List Mgmt. 2024 List Mismanagement and Trading Part 2

[Carmo]

I can't tell whether you're being sarcastic.

100% serious post

 

[Samcro24]

5 new players coming into the club this trade / draft period …..a rebuild that’s already completed, and a list that’s the best in the Clubs history

If you doubt that last statement …. identify the players who will develop into A grade

The Tassie comment doesn’t impact us, as we won’t be rebuilding …. same can’t be said for COLL & MELB …. and if RICH don’t nail this draft or fail to develop this years crop… they’re in trouble too

 

[cleanhands]

Nothing like premature list evaluation

Pulled that one from a certain part of one’s anatomy

 

[Redline]

The media also laughed at Hardwick in 2015, when he said the same about his list

Ladder position is not a reflection of list quality ….. there are many other factors involved; experience, injuries ect

But i’d match this list, after adding #4 as being our best depth ….. sure we’ve had absolute superstars, but not the depth of A graders we have now

Some people though can’t extrapolate talent to future scenarios

Richmond's premierships were built on having Dusty. They had a number of really good players but without him they don't win a flag.

I think we have the top end talent but not that absolute elite player. Hopefully that's pick 4 this year.

 

[Big Dub]

Richmond's premierships were built on having Dusty. They had a number of really good players but without him they don't win a flag.

I think we have the top end talent but not that absolute elite player. Hopefully that's pick 4 this year.

I think you need a number of elite players, and a depth of really good and good players.

Dawson, Rankine, Thilthorpe, pick 4 and probably two of Soligo, Max, Curtin or Rachele could be elite.

Fog, Hinge, Worrell, Keane/ Murray, Nank could be really good. Is it enough? Who knows. But it's a start. It's something.

 

[spenze]

I think you need a number of elite players, and a depth of really good and good players.

Dawson, Rankine, Thilthorpe, pick 4 and probably two of Soligo, Max, Curtin or Rachele could be elite.

Fog, Hinge, Worrell, Keane/ Murray, Nank could be really good. Is it enough? Who knows. But it's a start. It's something.

Soligo will never be elite.

He will be a good player no doubt but he doesn't have the burst of speed or agility to get to elite

 

[WetCrow1991]

B graders......

Are the A graders?

 

[AFC979810]

Wll someone seems to agree with Wayno..

Can the Adelaide Crows go from bottom four to top four in 2025?

Andy Maher reckons the Crows could be up for a chance at the flag next year.

www.sen.com.au

I missed the part where Andy Maher says its the best list we have ever assembled.

 

[adelaidecrows]

I missed the part where Andy Maher says its the best list we have ever assembled.

Its not the best. Our premiership squads have almost all of our all time best players and that squad also includes several of the best all time players. Riccuito, Modra, Jarman, McLeod, Smart.

This squad is a long way from being on the same page.

 

[AFC979810]

Adding 3 B graders makes all the difference.

It does make a massive difference when there were 8 games in 2024 that were decided by 8 points or less and we only won 2 of em.

Any way you want to grade ANB, Peatling and Cumming - having them in our side over spuds that played significant games in 2024 like Cook, Berry, Jones, McHenry, Jones, Murphy, Hamill, does make a massive difference.

*not saying that cook and Jones are certified spuds - but their 2024 was certainly potato like.

 

[1970crow]

It does make a massive difference when there were 8 games in 2024 that were decided by 8 points or less and we only won 2 of em.

Any way you want to grade ANB, Peatling and Cumming - having them in our side over spuds that played significant games in 2024 like Cook, Berry, Jones, McHenry, Jones, Murphy, Hamill, does make a massive difference.

*not saying that cook and Jones are certified spuds - but their 2024 was certainly potato like.

I think you’re missing the context to ny post. GK reminded Waynus that he blamed a poor list for Nicks’ performance this year but he’s now saying that it’s the best list we’ve ever assembled. The 3 b graders are obviously the bridge between this season’s poor list and our best list ever.

I agree the 3 players will definitely make a difference but their addition does not make this list better than every other list we’ve had.

 

[Captain Furious]

Richmond's premierships were built on having Dusty. They had a number of really good players but without him they don't win a flag.

I think we have the top end talent but not that absolute elite player. Hopefully that's pick 4 this year.

Not sure about that, Dusty was the cream for sure but none of those grand finals were that close where it would be a single player that got them over the line. Even all those finals they won, other than the 6 point win over Port, they were pretty comfortable.

 

[Cromulant]

Not sure about that, Dusty was the cream for sure but none of those grand finals were that close where it would be a single player that got them over the line. Even all those finals they won, other than the 6 point win over Port, they were pretty comfortable.

They don't win the 2020 GF without him.

The rest though, absolutely right. Wasn't even BOG in 17 and 19 IMO

 

[WaynesWorld19]

I think you’re missing the context to ny post. GK reminded Waynus that he blamed a poor list for Nicks’ performance this year but he’s now saying that it’s the best list we’ve ever assembled. The 3 b graders are obviously the bridge between this season’s poor list and our best list ever.

I agree the 3 players will definitely make a difference but their addition does not make this list better than every other list we’ve had.

Wrong !

Interesting when people need to misrepresent historical posts to make a point .....interesting that you don't bring up these so-called statements I'm supposed to have made

What I said was ...our injuries exposed a list that was too young and inexperienced .....playing 4 first year rookies in a side at one time is never a good recipe to win games
Also our injuries were to key personnel ....structural personnel ....Thilthorpe, Murray, Rankine, Worrell, Milera

That position on 2024 performances, in no way contradicts my recent comment about list quality ....another year of maturing, extra games in players, and the addition of the 3 trade-in's PLUS pick #4 ....makes my position more than defendable

 

[Cromulant]

Milera is not a key structural player

 

[George Kramer]

Wrong !

Interesting when people need to misrepresent historical posts to make a point .....interesting that you don't bring up these so-called statements I'm supposed to have made

What I said was ...our injuries exposed a list that was too young and inexperienced .....playing 4 first year rookies in a side at one time is never a good recipe to win games
Also our injuries were to key personnel ....structural personnel ....Thilthorpe, Murray, Rankine, Worrell, Milera

That position on 2024 performances, in no way contradicts my recent comment about list quality ....another year of maturing, extra games in players, and the addition of the 3 trade-in's PLUS pick #4 ....makes my position more than defendable

How can we misrepresent this statement:

“No-one can predict when a Coach is going to go rogue bonkers”

 

[George Kramer]

Milera is not a key structural player

I’m still waiting for him to explain how Milera, Hinge, Cumming, Laird are all going to fit into our defence.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Milera is not a key structural player

In today's game, that HB distributor is most definitely a structural player

Both COLL and GC have spent huge draft capital to bring that player role into their sides over the trade period

 

[WaynesWorld19]

How can we misrepresent this statement:

“No-one can predict when a Coach is going to go rogue bonkers”

Pittman was called "pathetic Pittman" by a certain Coach ....who then went on to be a Premiership Player

You confuse a gameday assessment with a season or career assessment

 

[George Kramer]

In today's game, that HB distributor is most definitely a structural player

Both COLL and GC have spent huge draft capital to bring that player role into their sides over the trade period

Milera played early.

How are you fitting Cumming, Hinge, Milera and Laird in defence?

 

[George Kramer]

Pittman was called "pathetic Pittman" by a certain Coach ....who then went on to be a Premiership Player

You confuse a gameday assessment with a season or career assessment

lol, do you want me to follow up the post where I ask you if you’re now having doubts on Nicks and you reply with “Yes”

As for Nicks career assessment, what’s your thoughts on Davis’s new responsibilities? Club must have heaps of faith in Nicks, what’s he actually responsible for now?

 

[Big Dub]

Soligo will never be elite.

He will be a good player no doubt but he doesn't have the burst of speed or agility to get to elite

He's top 4 for disposals, clearances and tackles for players his age.

Yeah, there's a way to go. But that's not a bad place to start.

 

[BRL121]

Soligo will never be elite.

He will be a good player no doubt but he doesn't have the burst of speed or agility to get to elite

When he gets rid of the OP, I think you will see an improvement in that area.

 

[Shifty Crow]

As I have said many times over the past month, there is no good reason for us to pick swap.

Pick 4 is perfectly placed to get one of the gun midfielders. Sliding our pick would be silly as we then likely miss out on one of the leading midfielders which we desperately need.

Further, we do not need another pick this draft as we have no list space.

This is not the time to bank future picks to give up the opportunity for a gun midfielder.

agree

I wouldn’t trust Hamish to pick earlier - based on his track record he will get it wrong

Pick 4 - basically reduces margin of error on Hamish, by the time it gets to our pick the decision on who to take should be a no-brainer


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[1990crow]

agree

I wouldn’t trust Hamish to pick earlier - based on his track record he will get it wrong

Pick 4 - basically reduces margin of error on Hamish, by the time it gets to our pick the decision on who to take should be a no-brainer


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