List Mgmt. 2024 Trade Thread - No.3

[akaifu]

Hypothetical

Instead of looking to trade up, should we have looked to trade out of Pick 8?

It's a sellers market, and maybe it would have been good to slide back to P16 and a F1 from GWS, or something similar.

Discuss.

Mate this was literally discussed less than an hour ago

 

[Significant]

Mate this was literally discussed less than an hour ago

Apologies, might not have come across with the new thread.

 

[HeavenlySources]

He looks every bit a midfield that can go forward and can play inside and outside type of roles - admittedly lacks some pace.

Has nothing to do with Pou

Yep, fair enough not a bad choice just prefer others. Can't deny his consistency and seems to have a high work ethic based on his 2km time trial despite his lack of 'explosive' pace.

 

[akaifu]

Apologies, might not have come across with the new thread.

No problem. This is what I contributed:

I'm assuming pick 3 is off the table

Hayes, Paton, Hotton, Membrey remain OOC. At least 3 will depart

That would make 10 total departures (including Crouch), and one list spot already filled by Max Hall so 9 left

Assuming we trade F1 and F2 for 15 and 16

Picks:
7
8
15
16
27
Cole
Hofmann
Peckett
Sandy rookie
Macrae
Ruck/Phillips/Taylor*

That's 11 players, so 2 over maximum

Ideally we take something like 7,15,16,27 (split pick 8) and pass on the * list spot

Or, assume pick 3 is available:

Take 3, 7, 26, 27 if we do 8 + F1 for 3 + 26

Come draft night, 26 + 27 could turn into an early 20s or teens pick for any sliders

Therefore, 6 list spots via draft which leaves a list spot available for one of the * players

List Mgmt. - 2024 Trade Thread - No.3

7 & 8 looks alright to me. Not sure I buy into this idea that there is an emerging clear top 4. Smillie was consensus number 1 a month ago, doesn't appear to have done much wrong. Don't see why he can't be the best player in the draft. This is so true. Suddenly there is an elite four and...

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[stavro#4]

Insider trading saying Daniel to the Roos a chance but the mutts don’t want to lose all 3 Macrae smith Daniel

 

[Joffaboy]

Insider trading saying Daniel to the Roos a chance but the mutts don’t want to lose all 3 Macrae smith Daniel

Oh well, tried and couldn't, do it, we take 47 to the draft and get a Garcia type.

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[Pardon me]

Insider trading saying Daniel to the Roos a chance but the mutts don’t want to lose all 3 Macrae smith Daniel

Yeah makes sense.
Their depth would be qookd.

 

[BrutThough]

If Dogs won't trade Macrae, they need to let us know so we can potentially try to get someone else on the last 24 hours, such as Kennedy if he is still willing to move.

 

[Jade Buddha]

So essentially after all that we are doing nothing.

 

[stavro#4]

Oh well, tried and couldn't, do it, we take 47 to the draft and get a Garcia type.

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I’m all for being a campaigner.

But the boss also wanted senior bodies and it’s looking bleak

 

[HeavenlySources]

How would you or he know what the exact need is though? Answer is you don't.

I have one over you. I absolutely know that Lyon wants mids who has good disposal. That means a player like Xavier Lindsay. So we may have him at pick at as an absolute need and best fit while Towmey may have him at 15.
I don't want to hear absolute need, we chose Billings as the best no.3 and most experts agreed.
We selected Wilson at 18 because he was an elite gut runner who also has great disposal.
Just because there is a sudden big 4 in the desperate delusions of the panicked doesn't mean we should piss away our hand when the deal is not in our favour.

Absolute case of keyboard list management because people are bored.

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I watch our games and some footage of the draftees and videos etc like everyone else. We absolutely have a need for a breakaway pacey mid.

Someone who can do this:

Butters leaves Saints in his wake with clearance sizzler

Zak Butters turns on the afterburners to slot a brilliant goal out of the middle of the ground

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have one over me? what? If we do take 8 to the draft then Lindsay isn't a bad choice but hopefully we are switched on enough to slide back because he isn't as highly rated as some others. Sits at 18 in Cals assessment. I'd probably do 8 for 15 & 16 in that case.

 

[akaifu]

I watch our games and some footage of the draftees and videos etc like everyone else. We absolutely have a need for a breakaway pacey mid.

Someone who can do this:

Butters leaves Saints in his wake with clearance sizzler

Zak Butters turns on the afterburners to slot a brilliant goal out of the middle of the ground

www.afl.com.au

have one over me? what? If we do take 8 to the draft then Lindsay isn't a bad choice but hopefully we are switched on enough to slide back because he isn't as highly rated as some others. Sits at 18 in Cals assessment. I'd probably do 8 for 15 & 16 in that case.

If we do 8 for 15&16 I wouldn't be surprised if Giants take Lindsay at 8. Certainly won't get past the top 12 open pool picks imo

 

[Pardon me]

I’m all for being a campaigner.

But the boss also wanted senior bodies and it’s looking bleak

What’s G train up to these days besides smashing pies?
Get him in the guts for a couple of minutes each q - one stare and shirtfront from big Frase and I don’t think we need to worry about our kids walking the pill out of the middle.

 

[Stan_Darsh72]

So essentially after all that we are doing nothing.

Sometimes the winning move is to not play.

 

[SaintsSeptember]

So essentially after all that we are doing nothing.

Sometimes doing nothing is the best choice.
Though i could never quite convince my wife of that.

 

[akaifu]

Sometimes the winning move is to not play.

And sometimes it isn't

Good thing we're keeping our F1 for next year

 

[austinnn]

Let's see who gets desperate during the live trading.

 

[Joffaboy]

I’m all for being a campaigner.

But the boss also wanted senior bodies and it’s looking bleak

Can get it. We have the capital. But is it worth it?
Sounds like we can't get it done. Bulldogs have a disgruntled player like Dunkley.
Smith, Daniel and Macrae all want out. Nobody wants in, Dogs maybe should look internally I reckon.

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[Joffaboy]

And sometimes it isn't

Good thing we're keeping our F1 for next year

So who should we trade it to? And what for?
Why this desperation to trade for the sake of it?

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[ThomasR]

Can get it. We have the capital. But is it worth it?
Sounds like we can't get it done. Bulldogs have a disgruntled player like Dunkley.
Smith, Daniel and Macrae all want out. Nobody wants in, Dogs maybe should look internally I reckon.

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I heard that Dalrymple rates Marcus Bontempelli (2025 UFA)

 

[dudeintheswamp]

What's a realistic trade for Kennedy look like if the lobsters off?

 

[stavro#4]

Can get it. We have the capital. But is it worth it?
Sounds like we can't get it done. Bulldogs have a disgruntled player like Dunkley.
Smith, Daniel and Macrae all want out. Nobody wants in, Dogs maybe should look internally I reckon.

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If our net outlay is pick 8 for Battle.

Then we will have gone backwards in the short term

 

[Sarcoidevo]

Who is this Flamingo why do you keep thinking is me? because I have a different opinion? hahaha I disagree that's not a troll, and I'm certainly not hitting the panic button either. I want the best for the club and It's an assessment of player type and needs. I would be disappointed and frustrated that we passed up an opportunity to move-up for one of these players that fit a need. Simply out of an abundance of caution. I'm not claiming to be an expert either, I referred to Cal who is one in my post.

So what needs do these Top 4 players fit that we cant get in players that might be available at 7 & 8

FOS - looks a great package but didn't set the world on fire .... will likely go pick 1

Lalor - mid/forward .... explosive but body isn't seemingly holding up .... hip issues and now a high grade hamstring .... will go top 2 if Richmond get pick 2 from North

So FOS & Lalor ... likely unavailable anyway

Jagga - high possession small mid with great agility though suspect hurt factor for the amount of disposals he racks up ... could be available at Pick 3 ... unlikely to get pick 7

Draper - explosive mid .... good from clearance but tends to handball more than kick ... doesnt hit the scoreboard often ..... had a relatively average Champs against Vic & WA sides but played solid footy for SA senior level ... should be available at pick 3 though destined for Adelaide at pick 4

Langford - mid who can go forward and kicks goals ... question marks about pace and separation from stoppage but no slower than Cripps or Bont at same age .... could go top 5 ... could be available at 7

Smillie - see Langford ... likely available at 7

Reid - won Vic Metro MVP at Champs ... smaller mid but very smart operator .... not super quick but is a good decision maker with solid skills ... should be available at pick 7

Lindsay - won the Morrish Medal and was BOG for Vic Country v Metro ..... best kick in the draft ... smooth mover who can alternate between HB/wing and midfield ... available pick 7

Travaglia - played mid in Coates League but mainly off half back for Vic Country ... breaks lines and has a competitive streak ... available pick 7

Personally if we got Langford or Smillie (pick 7) & then Reid or Lindsay (pick 8) I would be very happy .... 1 big mid and 1 smaller mid

 

[akaifu]

So who should we trade it to? And what for?
Why this desperation to trade for the sake of it?

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Sydney are asking North Melbourne for pick 44 in return for Luke Parker.

 

[botts]

Let's see who gets desperate during the live trading.

Melbourne would be keen on Armstrong at 9. Wonder what they can offer us to not take him. Think they will just call our bluff though