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How did the MC work out last year? No idea, land of the giants at all costs, underdone players, shit ganeplan.
So they may think they have credits in the bank, but we know better.
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So they may think they have credits in the bank, but we know better.
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and you would have been wrong.
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How so?
“Whether it's cricket, Soccer or or whatever, you still pick the best player.”
I guess it depends on whether you just want to - at best - make up the numbers in the final eight in 2022. Or have a red hot crack at 2023.
If you think prefer the latter then rewarding form and giving any players returning from injury an extra week or a run in the WAFL is the way to go.
PS: does anyone truly believe we can even make the GF, let alone win it? Are we really better than say Melbourne?
I guess it depends on whether you just want to - at best - make up the numbers in the final eight in 2022. Or have a red hot crack at 2023.
If you think prefer the latter then rewarding form and giving any players returning from injury an extra week or a run in the WAFL is the way to go.
PS: does anyone truly believe we can even make the GF, let alone win it? Are we really better than say Melbourne?
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Had a good well rounded two way game last week. Very important to the structure and how it allows the other mids to play. XON hasn’t shown he can play the role Redden does. I like XON, he had a good attacking game last week and I want him in the side but Redden shouldn’t be the one in the gun.
Redden is a great role player, does a lot of work around stoppages & off the ball that allows other mids to get into the game.
If you just look at it in isolation, e.g., Yeo in and O'Neill out, that's fine. Even if you take into account O'Neill's form (which, to be honest, aside from the one solid game last week hasn't been crash hot. He was dropped 2 weeks ago against Freo; even amongst a huge amount of HS protocols he couldn't retain his spot).
The worst part for me is that we have Yeo/Shuey/TK all coming back at once. Should've held the least likely (Yeo?) back a week and given O'Neill another run.
The worst part for me is that we have Yeo/Shuey/TK all coming back at once. Should've held the least likely (Yeo?) back a week and given O'Neill another run.
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If XON gets named as sub and comes on in the fourth for whoever of the returning quartet is most gassed (who can come off with ‘hamstring awareness’ or some other bullshit excuse that let’s them play the following week) that could be a win all round.
Believe he has put in a fair running load coming back from the peck injury. If it was a leg injurry and he hadnt done the running he'd be playing WAFL for sure.
Right now Cripps just might be our fittest running player. Shuey, Kelly and Yeo all coming back from hammies or calf injuries.
Thats how Im interpretting the selection. Not credits in the bank.
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I’m no O’Neill hater but let’s be real, his career best game is probably still not as good as a 6/10 Kelly, Yeo or Shuey performance. We need to pick the best side to win it.
I need to see ‘effort’ and ‘intensity’ this arvo.
The three returning soldiers are a class above those omitted but for intensity the young ones seemingly have the old timers covered.
Mind you no Gaff and Sheed this arvo may really reveal who lacks intensity at the coalface.
If intensity is there then you’d have to admit MC got it right, if not……….the melts.
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No different to clark who got injured at the same time but doesnt have the credits.
I think that’s where will be fine. I mean it’s Yeo and Shuey. When are they ever not full bore on the field
TK plays (on appearances) in a more “relaxed” manner, but I don’t have real concerns with him, I think he will be raring to go.
The melts to be would be warranted if we were bringing in the likes of Gaff and Sheed. I understand that in that case. Both of those guys have been trading on the $credits$ for a long time. But for the three key mids coming in, nah.
Cripps is the concern I have, I would have preferred him have a stint in the WAFL.
But hopefully he being in helps free up Ryan and Rioli a bit more. Now that is exciting
A “run in the magoos” is more about getting the feel of a game and the physicality of the contest. No drama about Cripps having the leg capacity.
When brought in without WAFL games to get up to speed, Cripps stinks. Proven 3 years in a row.
If the argument is that Cripps supports Darling and structure, then they will do well together today as Jack is also underdone and lacking game sense and touch.
With 3 mids returning at once, logic would say err on the side of covering them especially when all three can go forward if needed.
This is spot on.
Yes we need development into our future but it feels like Simmo is not writing off this season yet.
Throw everything at this game to win and get some season momentum.
If this was round 10 or so and the season was bust, I don't think all the stars would return at once and XON would be picked with an eye to the future.
Play the best team and keep the season alive whilst we can.
If it doesn't work then bring in more kids.
Yes we need development into our future but it feels like Simmo is not writing off this season yet.
Throw everything at this game to win and get some season momentum.
If this was round 10 or so and the season was bust, I don't think all the stars would return at once and XON would be picked with an eye to the future.
Play the best team and keep the season alive whilst we can.
If it doesn't work then bring in more kids.
Your joking right
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Whilst I personally find it hard to digest anything poor written about Nic or previous year about Gov. I'm loving the passion.
One thing for sure is that without these two guys it will be a massive challenge for others. But I believe we have seen good positives arise from adversity. Been fun watching Naish (first couple of games I thought yeah...nay), Dixon and Jones.
I really enjoyed watching L Edwards and West last week and I think that those two going forward will be big players for WCE.
Hough out for Rotham for me is an insurance move for H Edwards.
Waterman is a tough one for me as I feel Crippa should of had a WAFL game simply because of the amount of rotations. I think that Waterman is at the crossroads..he now needs to dominate at WAFL.
Assuming West was injured as I personally think we need he speed and courage and L Edwards then the only other talking point is Xon. And whilst I agree that after his last game - which I thought was good, just good.
For me it's not so much bringing in 3 guys underdone as in lasts years effort. Shuey has played as has Tim. Yeo is fresh but played a WAFL game...so maybe Jackson or Langdon to play Xon. But both those players have strengths Xon doesn't have. I like the idea of rewarding good play but he's been in the system a fair time and I haven't seen him dominate WAFL. Hopefully he starts to do that otherwise other players will pass him by quickly
Whilst I personally find it hard to digest anything poor written about Nic or previous year about Gov. I'm loving the passion.
One thing for sure is that without these two guys it will be a massive challenge for others. But I believe we have seen good positives arise from adversity. Been fun watching Naish (first couple of games I thought yeah...nay), Dixon and Jones.
I really enjoyed watching L Edwards and West last week and I think that those two going forward will be big players for WCE.
Hough out for Rotham for me is an insurance move for H Edwards.
Waterman is a tough one for me as I feel Crippa should of had a WAFL game simply because of the amount of rotations. I think that Waterman is at the crossroads..he now needs to dominate at WAFL.
Assuming West was injured as I personally think we need he speed and courage and L Edwards then the only other talking point is Xon. And whilst I agree that after his last game - which I thought was good, just good.
For me it's not so much bringing in 3 guys underdone as in lasts years effort. Shuey has played as has Tim. Yeo is fresh but played a WAFL game...so maybe Jackson or Langdon to play Xon. But both those players have strengths Xon doesn't have. I like the idea of rewarding good play but he's been in the system a fair time and I haven't seen him dominate WAFL. Hopefully he starts to do that otherwise other players will pass him by quickly
My honest opinion is that there are a group on here who are “done” with Simmo and want him gone. Anything and everything he does is now critiqued within an inch of its life and they remain waiting for any slip ups. They want us to fail so they can be proven right. I mean I could go and find all the posts pre season denigrating O’Neill. But now he is so hard done by and should be in the team ahead of our A Graders. McGovern was written off completely, referred to repeatedly as a fat slob, fatso etc. Naitanui is talked about in similar terms. There is a very nasty element to our supporter base
I view Simmo as a good coach but not great. He had done well in getting us to the big dance twice and winning it once.
He is demonstrating 3 “Club” flaws in his coaching as it appears from the outside.
1. He was the leader of the “sooking it up in Covid “. He was obviously not mature enough to cope with the adversity 2020 delivered and failed the team as they followed the “Big Sook Club” he founded. Glad he has learnt from it and in 2022 he looks a better leader
2. The seems to be a set of favourites (aka the BBQ Club) that waltz into the team and stay in it regardless. This is also known as the Credits in the Bank Club. It looks like it is really hard for developing players to get a run of it (Oscar aside) when they are in and out of the team playing out of position
3. He seems to prefer the soft flavours (Friends Family Flags) and avoids the Accountability Club. When Mitchell chucked the water bottle, Simmo was there to put his arms around them. OK to be the softer leader but there needs to be a balance. The other Accountability Club that I miss is that I have no idea of his non-negotiable. They are not evident from the outside and when the same crap is served up by some players each week, I question what Simmo stands for, or won’t tolerate.
So hoping to see Simmo mature this year and take his coaching to another level. I am not a sack Simmo supporter - I do question who he is accountable to in so far as reporting lines in the club. I sense it is straight to Trev.
He is demonstrating 3 “Club” flaws in his coaching as it appears from the outside.
1. He was the leader of the “sooking it up in Covid “. He was obviously not mature enough to cope with the adversity 2020 delivered and failed the team as they followed the “Big Sook Club” he founded. Glad he has learnt from it and in 2022 he looks a better leader
2. The seems to be a set of favourites (aka the BBQ Club) that waltz into the team and stay in it regardless. This is also known as the Credits in the Bank Club. It looks like it is really hard for developing players to get a run of it (Oscar aside) when they are in and out of the team playing out of position
3. He seems to prefer the soft flavours (Friends Family Flags) and avoids the Accountability Club. When Mitchell chucked the water bottle, Simmo was there to put his arms around them. OK to be the softer leader but there needs to be a balance. The other Accountability Club that I miss is that I have no idea of his non-negotiable. They are not evident from the outside and when the same crap is served up by some players each week, I question what Simmo stands for, or won’t tolerate.
So hoping to see Simmo mature this year and take his coaching to another level. I am not a sack Simmo supporter - I do question who he is accountable to in so far as reporting lines in the club. I sense it is straight to Trev.
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