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AFLW 2024 - Round 8 - Chat, game threads, injury lists, team lineups and more.
Nice post zee. Because you think the top end isn't as good as the last couple of drafts, would you have preferred to hold onto 12 and 14?Sat and watched some full games to put the highlights in perspective and came away with a wildly different set of rankings.
Honestly, don't think anyone in this draft comes near Harley Reid, McKercher, Sheezel etc. Some big ball winners like Jagga but I don't see any amazing kicks or damaging players at the top end except Murphy Reid.
Jagga Smith and Murphy Reid are my faves for this draft, though I'd happy with Langford, Lalor and Draper too. O'Sullivan for me just hasn't produced enough this year and reminds me of the talk around SPS in his u18 year after an amazing u17 year.
Will be shocked if someone bids on Ben Campo before 40 and I don't think we'd select either of the twins if they had a different surname. Ben is a good talent though, good build and applies himself well and gets where the ball is. Not damaging at all though. Lucas I'll withhold comment on.
Armstrong and Kako are guns, Essendon will be spewing they aren't in a position to land both. Kako is extremely clean and has great skills and marks well for his height.
I simply didn't see Lalor get it enough or hit enough good kicks to be in the discussion with Dusty or De Goey. Draper has good traits but didn't watch him take a game by the scruff of the neck like Murphy Reid did. Reid obviously looks to have modelled his game on Daicos. Like a poor man's version of Nick, which is still worthy of a pick 3
Game is changing I think where big bodied mids is not where the game is going. We’ve got enough of those at present. What we lack are mids with break away speed, quick thinking, quick hands like Daicos and Ashcroft who are not big bodied but can move and link play through the centre corridor.So from my observation the main question mark around Jagga is whether he will fill out and if he has the body frame to grow into a size to match it with AFL level mids.
For comparison:Game is changing I think where big bodied mids is not where the game is going. We’ve got enough of those at present. What we lack are mids with break away speed, quick thinking, quick hands like Daicos and Ashcroft who are not big bodied but can move and link play through the centre corridor.
Don’t think Lalor is that type. More so Smith, Draper or FOS who I think we should target in that order depending on availability.
Thinking the same that the Kangaroos will reach for Tauru at pick 2We’ll probably start showing interest in Tauru to make sure North hang onto their pick, allowing us to nab FOS.
I like him as well. His highlights show he has an excellent skill package. And to me plays as if quicker than his combine sprint suggests. For reference bontempelli had an almost identical sprint time at his combine.Harvey Langford might be the one elite ball user
Not sure anyone will buy that, but Melbourne are already reportedly interested (or pretending to be so North uses pick 2 and a mid-slides). Doing it for us.We’ll probably start showing interest in Tauru to make sure North hang onto their pick, allowing us to nab FOS.
The top 5 are all ready to go, whereas a kid like Joe Berry would have to wait a bit before getting game time. If you could guarantee Tauru or a concussion-less Trainor with one of the picks I'd leap at it - but the game changing type mids are in the top 6-7.Nice post zee. Because you think the top end isn't as good as the last couple of drafts, would you have preferred to hold onto 12 and 14?
So, from my observation the main question mark around Jagga is whether he will fill out and if he has the body frame to grow into a size to match it with AFL level mids.
I’ll disagree only with your second paragraph. Josh Smillie is big time impact. Don’t care if he’s Cripps size, he’s a bull mid that can impact games. He can also go forward and play that 3rd tall. Touted early on as #1 pick potential and nothing has changed my belief. Trading with RICH for 6 and 11 would be ideal, but I’d take him at 1 also. The days of the Cripps, Bonts and Greens are far from over. Going to the bench after a goal is what should be over. Rest your bull mid in the forward line. Smillie measured 195.5. I’ll take all that. Cripps is also 29.Sat and watched some full games to put the highlights in perspective and came away with a wildly different set of rankings.
Honestly, don't think anyone in this draft comes near Harley Reid, McKercher, Sheezel etc. Some big ball winners like Jagga but I don't see any amazing kicks or damaging players at the top end except Murphy Reid.
Jagga Smith and Murphy Reid are my faves for this draft, though I'd happy with Langford, Lalor and Draper too. O'Sullivan for me just hasn't produced enough this year and reminds me of the talk around SPS in his u18 year after an amazing u17 year.
Will be shocked if someone bids on Ben Campo before 40 and I don't think we'd select either of the twins if they had a different surname. Ben is a good talent though, good build and applies himself well and gets where the ball is. Not damaging at all though. Lucas I'll withhold comment on.
Armstrong and Kako are guns, Essendon will be spewing they aren't in a position to land both. Kako is extremely clean and has great skills and marks well for his height.
I simply didn't see Lalor get it enough or hit enough good kicks to be in the discussion with Dusty or De Goey. Draper has good traits but didn't watch him take a game by the scruff of the neck like Murphy Reid did. Reid obviously looks to have modelled his game on Daicos. Like a poor man's version of Nick, which is still worthy of a pick 3
Not sure WCE folded on the barass trade- has set them up well for next yearCan’t see the Roos trading back from pick 2. The only suitable trading partner is Richmond, and the Roos will be spooked that the Dees might grab Tauru at 5.
Early top 5 prediction is:
1. Lalor
2. Tauru
3. FOS
4. Draper
5. Smith
Regardless at pick 3, we’ll have a few high quality players on the board that can impact next year and I have full faith that we’ll select a great player with Austin and Wright at the helm.
It really was fantastic trading to walk away with pick 3 in such a good draft. That pick swap with Hawthorn was an inspired idea. Both teams really backed West Coast into a corner and left them no choice but to fold on both the Baker trade and the Barass trade.
I come in peace. Well done on executing that trade with WC. You were the envy of the comp when that dropped.It's funny how hell-bent Richmond supporters are on getting Lalor and FOS when they aren't getting much love here. Everyone's seeing the same footage. Not a criticism. Just interesting.
I think he will fill out but not a crazy amount. I think he will get to a size similar to Gulden but obviously taller than Gulden.So from my observation the main question mark around Jagga is whether he will fill out and if he has the body frame to grow into a size to match it with AFL level mids.
Agree Baker was the catalyst. Looking at the Barass trade in isolation, WC were asking for 14 plus a 2nd rounder. The deal ended up being a future first (less valuable than 14) plus a 2nd and a late pick.Not sure WCE folded on the barass trade- has set them up well for next year
Their fault was trading in a player in Baker who still had loyalty to Richmond and wanted them compensated. It was their commitment to Baker that caused them the grief imo
If Jagga, FOS & Lalor are taken top-3, do you take Draper, or someone else?I come in peace. Well done on executing that trade with WC. You were the envy of the comp when that dropped.
What I find funny (not criticism) is how much your board loves Draper. I’m concerned about his lack of polish and propensity to panic with ball in hand, tends to put the receiver under pressure. He doesn’t hit the scoreboard all that often either.
Now, I know these kids are not perfect and there’s plenty of improvement to come. Im just concerned that he won’t be able to iron out his panicky ways/lack of poise? It’s why I’d be happy for Jagga to slide to us at 4. But, hey, what would I know.
Interesting times ahead, nonetheless. Good luck.
Would then have Jagga, Keath and Charlie in the side. Can't lose.
14 vs F1 - which is being more valuable depends on what they can do with it- if it’s enough to help them get Warner then I think they are probably okAgree Baker was the catalyst. Looking at the Barass trade in isolation, WC were asking for 14 plus a 2nd rounder. The deal ended up being a future first (less valuable than 14) plus a 2nd and a late pick.
The hawks walked away with an additional 2nd round pick than they would have if they accepted West Coast’s initial demands and we walked away with pick 3.
And Joe good for the player being drafted!Also, how good is it to be picking this high up again whilst not actually being dog shiite?