Undersized compared to them, by quite a margin. But all battlers, for various reasons.
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Iām really not sure how to respond to that but Iāll give it a go.
IMO Kemp doesnāt have any AFL quality midfield qualities which isnāt really surprising given he hasnāt played or trained as a midfielder in the 5 years he has been on an AFL list. To say that Kemp does based on a rookie scouting report >6 years ago is generous.
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Kemp will be best used as an intercept defender given license to run and gun.
Or to put it another way McGovern's role.
Yes he looks bad playing as our second key defender. He doesn't have the aptitude for a key defensive post
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Or to put it another way McGovern's role.
Yes he looks bad playing as our second key defender. He doesn't have the aptitude for a key defensive post
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Whatever Kemp is, he needs to improve at it. He did well in games the midfield dominated but was shakey when under pressure and ultimately only played in his non preferred role due to injuries by the end of the year. We would be better served trying to get Lewis Young up to scratch
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I feel Iāll likely get shot down, but Iād absolutely look at Rohan. Unless his head is cooked but Iām sure Iāve read he wants to go on. Has plenty of pace to burn so even as a low accumulator the pressure he brings I think would be worth a look.
Apologise if already discussed as well
Apologise if already discussed as well
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He has clean, fast hands, he has burst from congestion, agility, keeps the ball ticking over and pretty good vision for a long pass by foot.
You're just so used to watching him track in a defensive zone or forcing a pack up forward you've forgotten what he looks like when he gets to dictate his own movement, but you're doing so with an enormous amount of bias:
I dunno how you're not seeing it. Again, I ask you to name a specific thing you feel he can't do in a hypothetical midfield role that he's not already been doing in a variety of defensive roles.
It all comes down to his ability to apply tactics and read the tap to help his team get an effective clearance, something we haven't really done outside of dominant taps/unblocked runs or TDK breaking open the play, so it's not like the bar can be any lower.
Agree with what you say about him being able to run freely as he has got the speed for that, but I feel that his skill set is better suited in the middle of the ground and into the forward line, as he is a bit of a chaos player in that he likes to just take off and roost the ball into attack and even though he may not hit targets up forward like we want it`s better than turning the ball over in the backline and paying for it with goals like has happened to him on a few occasions. Still can see him as an onballer, because he is built to physically hold his own in the middle and has that special ingredient that the club really does desire..........pace!!!
If Kemp can work on his tank without losing that burst speed he could have a pathway as Blacres successor on the wing - more likely however that he'll be off the list this time next year tbh
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not for mine, has pace, can take a mark and a great kick at goal but only plays 5-10 minutes a match, goes missing for the rest. He's also 33.
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I can understand your reasoning, but we really should be getting games into Moir.
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Many have Kemp as a walk up starter up there as well.
Kemp has midfield qualities. Particularly for a wing position.
1. Speed.
2. Endurance
3. Reads the play well.
4. Good overhead and at ground level.
5. Would be ideally suited to that defensive wing role where he drops back into the hole inside D50.
6. Kemp's best footy is any game where he has had the freedom to be able to play a little loser and play off his man. Particularly where he has played off half back and been able to push up into the midfield.
Personally I think he is going to excel as a third tall forward. The modern third tall forward is not a ruckman sized player like we used to see 10 or 15 years ago. It's not DeKoning. It's more your Jack Gunston type/size player. It has to be someone with good pace and a ground level game so they can impact on the ground and in the air but also have the running capacity to apply pressure, close in quick on a lose ball and chase the half backs when they go.
Kemp has already shown that he can mark the ball as a forward, kick straight but also chase down and tackle opposition and win the ground ball. He is exactly what we need up forward. The biggest issue of our forward line being the lack of strong overhead players. Kemp and Moir coming in will really improve our forward efficiency and ball movement.
I think Kemp could be a really good winger for us but I think he will be very valuable to us as a forward.
1. Speed.
2. Endurance
3. Reads the play well.
4. Good overhead and at ground level.
5. Would be ideally suited to that defensive wing role where he drops back into the hole inside D50.
6. Kemp's best footy is any game where he has had the freedom to be able to play a little loser and play off his man. Particularly where he has played off half back and been able to push up into the midfield.
Personally I think he is going to excel as a third tall forward. The modern third tall forward is not a ruckman sized player like we used to see 10 or 15 years ago. It's not DeKoning. It's more your Jack Gunston type/size player. It has to be someone with good pace and a ground level game so they can impact on the ground and in the air but also have the running capacity to apply pressure, close in quick on a lose ball and chase the half backs when they go.
Kemp has already shown that he can mark the ball as a forward, kick straight but also chase down and tackle opposition and win the ground ball. He is exactly what we need up forward. The biggest issue of our forward line being the lack of strong overhead players. Kemp and Moir coming in will really improve our forward efficiency and ball movement.
I think Kemp could be a really good winger for us but I think he will be very valuable to us as a forward.
He's already able to run 15km games so there isn't a huge need to work on his tank.
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What I don't understand is why are Geelong getting rid of him and taking a chance on Martin? Red flag if Geelong are happy to let him go?
Theyād be a handy combo switching off HFF as difficult matchups and can be a hit up plus scoring options.
Blacres also has a nice mark on him and gets to good spots in the forward-line.
I reckon we would have probably gone harder at a few DFAs but spots this year are limited.
Problem is the good DFA's may only come for two seasons and we will run into the same issues next season with not enough list spots available.
Cerra, Saad, Cincotta, Wilson, Kemp, Lord, Hewett, Lemmy, Silvagni, Motlop, McGovern, Newman, Haynes, Fantasia, Monahan, Docherty, DeKoning come out of contract next season.
Ideally you would think we will find it hard to make a cut from that list with most being required players.
Moir, Durdin, E Hollands, O'Keeffe, Binns, Boyd, Cowan, Fogarty, Young, O Hollands, Walsh and Williams come out of contract at the end of 2026.
Acres, Pittonet, Cottrell and Cripps at the end of 2027.
We have signed players up on ridiculous contracts. Fantasia, Fogarty, Young and Cottrell are on contracts that are too long. We should be looking at delisting these sorts at the end of next year as better players come in but we can't because of poor list management decisions. Maybe we got them much cheaper, I don't know. I am hoping that with Wright on board we stop signing VFL level players up for 2-4 years.
I can see us losing players like Cincotta, Lemmy, Silvagni, because we are stuck with players like Young and Cottrell.
I think we are probably asking DFA's, offering 1 years because of tight list spots and being rejected because clubs are offering them two or three years.
Iām sold, but itās not us u have to convince.
He goes forward & does well, his value is going to seriously increase. I really hope we start the season with a new look & give him a crack with some rotations.
SOS really threw a grenade over the wall, Kemp now knows thereās serious interest from other clubs, with him coming out of contract if we donāt at least explore his potential you canāt hold it against him if starts looking at options elsewhere.
Itās going to be interesting to see how this plays out.
Rohan is exactly the sort of player we need in our forward line. Reads the game, genuine forward, proven talent, specialise half forward flank, good overhead elite at ground level.
Problem is, is he cooked?
Like all the delisted players getting around, they would be looking for contract length and I just don't feel we can offer any of them that.
You would like to have the list space to give him 1 year and see how he goes.
Yep, players step up, they are going to demand more. I'm hoping we can offer him contract length and that keeps him like with all our top line players. Hoping he can be a bit of a Gunstan type.
We want other clubs to want our players.
I'm hoping Moir and kemp step up and we can have a clean out of C grade forwards and go hard at recruiting forwards at the end of next year.
I'm going to make the call. Cottrell, Fogarty, Fantasia are on their last contract with us and will be told to explore their options next season. Williams, Durdin and Motlop may also be in the same situation.
I think we go hard and will bring in a number of genuine forwards next season or late this one. Kemp and Moir will step up and we will be scrambling to get their contracts extended. Pick 3 will likely be able to play forward I feel as well.
I think a clean out of players is coming the next few seasons. Can see another mid who has been best 22 going as well.
So we will have space to move. It's just that we may struggle as some of these players are contracted so we may not be able to shift them.
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The big watch for me heading into this season is our internal growth.
If the youth can stand up it really opens up our options and creates great list depth and structure.
I'd be hoping that O'Keeffe (first ruck) and Lemmey (key fwd/second ruck) can make big gains this year, so they are trusted as the back ups to TDK and Harry in 2026, thus making Pittonet expendable.
Another is Motlop pushing past Williams as the best deep small forward option. This will help our list balance and may potentially open up a final year salary dump trade on Williams.
Another is Lord pushing past Cincotta for that defensive half forward and mid rotation. Cincotta was great there late in the season when he played, and Lord showed great promise in his 2 matches. Challenge should be laid down.
At the moment my very early crow for 2025 is:
1 more delisting needed to upgrade Cincotta and replace with a rookie, let alone any FA/trade acquisitions. Plenty to play out still obviously.
If the youth can stand up it really opens up our options and creates great list depth and structure.
I'd be hoping that O'Keeffe (first ruck) and Lemmey (key fwd/second ruck) can make big gains this year, so they are trusted as the back ups to TDK and Harry in 2026, thus making Pittonet expendable.
Another is Motlop pushing past Williams as the best deep small forward option. This will help our list balance and may potentially open up a final year salary dump trade on Williams.
Another is Lord pushing past Cincotta for that defensive half forward and mid rotation. Cincotta was great there late in the season when he played, and Lord showed great promise in his 2 matches. Challenge should be laid down.
At the moment my very early crow for 2025 is:
- Fantasia out, Tyson Gresham (NGA) in
- Pittonet out (if above is met), Jack Ison (NGA) in
1 more delisting needed to upgrade Cincotta and replace with a rookie, let alone any FA/trade acquisitions. Plenty to play out still obviously.
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Without even digging hard into my memory banks he's clean has lightning hands and a wicked spin out if trouble which he's deployed many times despite extremely limited chances to do so playing deep defense.
Why Cinc? He plays a valuable role, has pace, penetrating kick, tough as nails, can break lines & kicked ass as a stopper.
IMO Lord takes Hewetts spot from day 1, our mid field needs an update, Lord & pick 3 does that.
Cinc also has one other quality - he never stops trying! Doesnāt drop his head, just keeps at it & gives his all every single time.
I think you misread.
Cincotta will need to be elevated to the senior list in 13 months time.
Yep, think your right
