Rumour 2024 Rumours and Speculation Part 2

[Scorpus]

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Rumor summary September 30

• FiveAA claims we are after Scott Borlace, current Head of Development at Brisbane (link)
• Claims of Rory Sloane
  9

  Rory Sloane

  Age

  34

  Ht

  183cm

  Wt

  87kg

  Pos.

  Mid

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  23.7

  5star

  K

  11.7

  4star

  HB

  11.9

  5star

  M

  3.5

  4star

  T

  6.6

  5star

  CL

  5.7

  5star

  D

  15.3

  4star

  K

  7.3

  3star

  HB

  8.0

  4star

  M

  1.3

  1star

  T

  3.3

  4star

  CL

  4.2

  5star

  D

  22.2

  5star

  K

  8.6

  4star

  HB

  13.6

  5star

  M

  3.2

  4star

  T

  6.0

  5star

  CL

  4.6

  5star

  heading to Melbourne Demons as a development coach, but maybe not before asking for a job at the Crows first?
• Inside Trading suggests we are interested in Gold Coast's pick 12 (link)
• Inside Trading also suggests Clayton Oliver
  13

  Clayton Oliver

  Age

  27

  Ht

  189cm

  Wt

  88kg

  Pos.

  Mid

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  27.8

  5star

  K

  9.5

  4star

  HB

  18.4

  5star

  M

  3.2

  3star

  T

  6.3

  5star

  CL

  6.3

  5star

  D

  25.1

  5star

  K

  11.1

  4star

  HB

  14.0

  5star

  M

  3.6

  4star

  T

  5.6

  5star

  CL

  5.9

  5star

  D

  19.2

  5star

  K

  4.6

  2star

  HB

  14.6

  5star

  M

  2.0

  3star

  T

  4.4

  5star

  CL

  3.8

  5star

  is possibly back on the trade table, but doesn't link him to any specific clubs

Rumor summary October 1

• We have offered Darcy Fogarty
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  Darcy Fogarty

  Age

  25

  Ht

  194cm

  Wt

  100kg

  Pos.

  Fwd

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  8.5

  2star

  K

  5.7

  2star

  HB

  2.8

  2star

  M

  3.7

  4star

  T

  1.7

  4star

  G

  1.2

  4star

  D

  6.3

  1star

  K

  4.0

  1star

  HB

  2.3

  2star

  M

  3.0

  3star

  T

  2.3

  3star

  G

  1.0

  4star

  D

  8.0

  2star

  K

  5.4

  2star

  HB

  2.6

  3star

  M

  3.4

  4star

  T

  2.6

  4star

  G

  1.0

  4star

  a five year contract extension early ahead of free agency (link)
• We are attempting to lure Graham Wright to our football department (link)

Rumor summary October 2-3

• Graham Wright, who we are chasing as a head of football, is also being chased by Carlton for a CEO position (link)

Rumor summary October 4-5

• Gettable claiming pick 25 for Neal-Bullen and a future 2nd for Peatling (link)

Rumor summary October 6

• Tom Morris claims we are open to splitting pick 4 (link)

Rumor summary October 7

• No new rumors, although Justin Reid confirmed we'll use pick 28 on Neal-Bullen

 

[Vader]

Nope, the Collingwood interest was real, Berry's best mates with Eddie's 2 sons, he actually spent part of his holidays overseas with them. I think he eventually lands there

Collingwood may have been interested, but their interest (i.e. offers made through his management) clearly wasn't strong enough to make Berry consider not re-signing. Effectively, no buyers.

 

[Danger in Texas]

My guess is that the options would have been ranked:
1. Trade
2. Re-sign
3. Delist

We already have an abundance of players coming out of contract in 2025 who won't be on the list in 2026, and he's shown a fair bit this year. There was no reason why they should have given him a 2-year contract. This is not one deal which is ever likely to appear on Kane's infamous "worst 10 contracts" list.

I get it, but the awkward thing is that Nicks clearly rates him. How do we know he won’t get games over more promising players such as Taylor, Dowling, Edwards and whoever we take at 4?

IMO it’s better to take that temptation away completely. Fair enough if we don’t want multiple guys coming OOC in 2025, but he shouldn’t be a long-term player

 

[119others]

28 isn't old damn people carry on like 30 and your done , this guy has been top 5 in Melbourne's bnf the last 4 years he could play 5 years or more

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Good call. He isn’t reliant on blistering pace but more footy smarts, skills and hardness. Incredibly durable and averaged 24 games a year since their premiership year. Finishing 3rd in B&F and career highs in disposals. Great mentor and leadership overall for a young and inexperienced team and forward line.

We all want “a bargain” (Dawson) but we are getting a very solid good footballer and excellent person around the club. Potentially slightly over paying (by not much) isn’t worth getting worked up over IMO when we only have pick 4 and Welsh in the ND anyway (that’s actually a bigger negative)

 

[George Kramer]

If we can't use the pick anyway, who cares?

Thats just shit list management though, 15th and we should not be this tight for list spots.

 

[Thrillthorpe7]

Reports this morning saying we will part with 28 for ANB and that it is expected to be one of the first deals done.

Is it just me or is that spineless and pathetic from us?

ANB is a solid player (not elite), he's moving home for family reasons, has the blessing of Melbounre to do so, and has nominated one single club.
No-one pays full price in those circumstances, yet we can't wait to do so? Why? A 3rd rounder would be fair.

ANB is not just a 'solid player', he's a consistent high place finisher in the B&F of a team that has won the top 3 amount of games over the last 5 years, including a premiership (he was also very good in that premiership and is a proven finals performer). I know it's hard to comprehend that someone could actually be elite in this role after years of Murphy and McHenry, but ANB is a genuine gun and Melbourne aren't going to just hand him over for a packet of chips. Pick 28 is more than fair and given F2 goes for Peatling, it really doesn't matter what pick goes for who.

 

[adelaidecrows]

Good call. He isn’t reliant on blistering pace but more footy smarts, skills and hardness. Incredibly durable and averaged 24 games a year since their premiership year. Finishing 3rd in B&F and career highs in disposals. Great mentor and leadership overall for a young and inexperienced team and forward line.

We all want “a bargain” (Dawson) but we are getting a very solid good footballer and excellent person around the club. Potentially slightly over paying (by not much) isn’t worth getting worked up over IMO when we only have pick 4 and Welsh in the ND anyway (that’s actually a bigger negative)

Im not arguing against any of that. I just think its a bit expensive for a player in the golden years of their career.

 

[119others]

Peatling and Berry are both clearance-winning mids, that like to work hard defensively and tend to accelerate from stoppage if they can

Difference is, Peatling has the speed that makes him more effective at accelerating from stoppage than Berry, while also having better decision-making skills, which sees him often being the more effective ball user

baldandbroke the main similarities are the defensive nature of both mids. That’s about where it ends though agreed. Peatling and Berry both gun tacklers and Peatling definitely had defensive tagging (cooling) jobs on players in the quarters I have gone back and watched from the year inc on Oliver, Zorko and McCluggage - but he also wins his own ball even when doing these jobs. Peatling far more agile and pacy and hits the loose ball hard.

Is an exciting prospect but certainly not a guaranteed gun. More big potential ceiling upside and that’s why 7 clubs chased him.

 

[BunjiMC]

Thats just shit list management though, 15th and we should not be this tight for list spots.

Agreed it's poor list management. But that's the position we are in.

 

[George Kramer]

We should be trying to get something additional coming back our way. Maybe a F3 pick seeing as we aren't really interested in this year's draft.

Given how deep this draft is, it’s amazing we aren’t participating in it.

 

[Crow till I die]

He was supposed to make

We both know that if Nicks makes the finals and we get flogged, The club will hail Nicks the next messiah and sign him to a 5 year contract extension.

Finals the year just gone and went backwards at a rate of knots. But our board seem to enjoy backing the washington generals approach

 

[BunjiMC]

Thats just shit list management though, 15th and we should not be this tight for list spots.

Agreed it's poor list management. But that's the position we are in.

 

[Freshj]

ANB seems to be rated highly at Melbourne from a character and leadership perspective, aswell as his BnF finishes being solid. I'd be interested if he or the club have a bit of an eye on a development position or something along those lines once his playing career finishes. Always good to have quality people from different clubs.

 

[Thrillthorpe7]

He is 29 when the season starts next year. Ben Brown his team mate just retired at 31. Rory Sloane retired at 34 but has been useless since he was 31. Thats how quick players can go south. Effictively at best we should hope for 3 seasons. Anything extra is a bonus.

Ben Brown has had injury issues for most of his career, ANB has not, not remotely comparable situations. Someone as durable as ANB can be playing high quality footy well into their mid 30s. Zorko and Sidebottom are far more relevant examples.

 

[Vader]

You quote these players yet pendlebery , zorko, danger are all 34+ and still playing good football so who knows

Yes, there are freaks who play well into their 30s, but they are the exceptions rather than the rule.

As adelaidecrows said, any good footy he plays beyond his 3rd season on Adelaide's list should be seen as a bonus. Not saying that it won't happen, but that we shouldn't be banking on it happening.

 

[Thrillthorpe7]

Yes, there are freaks who play well into their 30s, but they are the exceptions rather than the rule.

As adelaidecrows said, any good footy he plays beyond his 3rd season on Adelaide's list should be seen as a bonus. Not saying that it won't happen, but that we shouldn't be banking on it happening.

It depends on a lot on durability and the role they play. ANB is highly durable, has an immense workrate and plays a role that isn't too contested. They are all reasons why the likes of Zorko and Sidebottom can continue to play very good footy into their mid 30s.

 

[Shifty Crow]

Joe Richards requests a trade to Port Adelaide

Port have offered him a 3 year deal - be it this year for the pies, played 9 games and 6 of them against teams outside the 8, averaged 11 possessions and less than a goal a game


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[adelaidecrows]

It depends on a lot on durability and the role they play. ANB is highly durable, has an immense workrate and plays a role that isn't too contested. They are all reasons why the likes of Zorko and Sidebottom can continue to play very good footy into their mid 30s.

Mate, no one is saying AnB isnt a good player and wont be a more than serviceable inclusion. It is currently an insane argument though. No one is arguing against your points. Other than this weird conclusion you have made that AnB will play well into his 30s. You cant assume that. Aside from the fact he may not want to, players can slow down really quickly. Can not predict anything.

 

[adelaidecrows]

Joe Richards requests a trade to Port Adelaide

Port have offered him a 3 year deal - be it this year for the pies, played 9 games and 6 of them against teams outside the 8, averaged 11 possessions and less than a goal a game


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Port are down to their missing pieces being potential.

 

[Vader]

It depends on a lot on durability and the role they play. ANB is highly durable, has an immense workrate and plays a role that isn't too contested. They are all reasons why the likes of Zorko and Sidebottom can continue to play very good footy into their mid 30s.

It can happen - nobody is saying that it doesn't. But it's incredibly rare that it does. Anyone banking on it happening is a certifiable moron.

At his age, you bank on 3 good years - anything you get beyond that is a bonus.

 

[50BC]

We're currently at 37+3, including ANB/Cumming/Peatling.

Transferring 2 players to the rookie list, and Keane to the senior list, leaves us at 36+4.

That's 2 picks in the ND, and no live picks in the RD.

The only way to increase the number of picks now is to trade or delist a contracted player. Silvers has stated that they are not expecting that to happen.

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That's very much my understanding, there isn't much left in trade week for us other than to see exactly what the ANB and Peatling trades cost us and who is going to be moved to the rookie list. Then it's off to ND draft for pick 4 and Welsh F/S and then formally redrafting in the rookie draft the aforementioned 2.

 

[50BC]

Port are down to their missing pieces being potential.

A chunk of Ports list us made up of <1 goal a game forwards, so obviously they would be keen to add yet another.

 

[adelaidecrows]

A chunk of Ports list us made up of <1 goal a game forwards, so obviously they would be keen to add yet another.

add another <1 game forward. They will have them on rotation?

 

[1970crow]

All indications are that Berry's management went looking for options and couldn't find any takers.

Yes, we would have been better off trading him, but re-signing was still better than delisting.

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So no other club was interested and we then extend him for 2 years.

 

[1970crow]

Your earlier point about the inactive list is interesting. Maybe theres a long term injury we dont know about which will have someone inactive for 2025 which would create another list spot til all the 2025 delistings occur of which there should be many.
In fact, couldn't smith be moved to inactive list and just play sanfl?

I don't think the inactive list survives outside of the season.

 

[whattagun07]

I feel sick. Hamish's list has proven to work against us, just pick the best available midfielder.

Wouldn't put it past Hamish to think he can outsmart every other club and take the 'best player in the draft' at pick 12.
If Reid has half a brain, he will take 4 to the draft.