Rumour Bluemour Discussion XXXVII - A return to normalcy

[FlowersByIrene]

Alex Witherden would be another nice option to look at. I'm a bit surprised that West Coast delisted him. He has played 53 games in the last three years in the backlines of a bad team. He has only just turned 26.

He is about a tenth of the player Newman is. Same ability to get the ball but can't kick and can't defend.

 

[swuzzlebubble]

He is about a tenth of the player Newman is. Same ability to get the ball but can't kick and can't defend.

And sounds like he was voted off the island at BL.

 

[Beyond Blue]

Also from your unattributed source that you've tried to quote our of context:

Scouting notes: NAB League Boys - Round 1

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Scouting notes: NAB League Boys - Round 2

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Scouting notes: NAB League Boys - Round 3

ANOTHER blockbuster weekend of NAB League footy saw the best of the best stake their claims as the next big things, with one particular game showcasing some enormous talent to come. With scouts eyeing all nine games across the round, these are our individual, opinion-based thoughts on the...

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As you can see, he split time between midfield and forward in what little NAB League he played in 2019, averaging just shy of 5 clearances a game.

Scouting notes: Under 18 Australian side

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At the Champs, his first two games were in defence due to coaching fears around their defensive stocks, but he dominated the games, stringing up intercepts and bolting out of defence with the ball.

Here's game 3:

Scouting notes: AFL U18 Championships – Vic Country vs. South Australia

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27 disposals, 5 clearances, and a game winning goal.

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So arguably the top key position prospect coming into the year went to work on his endurance base and forced his way into the midfield, then did it again at the highest level.


In summary: you have this wrong, though that should have been obvious given what you quoted.

IMO Under 18 draft scouting reports are useful until the players start playing league footy and then they are largely redundant as it’s very difficult translating junior abilities successfully to senior footy.

Whilst it’s possible he could become a good midfielder, Kemp would need a significant step change in all aspects of his game to do so. I’d put the chances of that happening at 25-30% probability.

 

[WalshYouLegend]

Any juicy rumours from ITKs about whether we are going to split our pick 3 or keep it and who we are going to select with it?

Hungry

 

[Jimmae]

IMO Under 18 draft scouting reports are useful until the players start playing league footy and then they are largely redundant as it’s very difficult translating junior abilities successfully to senior footy.

Whilst it’s possible he could become a good midfielder, Kemp would need a significant step change in all aspects of his game to do so. I’d put the chances of that happening at 25-30% probability.

Name literally anything you're referring to, please.

 

[C4[2]Yo`DooR]

Any juicy rumours from ITKs about whether we are going to split our pick 3 or keep it and who we are going to select with it?

Hungry

Keeping it. We have our target.

 

[CCurnow3votes]

Keeping it. We have our target.

Aaaannnnnnndddd……..??????

 

[C4[2]Yo`DooR]

Aaaannnnnnndddd……..??????

We’re going to be passing at this selection

 

[GT619]

Any juicy rumours from ITKs about whether we are going to split our pick 3 or keep it and who we are going to select with it?

Hungry

plenty of time for that. be patient. do something else

 

[Jimmae]

Keeping it. We have our target.

And if the target goes early, will we trade down with Richmond or the Saints using 3 & 38?

 

[C4[2]Yo`DooR]

And if the target goes early, will we trade down with Richmond or the Saints using 3 & 38?

I’m not sure what the contingency plan is.

 

[marcmurphy3]

I’m not sure what the contingency plan is.

What's the level of confidence we get him at 3?

 

[BlueTongue]

What's the level of confidence we get him at 3?

1 in 3

 

[Beyond Blue]

Name literally anything you're referring to, please.

I’m really not sure how to respond to that but I’ll give it a go.

IMO Kemp doesn’t have any AFL quality midfield qualities which isn’t really surprising given he hasn’t played or trained as a midfielder in the 5 years he has been on an AFL list. To say that Kemp does based on a rookie scouting report >6 years ago is generous.

 

[mrkyuss]

Had burst speed as a Jnr. That’s an afl mid trait

 

[Blue and Silver]

Kemp will be best used as an intercept defender given license to run and gun.

Or to put it another way McGovern's role.

Yes he looks bad playing as our second key defender. He doesn't have the aptitude for a key defensive post

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[zeeCFC]

Whatever Kemp is, he needs to improve at it. He did well in games the midfield dominated but was shakey when under pressure and ultimately only played in his non preferred role due to injuries by the end of the year. We would be better served trying to get Lewis Young

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up to scratch

 

[DollarsandSense]

We’re going to be passing at this selection

Does it start with Dr and ends in aper?

 

[ctwenty1]

I’m not sure what the contingency plan is.

You mean we don’t have a Plan B?

 

[Jimmae]

I’m really not sure how to respond to that but I’ll give it a go.

IMO Kemp doesn’t have any AFL quality midfield qualities which isn’t really surprising given he hasn’t played or trained as a midfielder in the 5 years he has been on an AFL list. To say that Kemp does based on a rookie scouting report >6 years ago is generous.

He has clean, fast hands, he has burst from congestion, agility, keeps the ball ticking over and pretty good vision for a long pass by foot.

You're just so used to watching him track in a defensive zone or forcing a pack up forward you've forgotten what he looks like when he gets to dictate his own movement, but you're doing so with an enormous amount of bias:



I dunno how you're not seeing it. Again, I ask you to name a specific thing you feel he can't do in a hypothetical midfield role that he's not already been doing in a variety of defensive roles.

It all comes down to his ability to apply tactics and read the tap to help his team get an effective clearance, something we haven't really done outside of dominant taps/unblocked runs or TDK breaking open the play, so it's not like the bar can be any lower.

 

[djw1952]

Kemp will be best used as an intercept defender given license to run and gun.

Or to put it another way McGovern's role.

Yes he looks bad playing as our second key defender. He doesn't have the aptitude for a key defensive post

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Agree with what you say about him being able to run freely as he has got the speed for that, but I feel that his skill set is better suited in the middle of the ground and into the forward line, as he is a bit of a chaos player in that he likes to just take off and roost the ball into attack and even though he may not hit targets up forward like we want it`s better than turning the ball over in the backline and paying for it with goals like has happened to him on a few occasions. Still can see him as an onballer, because he is built to physically hold his own in the middle and has that special ingredient that the club really does desire..........pace!!!

 

[El Topo]

If Kemp can work on his tank without losing that burst speed he could have a pathway as Blacres successor on the wing - more likely however that he'll be off the list this time next year tbh

 

[RPCB]

I am quite positive that Nick Austin didn’t trade up for Pick 3, only to trade down for something like 6 and 18 (I have seen that suggested on here)…which will give Nick Austin a worse draft pick than when he had both Pick 12 and 14. It would be crazy if Nick did trade 3.

 

[CCurnow3votes]

We’re going to be passing at this selection

 

[gbatman]

Kemp has midfield qualities. Particularly for a wing position.

1. Speed.
2. Endurance
3. Reads the play well.
4. Good overhead and at ground level.
5. Would be ideally suited to that defensive wing role where he drops back into the hole inside D50.
6. Kemp's best footy is any game where he has had the freedom to be able to play a little loser and play off his man. Particularly where he has played off half back and been able to push up into the midfield.

Personally I think he is going to excel as a third tall forward. The modern third tall forward is not a ruckman sized player like we used to see 10 or 15 years ago. It's not DeKoning. It's more your Jack Gunston

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type/size player. It has to be someone with good pace and a ground level game so they can impact on the ground and in the air but also have the running capacity to apply pressure, close in quick on a lose ball and chase the half backs when they go.

Kemp has already shown that he can mark the ball as a forward, kick straight but also chase down and tackle opposition and win the ground ball. He is exactly what we need up forward. The biggest issue of our forward line being the lack of strong overhead players. Kemp and Moir coming in will really improve our forward efficiency and ball movement.

I think Kemp could be a really good winger for us but I think he will be very valuable to us as a forward.