Preview Changes - round 4 v Geelong

[The Falcon Strike]

Masten , Selwood and Gaff are facing injury tests and Lecras wont play . If those four all miss we nearly need a new midfield for Geelong , we might be in trouble .

We have depth enough to cover outs to each end of the ground and the rucks - we don't however for our midfield.

I think Wellingham and Selwood will play, hopefully Masto gets up.

Far more run is required. Our forward line is yet to function well enough where we can sperate and isolate defenders - given we can't do that - the likes of taylor and lonergan will bring the ball to ground for their runners to run riot.

 

[Chris_6678]

Out: Lecra, Sinclair, Schofield
In:Wellingham, Hill, Sheed.

Bennel Emac Glass
Yeo Brown Ellis

Rosa Pridda Gaff

Masten Darling Wellingham
Hill JK Cox

Ruck: Nic Nat, Scooter, Shuey

Bench: Sheed, Shep, College Sub: Cripps

 

[Eagle Ant]

Jeez a lot of people jumping on schoey's back but thought he played well out of position. He had 10 pos, 5 pressure acts and 6 score involvements.???
IMHO
Outs: Lecras, Colledge, Masten (inj) and Yeo (disposal was shit)
Ins: Hill- Lecras
Sheed- Masten
Hutchings - Colledge
Wellingham - Yeo
Start Schofield and have Sheed as sub.
FB: Bennell, EMac, Glass
HB: Schoey, Brown, Ellis
C: Rosa, Priddis, Gaff
HF: Hutchings, Kennedy, Darling
Ff: Hill, Sinclair, Cripps
Rr: Naitanui, Selwood, Shuey
Int: Sheppard, Wellingham, Cox
Sub: Sheed

Naita explodes early so he takes first 5min in the ruck then cox can out body them.
That's the way I would go.

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

Being reported that Masto will miss

On that basis:

Out: LeCras (inj), Masten (inj), Schofield, Sinclair
In: Hill, Wellingham, Hutchings, Sheed

B: Bennell, MacKenzie, Glass
HB: Ellis, Brown, Yeo
C: Rosa, Priddis, Gaff
HF: Wellingham, Darling, Cripps
F: Naitanui, Kennedy, Hill
R: Cox, Shuey, Selwood
I: Sheppard, Sheed, Hutchings
S: Colledge
E: Sinclair, Schofield, Butler

Hill for Lecca, Wellers for Masto straight swap

Hutch and Sheed in to provide more help in the guts. Sinclair out, so better hope Naita can run out the game.

 

[Dark Sharks]

Far more run is required. Our forward line is yet to function well enough where we can sperate and isolate defenders - given we can't do that - the likes of taylor and lonergan will bring the ball to ground for their runners to run riot.

Not gonna lie, in 2014 our forward line has functioned shit.

Check out 2011,2012 and even some of the less potato games in 2013 compared to this season where there seems to be no structure whatsoever. We aren't isolating any defenders one out, we aren't lacing out paces to JK or Darls (not really), and we generally just pump it long for our supposed "dangerous forward line" to all contest for the same ball together.

It's almost like we have either too much talent or too much height down there. I'd rather we just waited for a JK lead and then laced him out. Or if he's not leading then put it to his advantage and let him contest one out. HE is our FF.

Better then just bombing it and Sinclair and whoever else is down their spoiling our own forwards or dragging his man to JK's contest.

Obviously Gwilt didn't hail to the King...

 

[Dark Sharks]

Jeez a lot of people jumping on schoey's back but thought he played well out of position. He had 10 pos, 5 pressure acts and 6 score involvements.???
IMHO
Outs: Lecras, Colledge, Masten (inj) and Yeo (disposal was shit)
Ins: Hill- Lecras
Sheed- Masten
Hutchings - Colledge
Wellingham - Yeo
Start Schofield and have Sheed as sub.
FB: Bennell, EMac, Glass
HB: Schoey, Brown, Ellis
C: Rosa, Priddis, Gaff
HF: Hutchings, Kennedy, Darling
Ff: Hill, Sinclair, Cripps
Rr: Naitanui, Selwood, Shuey
Int: Sheppard, Wellingham, Cox
Sub: Sheed

Naita explodes early so he takes first 5min in the ruck then cox can out body them.
That's the way I would go.

Good one

 

[Empire_Persian]

Not gonna lie, in 2014 our forward line has functioned shit.

Check out 2011,2012 and even some of the less potato games in 2013 compared to this season where there seems to be no structure whatsoever. We aren't isolating any defenders one out, we aren't lacing out paces to JK or Darls (not really), and we generally just pump it long for our supposed "dangerous forward line" to all contest for the same ball together.

It's almost like we have either too much talent or too much height down there. I'd rather we just waited for a JK lead and then laced him out. Or if he's not leading then put it to his advantage and let him contest one out. HE is our FF.

Better then just bombing it and Sinclair and whoever else is down their spoiling our own forwards or dragging his man to JK's contest.

Obviously Gwilt didn't hail to the King...

I reckon our tall forward line encourages a complacent and careless approach to forward line entry, i.e. bombing it and expecting one of our tall forwards to mark it.

We need to isolate our forwards who are strong and can usually overpower defenders to take a mark.

Instead it's bombed into the forward line and every god damn forward, their respective defender, the loose man and and a bunch of midfielders, leap for the ball, requiring nothing short of the mark of the year or divine intervention for our forwards to take the ball.

It would be easy to blame the forwards for not leading and creating space, but I think it is more related to our midfield. Our ball movement around the ground is not clean or efficient (like passing the ball to stationary players) and this disrupts our flow and creates pressure. This ultimately leads to hurried kicks into the forward line, that are rarely advantageous to our goal kickers.

If we can become cleaner and more efficient in our ball movement, our forward line entry would improve significantly. The improvement has to come from both the players and the game plan itself.

 

[The Dodger]

Not gonna lie, in 2014 our forward line has functioned shit.

Check out 2011,2012 and even some of the less potato games in 2013 compared to this season where there seems to be no structure whatsoever. We aren't isolating any defenders one out, we aren't lacing out paces to JK or Darls (not really), and we generally just pump it long for our supposed "dangerous forward line" to all contest for the same ball together.

It's almost like we have either too much talent or too much height down there. I'd rather we just waited for a JK lead and then laced him out. Or if he's not leading then put it to his advantage and let him contest one out. HE is our FF.

Better then just bombing it and Sinclair and whoever else is down their spoiling our own forwards or dragging his man to JK's contest.

Obviously Gwilt didn't hail to the King...

Having the tall timber STILL without a genuine crumber or at least resting mids with goal nous is a crime. Lecras is the closest we have and he is not a crumbier but fits the goal nous and Hill is in the same mould just a downgrade on Lecca.
We scrap for the footy ok once it hits the deck in the forward line but without players with the attributes above getting a decent shot at goal from a congested ground ball is difficult.
I don't think there is a place in the game today for a genuine crumber overall but when you play 3 making targets who will fly at the same time for the same ball then there is.

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

I reckon our tall forward line encourages a complacent and careless approach to forward line entry, i.e. bombing it and expecting one of our tall forwards to mark it.

We need to isolate our forwards who are strong and can usually overpower defenders to take a mark.

Instead it's bombed into the forward line and every god damn forward, their respective defender, the loose man and and a bunch of midfielders, leap for the ball, requiring nothing short of the mark of the year or divine intervention for our forwards to take the ball.

It would be easy to blame the forwards for not leading and creating space, but I think it is more related to our midfield. Our ball movement around the ground is not clean or efficient (like passing the ball to stationary players) and this disrupts our flow and creates pressure. This ultimately leads to hurried kicks into the forward line, that are rarely advantageous to our goal kickers.

If we can become cleaner and more efficient in our ball movement, our forward line entry would improve significantly. The improvement has to come from both the players and the game plan itself.

Pretty much agree with this.

There was a couple of times when players hit Kennedy lace out on the lead. One was Shep, can't remember the other, but they stood out like dogs' proverbials because they were in such stark contrast to the vast majority of our forward entries.

 

[JEagle]

Need some more smalls. I say drop Sinclair and let NN contest the ruck for the first 5-8 mintues of every quarter when he is fresher and his expolosiveness at the throw ins and on the ground will be at it's peak then throw Cox in after that. Alot depends how Masto and Scooter pull up. I think Sheed should come in given his WAFL form and possibly Hutchings if he is ok. I also think Hill should come in for Lecras. He kicked three in the WAFL, and we know his pressure up forward is excellent. On top of that i think alot of the board underestimates his flexibily to go to the wing, allowing Rosa and Wellers more time on ball. Hill has a clean pair of hands and is an excellent mark of the football and he delivers the ball very well when he is in space. This makes him an obvious candidate to come into the side playing 70-80% up front and the rest of the time onto the wing.

Hurn is a an absolutely huge blow. He is the most effective kick in the league and it robs us of flexibility in moving him, Ellis and Yeo on ball. Butler may be a potential candidate to release Yeo (a big,aggressive, strong and fast body) into the middle, though i have no idea about his form and or fitness.

 

[Doughboy]

Not sold on Hill taking Leccas spot

Went to the East Perth game on Friday night and he did a few good things, but needs to lift to get to the standard require IMO

 

[Suma Magic]

A potential Cats side (In: Enright Out: Brown) versus a potential Eagles side:

FB: Rivers Lonergan Enright
FF: Naitanui Darling Cripps

HB: Mackie Taylor Kelly
HF: Wellingham Kennedy Hill

C: Duncan Caddy Varcoe
C: Rosa Priddis Gaff

HF: Johnson Blicavs Stokes
HB: Ellis Brown Yeo

FF: Murdoch Hawkins McIntosh
FB: Sheppard Mackenzie Glass

Foll: Simpson Selwood Bartel
Foll: Cox Selwood Shuey

Int: Horlin-Smith Guthrie Sheringham
Int: Bennell Sheed Hutchings

Sub: Burbury
Sub: Colledge

Key match ups likely to include:

Taylor v Kennedy
Hawkins v Mackenzie
Selwood v Selwood

 

[ChampRevesby]

Regardless of what team we have on the park, this will be a massive test and will give us a true indication where we are at as a team.
Personally I think we will be done by a massive total maybe 10 goals. We just are not hard enough at the ball and no where near where we need to be by foot.

 

[Eaglemaniac]

People wanting to drop Sinclair surprise me, as he seems to be the only one of our current rucks who are giving a good, consistant effort all game, both in the ruck and forward. He's been winning taps, harrassing the ball carrier, hitting up targets on the run, providing a good forward target, taking some great contested grabs and kicked a few goals, while Naitanui has done sweet FA. We all know Naitanui can be a million times better but right now he is way off, so if any of our talls are to be dropped for another runner, it should be Nic Nat. He needs to either get fit or get some form in the WAFL if thats the issue or get whatever his problem is sorted via medical attention as he is not impacting games enough at the moment and is costing us. Bring The Hutch in if he's fit, if not Sheed is demanding a return via WAFL and Hill could replace Le Cras. Any other changes would depend on who doesnt come up for this weekends game based on our injury list. Hopefully Wellers, Gaff, Scooter and co are fully fit by the weekend, otherwise, dont play them and risk further damage.

 

[Big Tones]

Outs: LeCras, Masten, Colledge
Ins: Wellingham, Hutch, Sheed

Hill might get up and drop Schoey but I think he'll get one more game to give him a fair go
Shuey and Scooter both playing sore but can't see either of them getting a break this week.

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

People wanting to drop Sinclair surprise me, as he seems to be the only one of our current rucks who are giving a good, consistant effort all game, both in the ruck and forward.

I don't think it's a reflection of Sinclair's performances, more a recognition that it would be unwise to take our overly tall structure into the Geelong game and in reality neither Cox nor Naitanui are going to be dropped. They may be 'rested' but that would seem to be counterproductive in Naita's case as his biggest issue is fitness. Personally I'd be tempted to rest Cox for this game as that would mean he breaks Jako's record at Subiaco rather than in Geelong, but that's pretty unlikely.

 

[Dark Sharks]

Wonder how Simmo feels about getting to coach Nic Naitanui of all people, only to see just how average he's been.

#kickinthenuts

 

[bluengold89]

Only way we win this is by taking the game on. We've been overusing the ball and hand balling too much. The number of times big slow players like cox/sinclair were used by hand as link up players during the Saints game was ridiculous. They're obviously very agile and talented for their size, but they shouldn't be relied on to move the ball quickly through the middle of the ground.

Need to see our mids and half backs transferring the ball quickly through the middle of the ground, or the Cats will pounce on all the mistakes we make moving it around slowly. We've been lucky none of the Bullies/Saints/Dees are good enough to punish us for this, but the Cats won't let us get away with it.

With that in mind:

In: Hutchings(fitness)/Sheed, Wellingham, Butler (if he can actually play midfield) or Hill
Out: Sinclair, Schofield, Lecras

Already starting to scrape the bottom of the barrel of our depth for mids/small forwards, will be scary if any of masto/shep/selwood miss.

 

[erbenz]

Outs: LeCras, Masten, Colledge
Ins: Wellingham, Hutch, Sheed

Hill might get up and drop Schoey but I think he'll get one more game to give him a fair go
Shuey and Scooter both playing sore but can't see either of them getting a break this week.

How'd you go after the WAFL big fella? Pull up alright? Think another week in the two's wouldn't hurt or straight into the team as you're hoping?

 

[Chris_6678]

Shuey got a week! does anyone know what for?

MRP: D Merrett can accept 2 matches. 1 match for B Matera, S May, T Adams, L Shuey and Devon Smith. Reprimands for J Riewoldt and M Thomas.

 

[Chris_6678]

So no Lecra, Hurn & Shuey...we are going to get pumped

 

[squashface]

I am 900% done with this season and it's only round 4

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

2 weeks for Sauce's dog act is a joke, just quietly.

I've got absolutely no recollection of Shuey striking anyone.

 

[Spoon_Man]

Luke Shuey, West Coast, has been charged with a level three striking offence (225 demerit points, two-match sanction) for striking Tom Curren, St Kilda, during the third quarter of the round three match between West Coast and St Kilda, played at Patersons Stadium on Saturday April 5, 2014.

In summary, he can accept a one-match sanction with an early plea.

Based on the MRP investigation, the video evidence available and a medical report from the St Kilda Football Club, the incident was assessed as intentional conduct (three points), low impact (one point) and high contact (two points). This is a total of six activation points, resulting in a level three offence, drawing 225 demerit points and a two-match sanction. He has an existing bad record of three matches suspended within the last two years, increasing the penalty by 10 per cent to 247.5 points and a two-match sanction. An early plea reduces the sanction by 25 per cent to 185.63 points and a one-match sanction.

What the hell is this??

 

[Small Moves]

lol.

Did anyone even see that?