5 days of watching Kholi sad face looking at the rain since this would probably be his last BGT is a compelling argument of a rain out Test especially his behaviour this series.
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The people unable to see fairness most definitely but genuine cricket people no
The problem you have is a lot of Indians are in the unable to see fairness catagory it's undeniable and some of them are former players.
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listening to Okeefe and Haddin last night describing the SCG as the best stadium in Australia
Its a woeful AFL ground and an average cricket stadium. Not to mention the sluggish pitch and ordinary weather.
Adelaide oval is a far better cricket venue
No arguments here - but they are playing to their fan base - too many are hung up on the lack of snicko in terms of it being an essential element to overturn the decision when all you needed was ypur eyes and some common sense to give it out
I like the SCG as a cricket stadium the two old stands are great I just wish it was still a spinners wicket & didn't rain there so much. As an AFL venue it's garbage.listening to Okeefe and Haddin last night describing the SCG as the best stadium in Australia
Its a woeful AFL ground and an average cricket stadium. Not to mention the sluggish pitch and ordinary weather.
Adelaide oval is a far better cricket venue
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It's got two nice stands and the rest of it looks like it's come from the mind of a schizophrenic architect.listening to Okeefe and Haddin last night describing the SCG as the best stadium in Australia
Its a woeful AFL ground and an average cricket stadium. Not to mention the sluggish pitch and ordinary weather.
Adelaide oval is a far better cricket venue
Taufel's explanation on the decision the third umpire can make in a circumstance like that should satisfy anyone with a brain that's dealing in logic really.
29 years ago i made a fortuitous decision to return back to Sin City early to go this game - greatest finish to a game I have ever seen and one of the best innings I’ve seen
Decent folk far outweigh others, in all walks of life.
The point is that it is, or it should be a collaborative decision, based on a trust relationship built up over time.
He's an experienced athlete, who knows his body. He would also have seen the dangers of ignoring advice before, it's a lesson hard-earned.
And only after the fact, can the decision be judged.
I personally think that you don't go into such an important match with a player carrying an injury.
Apologies, it was an inaccurate statement, as pointed out a few posts after.
Jaiswal was not out LBW. The rules stated that if more than half the ball is missing the wicket and the officiating umpire says not out, the field decision will remain, however the fielding team will retain the review.
That is the agreed upon rules prior to series. So not out, accept the decision.
Jaiswal was out caught behind. When the appeal was reviewed, the 3rd Umpire said he could see a clear deflection off the glove, but wanted to confirm with one of the tools, snicko, it showed nothing however as Simon Taufell pointed out, their is a hierarchy of redundancy and if the umpire visually can tell a deflection, then the other tools by definition are redundant. He went on to show the ball in contact with the thumb so the on field decision was overturned. These conditions are known and agreed upon before the series.
Jaiswal confirmed to Head he hit it, his skipper confirmed he hit it.
So accepting the umpires decision which is in the ICC Laws of the game preamble of 'Spirit of Cricket'....
LBW not out
Caught behind out.
Accept the decision and move on.
Notice nobody from either squads, players, coaches, media people have mentioned either reviews in any controversial manner, it has only been senile old bitter players and SM incels.
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I recall Mark Butcher talking about a discussion he had with his father, where he was recalling the circumstances of the Bairstow dismissal to Butcher Sr (or it may have been vice versa) and the reply was "So (shrugs shoulders), out?"
Was refreshing to hear and especially so because I'm absolutely certain that would be my response if it had been an Australian batter making that brainfart. Just as I'm certain we'd have the usual suspects crying blue murder if it had been an Australian batter in Jaiswal's position and the not out verdict to an Indian appeal had been upheld following their review, because there was nothing on Snicko. I'm not as fanatically partisan as others. The Australian players aren't my children. It's just a game.
lol, was not happy to be corrected on at all.
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Say what you like about our city, but I won't accept criticism of our water. It's fine, as long as you chew it properly.
Yeah, correct attitude. I just can't help trolling crying pommies and Indians. A major failing in my character I suppose.
When we get 'controversial' decisions and we lose, I stay silent and hide from SM like the beta I truly am.
I just love how some play victim. Kumble saying 'only one team.is playing cricket' in 2008 hiding the fact they lost 3 wickets in the last two overs to Clark to lose. Easier to blame 'unsporting Aussies' than look at their own fragility in character to hold out for two overs.
This test Jaiswal drops three catches that were hugely costly, allowing a 60 run 10 wicket partnership, Pant and his stupid ego shots, etc etc.
But what do they settle on? A correct caught behind decision, once again hiding the glaring deficiencies.
It is good, as long as they keep doing that, they will never improve their issues.
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Pretty sure the captain made his thoughts on the dropped catches clear mate.
While he himself needs to either make runs or step down, he came out after the game and said in black and white that Australia outplayed them and that they missed their chances when they did come their way. So if no one else their captain acknowledged it.
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I heard Sanjay Manjreker saying with all sincerity that it was due to the “inexperience of the third umpire” and a more experienced third umpire would have said not out. Like Simon Taufel who said it was 100% out.
Previous posted said nobody from either camp have said either the LBW or caught behind decision was controversial. Sharma said it was out, don't think Cummins wasn't asked about the LBW I don't think.
Both camps have behaved totally appropriately, it is only bitter ex players and some fat official from the BCCI and beta simps on SM.
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Cricket is gaining in popularity worldwide, the introduction of shorter forms of the game is a contributing factor. This is good for the game. However, as in life, with every upside there usually comes a downside. We are seeing a lot more people talking cricket now who, although they love the game, lack basic understanding of the game and appreciation for the rules.
As you say, genuine cricket people (those who have spent their entire lives learning the game) know that the Jaiswal dismissal was correct, and had the shoe been on the other foot, would've accepted it.
The problem begins when we see people trying to create headlines with "controversial" comments, even though no controversy exists. I've just finished reading an article on Facebook from some Indian chap purporting to be a journalist who knows cricket. He was obviously catering to an Indian audience, going through the mechanics of Jaiswal and Akash's dismissal, offering "evidence" they weren't out. Pulpable nonsense of course.
He then went the extra mile that Australia was aided by BAD umpiring, then it became absurd when he suggested Australia could not defeat India without cheating. This is where I get upset with Indians. An umpiring decision is made, the Australians use the referral system to challenge in accordance with the rules of the game. It is then left to the third umpire to make a decision. I'm mystified as to how this makes Australians cheats.
To suggest the reason India lost that Test was umpiring shows a complete lack of understanding of the rules and the game in general.
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Lol, no it's not.listening to Okeefe and Haddin last night describing the SCG as the best stadium in Australia
Its a woeful AFL ground and an average cricket stadium. Not to mention the sluggish pitch and ordinary weather.
Adelaide oval is a far better cricket venue
I think maybe you are a little like myself. I've followed the game a long time, I used to put all this crap behind me, but I have grown awfully tired of Poms and Indians coming to Australia and playing the same old song about Australians being cheats, etc, and gaining sympathy from the media, so now I fight back
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