of the reality, of trading Coffield, Clark, Howard, in case they turn out to have great careers elsewhere.

Without risk there is no reward. Yes mistakes may be made, but if we go for safe, go for the known, we will be here in the same spot not improving, or winning that elusive flag.

This is the time to take risks and jettison those who the club doesn't see will get us there, for those who they see will. I am up to moving virtually anyone on, if the risk / reward greatly favours us. It's time to be brave.

I think you should take it easy on the poor old big footy posters.
Stkilda has inflicted a lot of trauma on its supporter base over the years and the ones in here are easily on the lower IQ scale from an already average bunch.
You can't expect them to want more hurt.

 

[Sully111]

It seems that many comments on here are looking for Saints action in both trading players and drafting in new talent. Understandably everyone is in favour of better draft picks and bringing in high talent players from other clubs.

The main sticking point from BF posters seems to be a fear of risk. Yes we want the club to improve our draft picks and recruiting of players, but are afraid of the risk. Seems many are in favour of the principle, but afraid of the reality, of trading Coffield, Clark, Howard, in case they turn out to have great careers elsewhere.

Without risk there is no reward. Yes mistakes may be made, but if we go for safe, go for the known, we will be here in the same spot not improving, or winning that elusive flag.

This is the time to take risks and jettison those who the club doesn't see will get us there, for those who they see will. I am up to moving virtually anyone on, if the risk / reward greatly favours us. It's time to be brave.

I'm fine with that

I'm not fine with throwing away good players for the sake of change.

Out of Gresh, Howard, Billings, Clark and Coffield, Coff is probably the last one I'd want to see go.

 

[Ricmel]

Maybe Lyon doesn't rate Coff? He wasn't at the club when Coff was recruited. I guess we'll know when the 2024 preseason comes around.

I may have missed it....but why all the speculation on Coff? Has anyone connected to the club actually expressed any doubts about wanting him to stay?

I mean, yeah he is out of contract and a couple of clubs have indicated interest but that is par for the course with uncontracted players right? It is still some way off "he is going".