2024 Draft Thread.

[Mat Mann]

Draft Period, November 20–21

• Round 1 of the National Draft: Wednesday, November 20
• Round 2–end of the National Draft: Thursday, November 21
• Rookie Promotions: Thursday, November 21, after the National Draft
• Delisted Free Agency Period (3): Thursday, November 21, after the National Draft
• List Lodgement 3*: Friday, November 22, 10am (optional; required for those participating in the PSD)
• Pre-Season Draft: Friday, November 22, 3pm
• Rookie Draft: Friday, November 22, 3.20pm

 

[L_W_P]

If Garcia went at pick 50 last year, you would think there might be another gold nugget lurking late in the order in this draft. Would love us to have a couple of picks before 50. Can we get another pick somehow? Seems to be lots of players we would like.

Would probably cost us a F2nd to get a pick form the Lions or Bombers.

Unless there's someone we absolutely love I rekon we take our pick, get our NGA kids and Peckett and see what's left in the rookie draft.

If everyone is bailing on next year's draft because of all the NGA kids then I rekon we could load up TBH.

Target teams that want to sell picks into the 2026 and 2027 drafts and we could end up with 3x 1st rounders to play with.

 

[Armoooo]

Not that it matters, but why do we exclude Hunter Clark from this narrative? Every pre-draft profile refers to him as a midfielder.

Hunter Clark Draft Profile

DRAFT ANALYSIS: "Hunter Clark is one of the top inside midfield prospects and shows clean hands and is composed around the stoppages"

central.rookieme.com

2017 NAB AFL Draft Pick No. 7: Hunter Clark

Dandenong Stingrays midfielder Hunter Clark is now a Saint after he was selected with pick No. 7 in Friday night’s NAB AFL Draft in Sydney.

www.saints.com.au

2017 AFL Draft prospects: Hunter Clark

Find out everything you need to know about this year's draft prospects before they get drafted.

www.zerohanger.com

AFL draft 2017: Hunter Clark on his biggest strengths and why he sees his future as an inside midfielder

The unique combo that has Hunter in top 10 sights

www.foxsports.com.au

He played in the backline more from memory. Even at the Stingrays played a heap of footy off the back flank.

 

[Verdun66]

I am excited about our two choices taken last night. Trav will probably be bust-proof. Too tough and versatile to not succeed. Not to mention talented. I still reckon there are busts in the choices taken ahead of us. Don’t want to predict who but we might be grateful not to have taken one or two of them.

And Tauru could truly be anything. I look longingly at the Curnows and Sicilys of the comp and wish we had someone like them. Reckon we might have that now. I mentioned last night that this kid could be a ‘franchise’ player. So marketable.

The fact that they are so young in their year and so highly rated should mean they have even greater potential. Poo was the same. When I was doing cricket coaching courses I saw research about the spread of players born in each quartile. The weighting towards the earlier born in squads was quite stark. The last quartile was something less than 10%.

The development of these two is vital. Someone mentioned before that Tauru had a bit of a paunch. Puppy fat. How good is he going to be in a few years with the development and maturing? Going to be a very enjoyable watch.

 

[Armoooo]

I don't think we're going to be able to trade into the draft, maybe bring pick 31 (?) forward.

Here's a question, if Essendon offered us their future first for 31 and our future 2nd, would we consider it?

 

[L_W_P]

I don't think we're going to be able to trade into the draft, maybe bring pick 31 (?) forward.

Here's a question, if Essendon offered us their future first for 31 and our future 2nd, would we consider it?

You'd have to consider it.

Are Essendon going to be any better next year than they were this year?

A top 5-8 pick for two picks in the 30's is a solid win.

 

[stavro#4]

Interesting names linked

 

[stavro#4]

But the Saints also had their eyes on busy left-footed small forward Joe Berry, and were prepared to dangle their future first-round pick for him with clubs in the teens.

But there were no takers.

Port Adelaide snaffled up the quick and clean goal kicker at pick 15, and that is when the Saints went quiet.

 

[stavro#4]

Explains why the eagles took so long and swapped with port.

 

[Armoooo]

But the Saints also had their eyes on busy left-footed small forward Joe Berry, and were prepared to dangle their future first-round pick for him with clubs in the teens.

But there were no takers.

Port Adelaide snaffled up the quick and clean goal kicker at pick 15, and that is when the Saints went quiet.

Lol so even with a 3rd first rounder we were going to ignore the mids

 

[mad-saint-guy]

You forgot the best developing mid we have:


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B grade mid. Best half back in the comp

 

[Armoooo]

Explains why the eagles took so long and swapped with port.

Well played by Eagles, they weren't going to pass up on Allan, but they got Port scared enough to give up pick 45 for nothing essentially.

The fact that they managed to get Allan makes their trade with Carlton look a lot better by comparison.

They probably would have taken Allan with pick 7 or 8, so downgrading pick 3 to snag Baker is a lot better value than it initially appeared.

 

[St Kilda Death]

He played in the backline more from memory. Even at the Stingrays played a heap of footy off the back flank.

And Travaglia played midfield for Bendigo for the last half the year.
Versatility is good.

 

[mad-saint-guy]

The difference in potential and ability between Dodson and Boyd/Blakiston is night and day. Dodson is a great tap ruckman who can also get around the ground like a midfielder and racks up big stat numbers. He would be the perfect modern day ruckman, the other two are just gap fillers and will be gone in a year or two. Dodson has a huge future....if available we would be stupid not to take him IMO.

I understand you like other players but I dont think we can go past a high quality ruckman they dont come around that often.

I think our off season shows that the mentally for 2025 is "let's put the young guys to the test to see who sinks and who swims". I don't think there any expectation of finishing in the top 6. So I could see us going for Dodson if he's still there and throwing Heath/Keeler in the deep end if Marshall is injured.

Same goes with the midfield. Makrae covers the loss of Crouch/Ross while Dow and Clark get to make their case for an extension. Unless we take a Tomlinson/Clurey type then Battle's spot is up for grabs between Caminiti/Shooey/Viking as well

 

[L_W_P]

Lol so even with a 3rd first rounder we were going to ignore the mids

Berry could end up a Brent Daniels type TBH.

Wonder if this means we are looking for a similar player tonight?

Any decent small forward type players left on the board?

 

[Hayes4PM]

Interesting names linked

I think I'd prefer Boxshall out of those discussed. I just don't get the point when there's talent left on the board we would consider a ruckman, the amount of decent rucks who have to play 2nd fiddle means you can usually grab one if that's the missing piece on your list in an off season.

Gimme Shanahan or one of the mids, can always potentially rookie select a ruckman.

 

[Verdun66]

I think that's A grade copium tbh.

There's no evidence to support the notion at all.

Either the formula spat out band 1 comp or it didn't, if he was under band 1, I don't think the AFL fudged the numbers to give us pick 8, conversely if he was over, I don't think they would have fudged the numbers to avoid giving us pick 6.

Literally something fans are telling themselves to feel better about how things have turned out.

I said a few days ago that you couldn’t trust the AFL. I have no doubt they do things to suit themselves. I don’t know either way whether we would have got the higher compensation pick or not. But nothing would surprise me. And I’m not saying it to make myself feel better about the outcome of the draft.

 

[Leap of Faith]

Haven’t addressed?
We’ve added a triple All Australian midfielder and a promising young mid in Carroll with picks still to come.

That’s true. I’m just really disappointed that we didn’t make it happen to get a first round mid in such an even draft. Nobody really knows who will turn into an elite or A grade player. It could be any kid - like Hugo. Just have to accept it for what it is and move on with supporting who we’ve got.

 

[Tommy Wigs]

Ah, I get it now. The points system is broken again. Apparently it was all dandy for a few weeks for some random period between last night and one of the club’s BnF.

I also noted the little comment alluding to the fact that we would want to match a Peckett bid just because Bass said something. Well, aren’t we surrounded by the most vindictive and stupidest set of media and oppo supporters. Absolute smoothed brain oxygen thieves.

 

[Tommy Wigs]

Misson said the other day that 15 players (young players I think) will be doing leadership training with the All Blacks.
I assume this: allblacksperformancelabs
They're certainly looking for improvement at the club. The sort of stuff you can only do with decent finances.

Love it. Big part of deciding our future.

 

[thekizzler]

Haven’t addressed?
We’ve added a triple All Australian midfielder and a promising young mid in Carroll with picks still to come.

I also think no consideration is going into the possibility Hugo Garcia could be valuable addition to the midfield rotation.

I'm certainly not suggesting he is a guaranteed success but he showed enough last season to feel he is a good chance to be a good player.

There is also the hope that Windhager goes up a gear, Clark stays fit and lifts his output slightly (which would be magnificent) and then the unknown of Max Hall.

I'm not stating these guys are going to make a premiership midfield next season, but there is more midfield building blocks than people are considering.

Maybe this is why the club didn't overpay to get up the draft order? I don't know.

But it just seems like melting and throwing out rubbish chat is the go instead of consideration.

 

[Tommy Wigs]

I still haven't seen anyone shit canning TT. Or the Viking. Some posters are really pissed that even with two top ten picks we still haven't addressed the most glaring weakness in our side. It's questioning the club and the recruiters, not the kids who have been selected.

I haven’t read every post because I’d be miserable and in a corner, but some class act called TT an absolute stinker of a player. There’s been a lot of paying out tbf.

Someone on Twitter (I imagine it’s someone here) posted a highlights package of TT playing mid this year. Just the 27, goal, and 11 tackles. Just hold your horses and turn positive until Round 1. And then return to despair.

 

[Saintos The ITK]

I take it the Sandy deal isn’t happening. I don’t really see how it could tbh without just gifting someone undeserving a spot.
We should be filling spots with the intention of setting them up for success.

 

[Tommy Wigs]

I'm being a little tongue in cheek here but doesn't that kind argue against the idea of drafting mids at all cost?

Outside of Sheezel have any of those guys really been standout players?

McKercher gets a heap of the ball but he's playing half back and taking kickouts. Travaglia can do that.
Wardlaw has been solid. He could get there.
Powell is a forward flanker now.
Phillips can't get a game.
Duursma is a forward.

So 6 shots for 1 gun, a solid mid, a stat padder and 3 'meh' options.

Plenty of time for them to develop obviously but I wouldn't be raving about loading up on top picks for mids and using North as the standard...

Extraordinarily under selling McKercher (a baby who is about as locked in to be a gun as you can get)and Wardlaw.

 

[St Kilda Death]

Wow did yas see that article on Draper?
Sounds like he was set to slide to us as crows were into Langford as reported,
But hes a childhood crows fan rang the coach and begged to drafted to them.
So much for reports he didn’t want to play there because they dropped Rachele

 

[Tommy Wigs]

I am excited about our two choices taken last night. Trav will probably be bust-proof. Too tough and versatile to not succeed. Not to mention talented. I still reckon there are busts in the choices taken ahead of us. Don’t want to predict who but we might be grateful not to have taken one or two of them.

And Tauru could truly be anything. I look longingly at the Curnows and Sicilys of the comp and wish we had someone like them. Reckon we might have that now. I mentioned last night that this kid could be a ‘franchise’ player. So marketable.

The fact that they are so young in their year and so highly rated should mean they have even greater potential. Poo was the same. When I was doing cricket coaching courses I saw research about the spread of players born in each quartile. The weighting towards the earlier born in squads was quite stark. The last quartile was something less than 10%.

The development of these two is vital. Someone mentioned before that Tauru had a bit of a paunch. Puppy fat. How good is he going to be in a few years with the development and maturing? Going to be a very enjoyable watch.

Great post and interesting stat. Tauru just a baby and what a huge improvement year on year.