Preview Changes: R3 vs Fremantle

[George Kramer]

Isn't this basically the same side that Gold Coast flogged the living s**t out of for 3 quarters?

Yes but that was mental and we are no longer mental

 

[Rank]

Have we? He’s still been pretty rubbish. Just has a lot more mates now.

Milera is clearly one of our best distributers with ball in hand. Mostly good last year after the melts wanted him gone.

 

[El Doederino]

No one rates Tom Mitchell?

Guy who was 4th in a premiership sides best and fairest just 6 months ago?

Who Hawthorn traded out for Cooper Stephens (yet to play for Hawthorn) and picks 41 & 50 (neither used)

 

[El Doederino]

Milera is clearly one of our best distributers with ball in hand. Mostly good last year after the melts wanted him gone.

He really isn't. Just because the commentators say it, doesn't make it so.

 

[GreyCrow]

Milera is clearly one of our best distributers with ball in hand. Mostly good last year after the melts wanted him gone.

After 3 games ( he missed round 2) he was averaging 14 disposals pg - after 7 games it moved to 15

It was after that he started to be more effective - this was related to Smith moving to a wing

From memory Wayne was very fumbly and his disposals were hit and miss

 

[FR0GGY]

Milera is clearly one of our best distributers with ball in hand. Mostly good last year after the melts wanted him gone.

One thing I haven’t see him do is fend off an evade, he was doing it a heap last year, reckon I saw it once against Geelong.

 

[1970crow]

I watched the game last night and thought the Lions were doing a similar thing to us in the middle. They were often winning the initial clearance, but then losing possession.

If we can’t get Dawson back into form, hitting targets, hurting in the middle … if we don’t use Peds and Soligo and Rachele and Rankine to shake up the midfield … then I can see us winning the clearances and still getting done easily.

If we don’t at least start trying to hit the leading forwards … our scoring will continue to be abysmal, our scoreboard pressure non existent, our hopes of growing into a dangerous team dashed again. Tex / Fog / Pedlar / Rankine / Rachele are no good in a pack marking situation … but a fast moving open space forward line with decent supply, that’s these guys Bread and butter.

I again am looking at our defenders - Max, Wayne, Brodie, Josh and Mitch are all naturally attacking players. I’d better see that shine through, not them swallowing down their instincts and embracing the fear of mistakes!!

Playing Laird and Crouch together is stupidity. Neither has any sense of when to get on bike and become a moving option that helps get the ball out of a stoppage in a dangerous manner. They're basically bystanders watching the other who has the ball and if they are used, it's a useless short handball receive whilst being stationary that requires a hack kick.

 

[1970crow]

Milera is clearly one of our best distributers with ball in hand. Mostly good last year after the melts wanted him gone.

Does very little damage, often trying to hit up short targets leading at him with an opponent on their hammer. Too many times the spoil is longer than the kick. But he's not the main problem at the moment, but he is unfortunately pure meh.

 

[robboaustralia]

He played rounds 19-22. He was omitted for the Sydney game.

That's not great then.

 

[Rank]

He really isn't. Just because the commentators say it, doesn't make it so.

He really is. Just because you say he's not doesn't mean he's not.

 

[Rank]

After 3 games ( he missed round 2) he was averaging 14 disposals pg - after 7 games it moved to 15

It was after that he started to be more effective - this was related to Smith moving to a wing

From memory Wayne was very fumbly and his disposals were hit and miss

Well lucky we never dropped him ay, He ended up having a good year

 

[Rank]

Does very little damage, often trying to hit up short targets leading at him with an opponent on their hammer. Too many times the spoil is longer than the kick. But he's not the main problem at the moment, but he is unfortunately pure meh.

Easily in our best 22

 

[GreyCrow]

Well lucky we never dropped him ay, He ended up having a good year

Great insight Nicksy. Don't drop anyone because they might come good.

 

[Rank]

Great insight Nicksy. Don't drop anyone because they might come good.

He was never bad last year to start with, Just some melts over reacting

 

[El Doederino]

He really is. Just because you say he's not doesn't mean he's not.

No but because he constantly turns it over and burns his opponents says he is

 

[Rank]

No but because he constantly turns it over and burns his opponents says he is

Nope wrong again, Usually very clean ball use

 

[AFC979810]

Who Hawthorn traded out for Cooper Stephens (yet to play for Hawthorn) and picks 41 & 50 (neither used)

Because Hawthorn are idiots.

'Are you serious?': GF star's explosive Hawks claim

'I knew they wanted me out'

wwos.nine.com.au

They are the same club that rated him as the worst player on the ground in round 1 and round 2. Despite getting Brownlow votes in both games.

Because Fremantle didnt rate McLeod and traded him to us for Chris Groom doesn't mean nobody rates Andrew McLeod.

 

[Scorpus]

Because Hawthorn are idiots.

'Are you serious?': GF star's explosive Hawks claim

'I knew they wanted me out'

wwos.nine.com.au

They are the same club that rated him as the worst player on the ground in round 1 and round 2. Despite getting Brownlow votes in both games.

Because Fremantle didnt rate McLeod and traded him to us for Chris Groom doesn't mean nobody rates Andrew McLeod.

Are they idiots though?

Yes they got nothing for him except removing his salary, but Mitchell is turning 31 this year and Hawthorn aren't close to finishing their rebuild.

He clearly wasn't going to be part of their next flag team so why bother keeping and playing him in a rebuild?

 

[El Doederino]

Because Hawthorn are idiots.

'Are you serious?': GF star's explosive Hawks claim

'I knew they wanted me out'

wwos.nine.com.au

They are the same club that rated him as the worst player on the ground in round 1 and round 2. Despite getting Brownlow votes in both games.

Because Fremantle didnt rate McLeod and traded him to us for Chris Groom doesn't mean nobody rates Andrew McLeod.

Mitchell won a Brownlow at Hawthorn

McLeod didn’t play a game for Freo

The 2 are in now way comparable.

 

[AFC979810]

Are they idiots though?

Yes they got nothing for him except removing his salary, but Mitchell is turning 31 this year and Hawthorn aren't close to finishing their rebuild.

He clearly wasn't going to be part of their next flag team so why bother keeping and playing him in a rebuild?

They are idiots.

They obviously rated him poorly (based on his admission) and yet still played him 21 of a possible 22 games in a season they had no chance of making the finals and then gave him away from nothing at the end of the season.

 

[AFC979810]

Mitchell won a Brownlow at Hawthorn

McLeod didn’t play a game for Freo

The 2 are in now way comparable.

And what does that have to do with "Nobody" rating Mitchell. Hawthorn gave him away for nothing - not because nobody rated him, but because they didnt rate him.

Collingwood obviously rated him pretty highly considering he played all 26 games for the premiership team and they voted him their 4th best player in 2023....

 

[Scorpus]

They are idiots.

They obviously rated him poorly (based on his admission) and yet still played him 21 of a possible 22 games in a season they had no chance of making the finals and then gave him away from nothing at the end of the season.

That doesn't sound unusual when Worpel and Wingard missed big chunks of the season

They were already giving plenty of games to Day, Newcombe, Macdonald, Ward, Nash etc. so when a couple of midfielders go down yeah it makes sense they would have to play him for most of the year

They obviously spent the year giving games to young players and identifying who to prioritize in the rebuild and with a couple of first round draft picks to add the following season they ditched Mitchell and O'Meara for nothing

 

[1970crow]

Easily in our best 22

Yep, and that’s why this ‘rebuild’ is doomed.

 

[CrowBloke]

I'm not even convinced we will beat North Melbourne.

Yeah, I thought same after the Cats rolled us and I looked ahead. The NM game in Hobart is not a certainty. We could be looking at 0-10 .

Gotta win today but I just can't see it .

 

[LoBu]

That's a terrible take

Call me old fashioned