2nds 2024 Adelaide Crows SANFL thread

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johnnypanther said:
Not disagreeing with your premise but i cant see how and where Port Power financially support the SANFL.
I would have said they bled the SANFL dry.
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Port are still paying back the SANFL for their license

Not sure if the SANFL team fee is still being subsidized by the SANFL or not
 

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GreyCrow said:
Im not sure how the set up is so apologies

Should it be like the old days where we had our players train with us and then send them back - but our top ups train with us 2 nights - we have a group of regulars that we can then send back to their original clubs

Sure its difficult for the clubs and the discarded players but its a win for cohesion and the supplement clubs who get a better trained player
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GC, are you suggesting you take top up players from SANFL clubs, use them at will and discard them at will and the SANFL clubs just have to suck up being totally stuffed around?
 
Scorpus said:
Port are still paying back the SANFL for their license

Not sure if the SANFL team fee is still being subsidized by the SANFL or not
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It’s not subsidised, as a foundation SANFL club they had a right to a cut of the sale of Footy Park, it was negotiated that they give up their share of that and not pay a fee for their reserves team.
I would think Port have saved a lot more after 10 years with a reserves team as compared to a dividend from Footy Park
 
chazwazza said:
GC, are you suggesting you take top up players from SANFL clubs, use them at will and discard them at will and the SANFL clubs just have to suck up being totally stuffed around?
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No. Country or amateur league players are semi-contracted to us at match rate and when not required return to their club

Its not the best but its a workaround
 
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SANFL Round 13 vs Central District: Five key takeaways

Adelaide recorded its fourth win of the SANFL season on Friday
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SANFL Round 13 vs Central District: Five key takeaways​

Adelaide recorded its fourth win of the SANFL season on Friday
Adelaide’s SANFL side has produced a second-straight win over a top-five opponen, as it defeated Central District by 36 points at Elizabeth Oval on Sunday afternoon.

Adelaide booted seven of the first eight goals to put themselves in a strong position early, and was able to maintain the scoreboard pressure throughout the game to win 11.9 (75) vs 5.9 (39).

Here are the five key takeaways from the match:

Jones impacts​

Midfielder Chayce Jones helped get Adelaide off to a strong start, getting his hands on plenty of the ball early.

Jones used his strong running ability to impact multiple contests, linking up with his teammates and providing support.

“He was one that rocked up with a great mindset, they put a bit of work into him,” SANFL Assistant Coach Matthew Wright said.

“I thought he was able to impact the game and pulled them apart at times, it was pleasing for him to have a good game.”

Jones finished with 18 disposals, six marks, six tackles, three clearances, four inside 50s and kicked one major.

Thilthorpe takes positive steps forward​

In his second game back, forward Riley Thilthorpe had strong performance, with his presence up forward noticeable.

Thilthorpe showed his ability to impact higher up the ground, attending more ruck contests and giving Adelaide a different look.

“The aim this week was to play normal game time, play him around the footy and a bit more in the ruck which he was able to do,” Wright said.

“He gave us a point of difference in the ruck, and along with Strachan formed a nice one-two punch.”

Thilthorpe finished with eight touches, three marks, four tackles, 12 hitouts and kicked two goals.

McHenry’s team-first game​

Forward Ned McHenry gave Adelaide plenty of energy up forward against the Bulldogs, with his pressure and leadership two qualities that stood out.

Playing as a half forward McHenry positioned himself well throughout the afternoon, able to get multiple opportunities in front of goal.

“For me, yes he gets the reward ball in hand and the possessions but he was also another leader out there today, setting up the other forwards ahead of the ball,” Wright said.

“His pressure has gone to another level which I know he has been working on, so for him to get some reward was nice.”

McHenry finished with 21 disposals, six marks, six inside 50s and booted two goals.

Strachan connects with midfielders​

Ruckman Kieran Strachan continued his strong form, dominating his opponent both in the hitouts and around the ground.

Strachan worked well with Adelaide’s midfielders, having good connection throughout the afternoon to result in Adelaide winning the clearance battle 35 to 31.

“He is connecting well with our mids, it's always tough on him because he can be so dominant that the opposition just look to read off of him,” Wright said.

“Also his aerial is back to a really good level where it has been previously, he is impacting in the air, at stoppage, he has multiple attributes.”

Strachan finished with 18 disposals, six marks, 33 hitouts and five clearances.

Bond shutdown job​

Defender Hugh Bond played an important shutdown role on Central forward Aiden Grace, keeping him to just five touches and no goals.

Bond worked well with his fellow defenders to limit the impact of Central’s forward entries, while rebounding well out of the backline.

“Bondy has been doing a huge job on the opposition's best forward for a long time this year and we know how dangerous Grace is,” Wright said.

“He continues to build his game and put their best player away and to his credit I thought he got the points today.”

Bond finished with 16 disposals, two clearances and seven rebound 50s.

Adelaide’s SANFL team’s next game will be against Norwood at Norwood Oval on Saturday with the first bounce at 1:10pm.

SCOREBOARD​

ADELAIDE: 4.3 7.6 11.6 11.9 (75)

CENTRAL: 1.1 2.2 4.5 5.9 (39)

GOALS:

Adelaide: Thilthorpe, McHenry, Gollant 2, Jones, H.Boyle, T.Murray, Welsh, O’Leary

Central: Grant, Lange, Gasper, Dudley, Larkins

BEST:
McHenry, Madgen, Bond, Gollant, Ryan, Strachan
 
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Round 13 SANFL Footy Fix - SANFL

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Round 13 SANFL Now Player of the Year Award​

Central v Adelaide – Eugene Warrior
3 – Ned McHenry (Adelaide)
2 – Hugh Bond (Adelaide)
1 – Harry Grant (Central)
Sturt v South – Jack Hannath
3 – Tom Lewis (Sturt)
2 – Sid Draper (South)
1 – Oscar Clavarino (South)
Glenelg v Eagles – Grant Coffee
3 – Riley Knight (Eagles)
2 – James Bell (Glenelg)
1 – Luke Reynolds (Glenelg)
West v Norwood – Phil Aspinall
3 – Matt Ling (Norwood)
2 – Izaak Twelftree (Norwood)
1 – Sam Frost (West)
North v Port – Tom Eglington
3 – Dylan Williams (Port)
2 – Dante Visentini (Port)
1 – Tom Clurey (Port)

Round 13 Shearman Medal - Coaches Votes​

Central v Adelaide
9 – Ned McHenry (Adelaide)
5 – Kieran Strachan (Adelaide)
4 – Jack Madgen (Adelaide)
3 – Lachlan Gollant (Adelaide)
3 – Kade Dittmar (Central)
2 – Oscar Ryan (Adelaide)
2 – Hugh Bond (Adelaide)
2 – Harry Grant (Central)
Sturt v South
8 – Oliver Grivell (Sturt)
6 – Tom Lewis (Sturt)
5 – Casey Voss (Sturt)
5 – Sid Draper (South)
3 – Kobe Mutch (South)
2 – Zac Becker (Sturt)
1 – Oscar Clavarino (South)
Glenelg v Eagles
10 – Riley Knight (Eagles)
8 – James Bell (Glenelg)
4 – Alex Martini (Glenelg)
3 – Luke Reynolds (Glenelg)
2 – James Rowe (Eagles)
2 – Jarrad Redden (Eagles)
1 – Matt Allen (Glenelg)
North v Port
10 – Dante Visentini (Port)
7 – Tom Clurey (Port)
6 – Dylan Williams (Port)
3 – Dyson Hilder (North)
2 – Kye Roberts (Port)
1 – Sam Ramsay (North)
1 – Hugh Jackson (Port)
West v Norwood
9 – Izaak Twelftree (Norwood)
8 – Matt Ling (Norwood)
7 – Harry Boyd (Norwood)
3 – Jackson Callow (Norwood)
3 – Baynen Lowe (Norwood)

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SANFL clubs at war with Power, Crows over top-up players amid discussion over National Reserves competition​

SANFL and AFL clubs in South Australia are locked in a struggle over where Port Adelaide and Adelaide can recruit top-up players for their reserve sides. SIMEON THOMAS-WILSON has the latest.



Allowing Adelaide and Port Adelaide to have better access to top-up players in the SANFL would improve the health of South Australian footy, Power chief executive Matthew Richardson said.
With a national reserves competition now on the backburner at AFL House, the Crows and Power will continue to field their reserves sides in the SANFL next year. But this is on the proviso the state league addresses key concerns around top-up players and fixture equality.
Currently the two AFL clubs have to look outside the SANFL for top-up players and are pushing for greater access to promising youngsters through the league’s rookie program.

This year Logan Evans, who continued his strong start to his AFL career against the Western Bulldogs on Saturday, trained with the Power and played for the Magpies in the SANFL as part of the program, before he was picked up in the mid-season draft.
Adelaide has father-son prospect Tyler Welsh at West Lakes as part of the program.
Richardson said the Power wanted the same playing-list rules as the 14 AFL clubs competing in the VFL.
“In order to ensure Port Adelaide and Adelaide are strong in the AFL competition, we need to be able to develop our players at least equally to the way the clubs in the VFL are,” he said on Grandstand SA.
“When you’re a young player, the players you’re playing with are more important than the players you’re playing against because that’s how you learn.
“At the moment there are 14 clubs in the VFL system that are able to put better quality players around their kids.”

SANFL clubs want the Crows and Power to instead focus on recruiting talent from interstate.
But Richardson said the two AFL clubs having better access to top-up players for their SANFL sides would only benefit footy in South Australia.
“An important element of the health of South Australian footy is having two strong, highly competitive AFL teams,” he said. “What that does is it drives the economy at Adelaide Oval because if they’re both performing, more people turn up and that money flows back into community support and the SANFL.
“We’re operating in a system where we feel like we’re starting to be disadvantaged against the other (AFL) clubs.
“If you step back and look back at what’s best for South Australian footy, at the moment there are some warning signs – there’s less talent coming out of South Australia.
“If we keep doing things how we’ve always done them … we’ll go backwards. We don’t want to be in that position, we want to play our role to strengthen South Australian footy.”
 
Mutineer said:
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Round 13 SANFL Footy Fix - SANFL

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Round 13 SANFL Now Player of the Year Award​

Central v Adelaide – Eugene Warrior
3 – Ned McHenry (Adelaide)
2 – Hugh Bond (Adelaide)
1 – Harry Grant (Central)
Sturt v South – Jack Hannath
3 – Tom Lewis (Sturt)
2 – Sid Draper (South)
1 – Oscar Clavarino (South)
Glenelg v Eagles – Grant Coffee
3 – Riley Knight (Eagles)
2 – James Bell (Glenelg)
1 – Luke Reynolds (Glenelg)
West v Norwood – Phil Aspinall
3 – Matt Ling (Norwood)
2 – Izaak Twelftree (Norwood)
1 – Sam Frost (West)
North v Port – Tom Eglington
3 – Dylan Williams (Port)
2 – Dante Visentini (Port)
1 – Tom Clurey (Port)

Round 13 Shearman Medal - Coaches Votes​

Central v Adelaide
9 – Ned McHenry (Adelaide)
5 – Kieran Strachan (Adelaide)
4 – Jack Madgen (Adelaide)
3 – Lachlan Gollant (Adelaide)
3 – Kade Dittmar (Central)
2 – Oscar Ryan (Adelaide)
2 – Hugh Bond (Adelaide)
2 – Harry Grant (Central)
Sturt v South
8 – Oliver Grivell (Sturt)
6 – Tom Lewis (Sturt)
5 – Casey Voss (Sturt)
5 – Sid Draper (South)
3 – Kobe Mutch (South)
2 – Zac Becker (Sturt)
1 – Oscar Clavarino (South)
Glenelg v Eagles
10 – Riley Knight (Eagles)
8 – James Bell (Glenelg)
4 – Alex Martini (Glenelg)
3 – Luke Reynolds (Glenelg)
2 – James Rowe (Eagles)
2 – Jarrad Redden (Eagles)
1 – Matt Allen (Glenelg)
North v Port
10 – Dante Visentini (Port)
7 – Tom Clurey (Port)
6 – Dylan Williams (Port)
3 – Dyson Hilder (North)
2 – Kye Roberts (Port)
1 – Sam Ramsay (North)
1 – Hugh Jackson (Port)
West v Norwood
9 – Izaak Twelftree (Norwood)
8 – Matt Ling (Norwood)
7 – Harry Boyd (Norwood)
3 – Jackson Callow (Norwood)
3 – Baynen Lowe (Norwood)

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Gollant? I must have been watching a different game.
 

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SANFL clubs at war with Power, Crows over top-up players amid discussion over National Reserves competition​

SANFL and AFL clubs in South Australia are locked in a struggle over where Port Adelaide and Adelaide can recruit top-up players for their reserve sides. SIMEON THOMAS-WILSON has the latest.



Allowing Adelaide and Port Adelaide to have better access to top-up players in the SANFL would improve the health of South Australian footy, Power chief executive Matthew Richardson said.
With a national reserves competition now on the backburner at AFL House, the Crows and Power will continue to field their reserves sides in the SANFL next year. But this is on the proviso the state league addresses key concerns around top-up players and fixture equality.
Currently the two AFL clubs have to look outside the SANFL for top-up players and are pushing for greater access to promising youngsters through the league’s rookie program.

This year Logan Evans, who continued his strong start to his AFL career against the Western Bulldogs on Saturday, trained with the Power and played for the Magpies in the SANFL as part of the program, before he was picked up in the mid-season draft.
Adelaide has father-son prospect Tyler Welsh at West Lakes as part of the program.
Richardson said the Power wanted the same playing-list rules as the 14 AFL clubs competing in the VFL.
“In order to ensure Port Adelaide and Adelaide are strong in the AFL competition, we need to be able to develop our players at least equally to the way the clubs in the VFL are,” he said on Grandstand SA.
“When you’re a young player, the players you’re playing with are more important than the players you’re playing against because that’s how you learn.
“At the moment there are 14 clubs in the VFL system that are able to put better quality players around their kids.”

SANFL clubs want the Crows and Power to instead focus on recruiting talent from interstate.
But Richardson said the two AFL clubs having better access to top-up players for their SANFL sides would only benefit footy in South Australia.
“An important element of the health of South Australian footy is having two strong, highly competitive AFL teams,” he said. “What that does is it drives the economy at Adelaide Oval because if they’re both performing, more people turn up and that money flows back into community support and the SANFL.
“We’re operating in a system where we feel like we’re starting to be disadvantaged against the other (AFL) clubs.
“If you step back and look back at what’s best for South Australian footy, at the moment there are some warning signs – there’s less talent coming out of South Australia.
“If we keep doing things how we’ve always done them … we’ll go backwards. We don’t want to be in that position, we want to play our role to strengthen South Australian footy.”
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If this (both the SANFL and AFL clubs) cases are as espoused ( I have my doubts) then why don't the SANFL go way less restricted on us having our ex-players playing for the reserves team? Why can't we have 5 or 10 ex players?? Wrighty, Mackay, Luke Brown, that dude who's now one of our coaches but had the blonde curly hair and was always injured, can't remember his name, etc, etc????

There's no way what's being espoused is what's really cared about.
 
Carmo said:
If this (both the SANFL and AFL clubs) cases are as espoused ( I have my doubts) then why don't the SANFL go way less restricted on us having our ex-players playing for the reserves team? Why can't we have 5 or 10 ex players?? Wrighty, Mackay, Luke Brown, that dude who's now one of our coaches but had the blonde curly hair and was always injured, can't remember his name, etc, etc????

There's no way what's being espoused is what's really cared about.
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Maybe having them back at their junior SANFL clubs is more meaningful for the club and player than running around as a top up player for an AFL reserves team.

I assume both reserves teams still have a “marquee” player they can nominate and pay that is outside of their restricted non AFL list.
SANFL clubs are heavily restricted by a salary cap and face pretty severe penalties if it’s breached….unless you’re Norwood…they also don’t have the ability to nominate a “marquee” player paid outside the salary cap.
Whereas both reserves sides breach the SANFL salary cap ten fold every week.

Whenever the restrictions on the reserves sides are mentioned the restrictions the SANFL clubs have are never mentioned. It’s such a myopic discussion in the media yet a modicum of inquisitiveness would present a fairer discussion…..can’t have that when it gets in the way of a Chris Davies tantrum can we.
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chazwazza said:
Maybe having them back at their junior SANFL clubs is more meaningful for the club and player than running around as a top up player for an AFL reserves team.

I assume both reserves teams still have a “marquee” player they can nominate and pay that is outside of their restricted non AFL list.
SANFL clubs are heavily restricted by a salary cap and face pretty severe penalties if it’s breached….unless you’re Norwood…they also don’t have the ability to nominate a “marquee” player paid outside the salary cap.
Whereas both reserves sides breach the SANFL salary cap ten fold every week.

Whenever the restrictions on the reserves sides are mentioned the restrictions the SANFL clubs have are never mentioned. It’s such a myopic discussion in the media yet a modicum of inquisitiveness would present a fairer discussion…..can’t have that when it gets in the way of a Chris Davies tantrum can we.
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It's also never mentioned that a majority of the real 8 club's supporters don't want the 2 AFL Reserves teams in the SANFL.
Also the salary of 4 or 5 of the AFL players in Sundays team added together would pay our salary cap.
It's typical Port Adelaide everything for them and nothing for anyone else.

I'm surprised they don't want to take the 1st and 2nd players from each club's best and fairest.
 
BlackWing said:
It's also never mentioned that a majority of the real 8 club's supporters don't want the 2 AFL Reserves teams in the SANFL.
Also the salary of 4 or 5 of the AFL players in Sundays team added together would pay our salary cap.
It's typical Port Adelaide everything for them and nothing for anyone else.

I'm surprised they don't want to take the 1st and 2nd players from each club's best and fairest.
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Thilthorpe’s salary would be more than that of an SANFL club alone.
 
What if the crows & port could only sign SANFL players that had played a set amount of senior games the year before? So if someone was playing SANFL reserves and played 4 senior games then AFL clubs can sign him to the SANFL team? Then if he doesn't play for the Crows SANFL team then he can play for the original SANFL clubs reserves team?

Alternatively what if a loan system was setup? Crows / Port pay money to a SANFL club to have one of their players for the year?

How much would it cost for the crows & port to have a reserves side? Allowing development of younger players to come into the seniors (SANFL) to assist the club?

I am not so interested in our SANFL team winning grand finals and if the rules were tweaked enough for us I'd be happy for us to sit out finals? I'm more interested in having quality players around our kids to help them develop into AFL players.
 
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