Rumour 2024 Rumours and Speculation Part 2

[Scorpus]

Spoiler: Older Rumors

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Rumors from September 30

• FiveAA claims we are after Scott Borlace, current Head of Development at Brisbane (link)
• Claims of Rory Sloane
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  Rory Sloane

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  heading to Melbourne Demons as a development coach, but maybe not before asking for a job at the Crows first?
• Inside Trading suggests we are interested in Gold Coast's pick 12 (link)
• Inside Trading also suggests Clayton Oliver
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  is possibly back on the trade table, but doesn't link him to any specific clubs

Rumors from October 1

• We have offered Darcy Fogarty
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  a five year contract extension early ahead of free agency (link)
• We are attempting to lure Graham Wright to our football department (link)

Rumors from October 2-3

• Graham Wright, who we are chasing as a head of football, is also being chased by Carlton for a CEO position (link)

Rumors from October 4-5

• Gettable claiming pick 25 for Neal-Bullen and a future 2nd for Peatling (link)

Rumors from October 6

• Tom Morris claims we are open to splitting pick 4 (link)

Rumor summary October 8

• Jon Ralph claims we are not prepared to use a future 2nd on Peatling (link)

Rumor summary October 9

• Graham Wright will not join Adelaide, instead taking up the Carlton CEO role (link)
• Tom Morris claims the Peatling trade will involve future 2nd and 3rd round picks, and we have offered him a four year deal at about $600k per season (link)
• Riley Beveridge claims we asked GWS if they were interested in one of our players in the Peatling trade (link)

Rumor summary October 10

• Collingwood are interested in Justin Reid as their new head of football (link)
• GWS want our future 2nd and pick 46 for Peatling (link)

Rumor summary October 11

• Poster claims we are attempting to lure Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera, maybe in 2025 (link)
• Tom Morris claims we will do the Peatling deal for pick 46 and a future 2nd provided there are other late pick swaps (link)

Rumor summary October 13

• Tom Morris suggests we have offered a trade involving a swap of future 2nds for Peatling (link)

Rumor summary October 15

• After West Coast got absolutely rogered, Cal Twomey claims we have offered either two future 3rds for Peatling, or a swap of 2nds and a future 3rd (link)
• We have interest in Sam Davidson from Richmond VFL (link)
• Mitch Cleary claims some GWS players are facing suspensions from the AFL due to behaviour at an end of season event (link)
• Brett Montgomery is staying at GWS, meaning we were unsuccessful at luring him (link)

Rumor summary October 16

• Stalemate on the Peatling trade as of 4pm, with us threatening to send him to the PSD (link)

 

[adelaidecrows]

Cmon man, that’s just not true. He probably wouldn’t get sacked under that scenario but he also wouldn’t be getting an extension (certainly not a multi year one)

Oh no, they will almost certainly extend his contract. I suspect likely an extra 2 years. But in that circumstance of making finals, they will see it as a green light.

 

[Crouch#44]

We have a good team. Its our coach that sucks. I hope with the new appointments he may not suck enough to actually let the team perform.

Be descriptive on why Nicks is the problem?

 

[119others]

Oh no, they will almost certainly extend his contract. I suspect likely an extra 2 years. But in that circumstance of making finals, they will see it as a green light.

Fair enough, let’s agree to disagree as I would put good money on the club NOT extending Nicks after a massive week one finals thumping. Especially after the lesson from this year about extending prematurely.

All academic anyway and let’s hope we even make the finals as otherwise I think it’s fait accompli Nicks is goneski

 

[DJ75]

Reports this morning saying we will part with 28 for ANB and that it is expected to be one of the first deals done.

Is it just me or is that spineless and pathetic from us?

ANB is a solid player (not elite), he's moving home for family reasons, has the blessing of Melbounre to do so, and has nominated one single club.
No-one pays full price in those circumstances, yet we can't wait to do so? Why? A 3rd rounder would be fair.

 

[BunjiMC]

Reports this morning saying we will part with 28 for ANB and that it is expected to be one of the first deals done.

Is it just me or is that spineless and pathetic from us?

ANB is a solid player (not elite), he's moving home for family reasons, has the blessing of Melbounre to do so, and has nominated one single club.
No-one pays full price in those circumstances, yet we can't wait to do so? Why? A 3rd rounder would be fair.

If we can't use the pick anyway, who cares?

 

[adelaidecrows]

Reports this morning saying we will part with 28 for ANB and that it is expected to be one of the first deals done.

Is it just me or is that spineless and pathetic from us?

ANB is a solid player (not elite), he's moving home for family reasons, has the blessing of Melbounre to do so, and has nominated one single club.
No-one pays full price in those circumstances, yet we can't wait to do so? Why? A 3rd rounder would be fair.

At the time we probably didnt think we would get Peatling and negotiated this. But ANB is a pick in the #40s at best. His age profile is not long term. Ridiculous price for a role player.

 

[FR0GGY]

The ever optimist says ANB is in for Murphy. Thats the clear comparison. Murphy should be the 33rd player selected every week. Surely he doesnt survive all 3 inclusions plus young players. That would be an utter disaster at selection.

Fixed

 

[FR0GGY]

If we can't use the pick anyway, who cares?

Because you can forward credit into next year.
No need to throw it away.

 

[adelaidecrows]

Be descriptive on why Nicks is the problem?

hahaha

I see you are new here. Go through the Nicks threads. There is a whole host of posts. Im not going to sit here an entertain someone too lazy to go and read. Especially someone who didnt even bother to outline why Nicks isnt the problem.

 

[Amacca 23]

At the time we probably didnt think we would get Peatling and negotiated this. But ANB is a pick in the #40s at best. His age profile is not long term. Ridiculous price for a role player.

28 isn't old damn people carry on like 30 and your done , this guy has been top 5 in Melbourne's bnf the last 4 years he could play 5 years or more

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[Sizzlepack]

I don't love the deal for that price, especially because we have a knack of finding good players with late second-rounders, but there is a lot of underrating of Neal-Bullen on here. He'll replace the worst player in our 22 with Keays-level production for at least 3 years while mentoring our small/medium forwards.

 

[119others]

Reports this morning saying we will part with 28 for ANB and that it is expected to be one of the first deals done.

Is it just me or is that spineless and pathetic from us?

ANB is a solid player (not elite), he's moving home for family reasons, has the blessing of Melbounre to do so, and has nominated one single club.
No-one pays full price in those circumstances, yet we can't wait to do so? Why? A 3rd rounder would be fair.

Let’s wait for final details but if it’s purely pick 28 then I agree it’s slight overs. But anything after 40 would be unders for a role model premiership player who just finished 3rd in their B&F.

My view is pick 35 was theoretically about right but it’s all irrelevant as we can only take Welsh in addition to pick 4 with our list dynamics (which is another whole issue in itself)

 

[Vader]

I got the impression Collingwood was interested?

If there was no takers, surely we would’ve signed Berry to a 1-year deal? But of course that’s not how Reid rolls when it comes to negotiating contracts

My guess is that the options would have been ranked:
1. Trade
2. Re-sign
3. Delist

We already have an abundance of players coming out of contract in 2025 who won't be on the list in 2026, and he's shown a fair bit this year. There was no reason why they should have given him a 2-year contract. This is not one deal which is ever likely to appear on Kane's infamous "worst 10 contracts" list.

 

[jackster83]

You really believe ANB and Murphy will both play round one? (Assuming not injuries to multiple other small forwards like Keays, Rachele etc)?

Happy to bookmark but surely ANB replaces Murphy here

I'll be happy if I'm wrong here, so feel free to bookmark it.

 

[Danger in Texas]

I don't see them as being comparable at all? Peatling is a quick clean explosive type of player ... Berry is a tacking grunt in-and-under type.

Berry and Crouch - very similar. Except ... Crouch has god-hands when it comes to grabbing the footy - Berry has spirit fingers. Both tackle well, Berry better. Berry a better mark. Neither great disposers.

Could be wrong ... maybe after a we see Peatling in our 22 we will get more of an idea where his best characteristics lie?

Peatling and Berry are both clearance-winning mids, that like to work hard defensively and tend to accelerate from stoppage if they can

Difference is, Peatling has the speed that makes him more effective at accelerating from stoppage than Berry, while also having better decision-making skills, which sees him often being the more effective ball user

 

[Vader]

Your earlier point about the inactive list is interesting. Maybe theres a long term injury we dont know about which will have someone inactive for 2025 which would create another list spot til all the 2025 delistings occur of which there should be many.
In fact, couldn't smith be moved to inactive list and just play sanfl?

Smith could... but they'd be batshit insane to do so. The only players who get placed on the Inactive List are those who have retired or suffered season-ending injuries. Clubs don't do it to fit & active players, who are still eligible for AFL selection.

 

[adelaidecrows]

28 isn't old damn people carry on like 30 and your done , this guy has been top 5 in Melbourne's bnf the last 4 years he could play 5 years or more

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He is 29 when the season starts next year. Ben Brown his team mate just retired at 31. Rory Sloane retired at 34 but has been useless since he was 31. Thats how quick players can go south. Effictively at best we should hope for 3 seasons. Anything extra is a bonus.

 

[Scorpus]

If we can't use the pick anyway, who cares?

We can still use it to upgrade other picks, improve our position in 2025, etc

 

[jackster83]

If we can't use the pick anyway, who cares?

We should be trying to get something additional coming back our way. Maybe a F3 pick seeing as we aren't really interested in this year's draft.

 

[BunjiMC]

We can still use it to upgrade other picks, improve our position in 2025, etc

But maybe we are getting a 2025 3rd round pick back?

 

[adelaidecrows]

We should be trying to get something additional coming back our way. Maybe a F3 pick seeing as we aren't really interested in this year's draft.

We are interested but dont have the list space. But you are right, could definitely use it to get a pick F2

 

[Amacca 23]

He is 29 when the season starts next year. Ben Brown his team mate just retired at 31. Rory Sloane retired at 34 but has been useless since he was 31. Thats how quick players can go south. Effictively at best we should hope for 3 seasons. Anything extra is a bonus.

You quote these players yet pendlebery , zorko, danger are all 34+ and still playing good football so who knows

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[1990crow]

We can still use it to upgrade other picks, improve our position in 2025, etc

Our poor list management (trigger for Smith, signing up players for too long deals) has led us to not having the list space to take any players past pick 4.

Compounded by this reality, overpaying for a 29 year old because the pick simply can't be used.

 

[adelaidecrows]

But maybe we are getting a 2025 3rd round pick back?

Steak Knife pick swaps are likely

 

[adelaidecrows]

You quote these players yet pendlebery , zorko, danger are all 34+ and still playing good football so who knows

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You do realise there are far more players in their late 20s playing AFL then players playing who are over 31.