List Mgmt. 2024 List Mismanagement and Trading Part 2

[Cromulant]

we are back where we started
at 30 hes not getting better.

That's not what you said, you said fitter.

 

[crow2crow]

That's not what you said, you said fitter.

I mean better fitness!! ffs seriously you have no idea

 

[Cromulant]

I mean better fitness!! ffs seriously you have no idea

Ironic coming from you.

 

[crow2crow]

Ironic coming from you.

Buddy I watch you argue with virtually everyone on this board. You never agree with anyone, back anyone else. You are the perennial mr criticism always looking to pile on... picking on tiniest things. Grow up Tony.

 

[Thrillthorpe7]

we are back where we started
at 30 hes not getting better.

That's just not factually true though, science does not back it up. Whether Strachan is motivated enough to get fitter is another story, but unless he has some sort of medical limitation, there is no reason he can't be improving his cardio base.

 

[Cromulant]

Buddy I watch you argue with virtually everyone on this board. You never agree with anyone, back anyone else. You are the perennial mr criticism always looking to pile on... picking on tiniest things. Grow up Tony.

Wrong again....

Keep at it, you'll get one right one day champ

 

[Cromulant]

That's just not factually true though, science does not back it up. Whether Strachan is motivated enough to get fitter is another story, but unless he has some sort of medical limitation, there is no reason he can't be improving his cardio base.

It does become more difficult but it's certainly not impossible. It was a bit disappointing as I thought his first half against Richmond in particular wasn't too bad.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

No doubt
I cant see berry in our top 30.

He's just in the top 30 imo.

1 Rankine
2 Dawson
3 Thilthorpe
4 Soligo
5 Fogarty
6 Worrell
7 Keays
8 N Murray
9 Crouch
10 Michaelanny
11 Hinge
12 Cumming
13 Walker
14 Rachele
15 Neal-Bullen
16 Sholl
17 O'Brien
18 Curtin
19 Peatling
20 Pedlar
21 Laird
22 Keane
23 Taylor
24 Nankervis
25 Jones
26 Butts
27 Bond
28 Milera
29 Berry

But may not be by the end of the year as we have a few players who are likely to go past him.

Pick 4 - gun midfielder
Edwards
Ryan

Would we have traded Berry if we knew we had the 3 players traded in.

 

[Mutineer]

He's just in the top 30 imo.

1 Rankine
2 Dawson
3 Thilthorpe
4 Soligo
5 Fogarty
6 Worrell
7 Keays
8 N Murray
9 Crouch
10 Michaelanny
11 Hinge
12 Cumming
13 Walker
14 Rachele
15 Neal-Bullen
16 Sholl
17 O'Brien
18 Curtin
19 Peatling
20 Pedlar
21 Laird
22 Keane
23 Taylor
24 Nankervis
25 Jones
26 Butts
27 Bond
28 Milera
29 Berry

But may not be by the end of the year as we have a few players who are likely to go past him.

Pick 4 - gun midfielder
Edwards
Ryan

Would we have traded Berry if we knew we had the 3 players traded in.

I'm glad you put the "ïmo" in.

He has to at least be ahead of Pedlar, Jones and Milera at this point and probably Bond also..

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

I'm glad you put the "ïmo" in.

He has to at least be ahead of Pedlar, Jones and Milera at this point and probably Bond also..

Yes this is my opinion for next season.

3 of these players have real weapons.

Bond offers us a lockdown option if we want to free up Michaelanny.

Berry is Crouch backup.

This board is largely about opinions, including yours.

Ps. Feel free to give your top 30.

 

[cleanhands]

He's just in the top 30 imo.

1 Rankine
2 Dawson
3 Thilthorpe
4 Soligo
5 Fogarty
6 Worrell
7 Keays
8 N Murray
9 Crouch
10 Michaelanny
11 Hinge
12 Cumming
13 Walker
14 Rachele
15 Neal-Bullen
16 Sholl
17 O'Brien
18 Curtin
19 Peatling
20 Pedlar
21 Laird
22 Keane
23 Taylor
24 Nankervis
25 Jones
26 Butts
27 Bond
28 Milera
29 Berry

But may not be by the end of the year as we have a few players who are likely to go past him.

Pick 4 - gun midfielder
Edwards
Ryan

Would we have traded Berry if we knew we had the 3 players traded in.

Nicks would have already done his

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Nicks would have already done his

Murphy & Laird would be ranked much higher...

 

[cleanhands]

Murphy & Laird would be ranked much higher...

You betcha

 

[jackster83]

That's just not factually true though, science does not back it up. Whether Strachan is motivated enough to get fitter is another story, but unless he has some sort of medical limitation, there is no reason he can't be improving his cardio base.

He's happy getting paid to do **** all. Like so many other depth 200cm players around the league.

Was a poor decision to recontract him in 2023. We knew he wasn't up to it by then.

 

[GreyCrow]

I'm glad you put the "ïmo" in.

He has to at least be ahead of Pedlar, Jones and Milera at this point and probably Bond also..

I agree with the 1st three but I have Bond in my 22 for the 1st game

 

[ams4crows]

Who are we delisting if we do that ??

I'm saying we'll be upset we didn't trade Berry in the end because it means we lack flexibility on the draft

 

[1970crow]

How many games in the main side will Berry play?

I was also happy for him to move on - both for return on value and list management

Potentially they see Crouch not getting another contract? Otherwise he seems excess to needs and should have got some return if traded out.

 

[WeeBlake]

I'm glad you put the "ïmo" in.

He has to at least be ahead of Pedlar, Jones and Milera at this point and probably Bond also..

After about 15 it’s up for grabs I think, and it probably should be, even in good teams. Form, injuries, development, depth in particular positions, all play a bigger part than with the top 15 or so.

FWIW I’d have Peatling higher, and Obrien too (simply because of a lack of ruck depth)

 

[Mostyn]

We'll be spitting chips for not trading Berry when Draper is gone by pick 4 and Richmond offer 6 and 10 to slide up to 4 to get Smith.

I genuinely feel there weren't any takers for Berry.

 

[1990crow]

I genuinely feel there weren't any takers for Berry.

I think North Melbourne should have gone Berry over Parker. Parker will probably play one season then need replacing.

Berry could give them 2 or 3 years whilst their youth catches up.

 

[Eddie Murphy]

I genuinely feel there weren't any takers for Berry.

If this were the case we’d have no reason to not sign him for only the one year for list flexibility.

 

[spenze]

I think North Melbourne should have gone Berry over Parker. Parker will probably play one season then need replacing.

Berry could give them 2 or 3 years whilst their youth catches up.

Maybe

I see Parkers value is someone experienced from winning culture, Berry doesn't have that background. Parker will play less in the second year but his experience will be invaluable to a team that is 6 years into a rebuild and still on the bottom. The time really is now for the Kangas to start making strides

 

[1970crow]

I genuinely feel there weren't any takers for Berry.

So we signed him for 2 years, this unwanted player?

 

[Cromulant]

I genuinely feel there weren't any takers for Berry.

Collingwood tabled an offer, and I'd think a few clubs lower down would've had a go.

Ultimately not hard enough to get him to leave

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

I genuinely feel there weren't any takers for Berry.

Pies & Roos both showed interest.

Peatling wasn't on our radar at the time... because if he was, along with landing ANB & Cumming, I reckon we would have allowed him to explore other options.

As it is he will be handy depth.

We now have around 30 decent players, which should make a huge difference compared to this season gone, where we traded out depth & lost Sloane early.