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Preview Changes: R3 vs Gold Coast
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I posted somewhere during pre-season that this is the year that we'll have our 1st loss against GC. We already did of course in the scratch match (which I didn't really count) but now I'm sure my prediction will come true.
How far we have fallen.
How far we have fallen.
Golumless
A bigger deal out west.
Our par is bottom 2 this season. Not mid-table. We are now going through what Melbourne, Carlton, Gold Coast, Brisbane etc have gone through the last decade. A team looking for moments that the method is working whilst we hit the hard reset button, not a functional team. We may have taken a different path to rock bottom, and on paper, we should be nowhere near it, but we are here. The price of recruiting people like Burton in key roles.
Our game against Sydney compared to Port were night and day in terms of difference, outside of our midfield getting smashed. First-quarter was some of the best football we've played in the last year in particular.
I wouldn't even call it clutching at straws.
That's all we're going to get this season. Periods where we can see the system we want to implement, and when the quality drops in opponents, we might hold on to 2-3 wins with a bit of luck (there are about 7 teams I reckon aren't too far off of where we are quality-wise). It's really just about pumping games into kids, finding people we can build around and working out who has been broken from the last couple of years.
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Surely Jones gets a decent run on the ball this week?
I mean he looked comfortable in that role in the last quarter vs Collingwood and against the Bulldogs late last year. Since then he's bulked up and cleaned up in all the time trials. It's not like our other mids are earning their keep anyway.
If he starts in the forward line again, I'm switching the game off.
I mean he looked comfortable in that role in the last quarter vs Collingwood and against the Bulldogs late last year. Since then he's bulked up and cleaned up in all the time trials. It's not like our other mids are earning their keep anyway.
If he starts in the forward line again, I'm switching the game off.
He was also second to Doedee in intercept marks the year he was drafted. Natural defender.
- Jun 23, 2016
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Very half arsed Crows style rebuild at the moment.
A close second.
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From half time in last year’s Showdown our game plan has been confused and confusing (I choose to ignore the 95 point win over Golden Tankers).
I have been only able to see one live match this year (trial against GC) plus the under 23s against Poort and I believe it is impossible to pick up the full game plan on the box. Nevertheless, it is difficult to see what we are aiming to do. The only consistency across all four games is we are being totally rogered in the centre clearances.
It is hard to understand why our midfield has been so bad, our midfield isn’t great but it shouldn’t be bottom of the league. We seem to have resurrected our Thommo/Danger/Sloane see ball get ball centre clearance strategy. Our wingmen seem to be less defensive but they are constantly in no man’s land.
I pity our forwards since it is hard to live off 30 inside 50s when most of them are bombs to a two-on-one.
Well before the season started I predicted we would be bottom four with a genuine chance of getting pick one but that doesn’t mean we play without any passion.
Couldn't agree more the writing was on the wall after 2018, experienced players had trade value but were kept and too top things off the most exciting young talent to come out of SA for a while was there to be traded up too. But if your lukoscious or Rankine why would you go back, gold coast look closer to playing finals then the crows
Look at port they replenished in that draft gettingduursma, rozee and butters have invigorated the club, it's exciting, add in Marshall Powell pepper there future looks Rosey.
We're port less experienced than the crowd on the weekend.
Galluci where is he? He has pace and shown glimpses in the past,
Round 1 was ok, last week was insipid,
Sloane
Crouch x2
O'Brien
Talia
Milera
Jones
Fogarty
Are the only players that should be pencilled in for the remainder of the year
Atkins
McKay
Gibbs
Shouldn't play again
Laird
Smith
Lynch
Trade bait
Look at port they replenished in that draft gettingduursma, rozee and butters have invigorated the club, it's exciting, add in Marshall Powell pepper there future looks Rosey.
We're port less experienced than the crowd on the weekend.
Galluci where is he? He has pace and shown glimpses in the past,
Round 1 was ok, last week was insipid,
Sloane
Crouch x2
O'Brien
Talia
Milera
Jones
Fogarty
Are the only players that should be pencilled in for the remainder of the year
Atkins
McKay
Gibbs
Shouldn't play again
Laird
Smith
Lynch
Trade bait
Yeah it feels like they want to commit to the rebuild but they are afraid to do it. Lets face it, the club is in unprecedented position and I am certain they feel like the members wont accept a bottom 2 position. So as of now the senior players seem to be getting golden tickets and given opportunities to rebound
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More blow-ins providing list advice. Going to be a fun year
Golumless
A bigger deal out west.
Nope. Port had daylight on us in that facet (like nearly every other) Ports average age was 26.6 with 116.6 games of experience. Ours was 25.1 year with 85.9 games.
Still, I can't argue with most of that. Seems rather reasonable, though I'd have B.Crouch as trade/FA bait. I'm an open critic of our midfielders though.
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If the power are going to win the flag it must be this year. Blight went through it last night on the radio(that guy seriously knows his stuff and should be on our board btw). Most premiership teams are around 115 to 120 games of experience on average. After this year their team will dip with 9 players 29 plus hitting a tipping point decline. I don't feel they are a genuine chance this year but this is there small window. Btw the 97 crows were an exception to the rule with 75 games experience on average. Shows you what a great performance that was.
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No he's not, not even close.
Golumless
A bigger deal out west.
It most likely it a one year left window. Maybe 2 depending on who is important.
Lose Ollie and that inside group is a pretty old one + PP and Rozee.
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I'm an open critic of our midfield coaches and set ups.
Golumless
A bigger deal out west.
Reasonable. Godden seems to be an absolute dud with the step up.
I agree with others, can't have both Crouch brothers in there at the same time.
Would even suggest Brad and Rory shouldn't be in at the same time either unless one of them is the designated inside mid.
But what we're lacking in both setups above is silk and speed. We need that outside mid with pace and carry desperately.
The big problem is our so called top players have got away with just building possession numbers ,rather than actually creating some run, penetration or system along with the biggest problem they have made no effort to create any type of defence pressure of any description.
Now our rookie senior coach has to get these top very well paid senior players to do these very essential team actions with the help of the most ordinary inexperienced assistant coaches who without doubt one of if not the weakest group in the last 20 or so years.
Nicks in his presser after game acknowledge that he was appalled at the lack of effort in the off ball pressure to prevent their run and spread so he must back that up with dropping of at least 2 of the worst culprits Atkins. B Crouch , m Crouch , Seedsman , Smith , Milera .
Now our rookie senior coach has to get these top very well paid senior players to do these very essential team actions with the help of the most ordinary inexperienced assistant coaches who without doubt one of if not the weakest group in the last 20 or so years.
Nicks in his presser after game acknowledge that he was appalled at the lack of effort in the off ball pressure to prevent their run and spread so he must back that up with dropping of at least 2 of the worst culprits Atkins. B Crouch , m Crouch , Seedsman , Smith , Milera .
Can you tell me someone who does provide better output? I’m struggling to think of someone who impacts a game for longer than 5 minutes atm
Nar he stops a lot of intercept marks by throwing himself into aerial contests. Maybe I’m a fan because in a team full of players who genuinely lack heart and appear soft in the contest, he does not
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It worries me when a few posters like yourself, seem to know more and better about our list and its players than the campaigners managing at West Lakes.
FFS.
Its like the Crows BF Board need to have a voice at the Club. Im serious, not the kiss the arse of Fagan type of meetings for the majority of it, I mean to seriously question WTF is going on and what is being done about it, daily, weekly, monthly, yearly. How can a Club produce such a spineless performance over the weekend? Probably extend that too post Prelim 2017 onwards to be fair.
I agree. Its just going to be a strange approach for me for the next 5 years following the Crows. I have gone into almost every season thinking finals is a realistic possibility and sometimes during a season I start looking at flying to Melbourne in September.
You can forget that for at least 5 years. I think our next flag will be in the 2030s truth be told. Sobering thought is that a lot of Crows supporters from 97 and 98 probably wont be alive to see it.
Fortunately I punt on the AFL so in some ways I can still enjoy the AFL to some extent. I cannot recall being ever so disinterested in a Crows game, esp a Showdown during an AFL season, how that changes post pandemic is going to be interesting.
With its list management, recruiting and trading, the Club really needs to be innovative here and trying something from left field to get ahead and compete for a flag sooner than later.
Glory be also within the rules too.
Yes it’s definitely tested my interest. I’m not a fair weather fan, I think you switch off a bit when you think maybe we don’t have the capacity to be as innovative as we need to be.
I’m reminded of an Irish comedian (can’t remember who) who said he was staying at an Irish hotel and asked how to get to a destination and was told “Oh you can’t get there from here...you have to go to so-and-so first..”
That’s how I feel. I’m not sure we can get there from here. We need this group to get us to the place where we can get to the place where maybe we can get where we’re going.
Welp, there’s always beer
Indeed. A great feeling to be at the GF for the win. So many happy people. Ran into several ex-players who were all so happy too.
It’ll keep me warm during the long dark winters which I fear are coming for the Crows.
