Changes v GWS

[AJJPAFC]

Don't really understand selections

Would be happy if we were cycling through the list but it doesn't seem we are doing that.

Butch should come in. One last chance

After the 37 other last chances?

 

[RossFC]

If we lose every game we'll still finish 12th. Makes the selections even more pointless (if that was possible).

We could still go as low as 15th based on other results.

 

[Changaneen]

Maybe Ken and Koch think we need the best possible pick for gold coast so we don't trade unfairly.

Koch shouldn't have a say in picks or game day or anything. Just concentrate on corporate business. Keep his big nose out of anything game day. Stay out of if Kochy please. Best you can do is have a beer at Alberton.

 

[Doctor Feel]

Koch shouldn't have a say in picks or game day or anything. Just concentrate on corporate business. Keep his big nose out of anything game day. Stay out of if Kochy please. Best you can do is have a beer at Alberton.

If there is one thing Koch does well, it's keep his nose out of coaching decisions. He said he steers clear unless explicitly asked by Ken to be involved.

 

[Ford Fairlane]

Koch shouldn't have a say in picks or game day or anything. Just concentrate on corporate business. Keep his big nose out of anything game day. Stay out of if Kochy please. Best you can do is have a beer at Alberton.

Just because a know-nothing poster on a footy board says maybe it's happened doesn't make it a thing PB. Calm down and listen to some AC/DC.

 

[El_Scorcho]

*wades through the goo*

What seems to be the problem? You're all losing your shit because some rookie who was pick 30+ doesn't get a debut game when our forward line hasn't functioned with the structure of three talls in Schulz/Ryder/Westhoff all year?

That doesn't follow. Our forward line hasn't functioned because of overall gameday strategy and ball movement. 3 talls is the correct amount.

Or is it the fact that we've given a young defender a taste of AFL level football - like we did with Jack Hombsch - and don't want him to pick up bad habits and think that the way our shit defenders have been playing is the way he should play?

So now Clurey shouldn't play at AFL level because he might learn bad habits? Was his game last week evidence of these bad habits? Are you expecting that Clurey will see Jonas totally lose his man and fall over and think that's what he should be doing? Will he be seeing any less of this play by watching from the stands?

Oh wait...no...it's the fact that Kane Mitchell is getting a game over spuds like Moore and Young. Well, Mitchell may be a spud too, but at least he gives 100% effort, which is more than the other two can say.

Aaaaand we're back to Tom Logan drives a ute picking people who have no business in an AFL game because they try hard. I'm not saying pick Moore or Young, but jesus.

Premierships are decided by more than just who plays what player in a particular position. Our problems this year are nothing to do with selection in terms of skill level. It's all to do with form and heart. If we don't turn it around with the players that get selected every week, we're not going to win anything with this squad, because they are ALL THERE IS.

wat

This is gold pass horseshit.

Yes, we'd be hoping to carry most of the squad through to our flag tilt, but that doesn't mean individual players who have lost their mojo can't be replaced. There is absolutely no good reason to pick Jonas over Clurey this week. Jonas has learned absolutely nothing by being dropped and hasn't been made to force his way back in.

Clurey fair and square replaced him for the better. If Jonas wants his spot back, he has to win it back.

Playing Harvey isn't going to magically improve the running of players. It's not going to magically improve their decision making.

No, but the season is done. Playing Harvey means that maybe next year when the players have regained their mojo and we lose Dixon to an injury in round 22, we can bring in Harvey and he's got some experience at AFL level. You need to use this sort of opportunity to develop depth, and we've absolutely wasted that opportunity.

The only selection that is a bit odd is Jonas, but he's in our best 22 when in form and improves the rest of the back six, and he can't possibly qualify for SANFL finals so I don't have a problem with his inclusion.

I would happily get belted in every SANFL game for the rest of our existence if it means we consistently make the right decisions for our AFL list. I don't give a shit about park football and neither should our AFL coaches.

As others have said, we're going back to the 2014 structure and not the 2015 'let's play another key forward because that'll improve our side!!!!111!' rigid, glacial shit that we have been doing by not playing another tall.

Our ultrapace slingshot gameplan has been figured out. Playing another tall has always been the plan, as evidenced by the talking up of Butcher in the 2014 preseason and the recruitment of Ryder. You're connecting 2 things that aren't connected. We are playing shit football. Our forwardline structure has changed. You're applying cause and effect when there is none. In 2015 we've lost our runners to poor form and injury for long periods of time and teams have gone hyperdefensive against us. The game has changed. We still need marking targets inside 50.

Imagine the side with the following changes:

Mitchell out for Wines
O'Shea out for Polec

And it's pretty much the 22 that lined up to play against Hawthorn in last year's prelim, with Ryder replacing Lobbe. Krakouer gets in ahead of Impey.

And we're 12 months later and Lobbe and Jonas have been absolutely terrible all year, and in the mean time a bunch of players have developed. Our prelim final side isn't our best 22. I'm not sure why it's being used as a measuring stick, especially when several of the players in it don't deserve their spot in August 2015.

Not sure what you guys are actually wanting from the selection panel. We're supposed to be gunning for a flag with this list, not babysitting players and bringing them up to speed when they don't deserve it.

What does this even mean? It seems like we've been babysitting Lobbe in the AFL side all year. What has O'Shea done to deserve his spot? Were we "babysitting" Clurey when he was among our best and definitely our best defender last week? What has Kane Mitchell done at AFL level to make you think that playing him gets us closer to winning a flag? Why should Tom Jonas have a gold pass despite a full season of terrible football?

Creating premiership lists is about making hard calls at the right time and developing depth. If we want to win a flag with this list, it's about time we started doing that.

 

[b0ydman]

Yep. One bad year. Pull the trigger, sack him. Let's get a real coach like Malthouse, or a big footy poster! Your Negative shit is a ******* disgrace.

You haven't noticed that the only time we do well now, is when the players are behind, and throw the Ken play book out the window and do it themselves

Ken is a one trick pony and the trick (slingshot) don't work no more

 

[Changaneen]

Just because a know-nothing poster on a footy board says maybe it's happened doesn't make it a thing PB. Calm down and listen to some AC/DC.

Ok Frod. Thanks I'm having a coopers sparkling. Yes I will crank some acca dacc just to calm me down.

 

[AJJPAFC]

You haven't noticed that the only time we do well now, is when the players are behind, and throw the Ken play book out the window and do it themselves

Ken is a one trick pony and the trick (slingshot) don't work no more

Bloke brought us back from the brink. He has earnt the right to reset in the off-season and try again.

When it turns around I hope you and the other nay-sayers are smart enough to realise what a monumental bag of dicks you have been.

 

[manureid]

Have not read through most of this since the selections, but just wanted to add... Clurey out for Jonas. Wow. What the actual fck.

 

[pastmyprimus]

The line-up of tall forwards in the Magpies looks more dangerous than the line-up for the firsts.

 

[klem22]

You haven't noticed that the only time we do well now, is when the players are behind, and throw the Ken play book out the window and do it themselves

Ken is a one trick pony and the trick (slingshot) don't work no more

Have to agree with you there he hasnt shown that he has to much in his bag and the selections this week to say the least are baffling. There are signs to suggest he does not know where he is going. time will tell.

 

[b0ydman]

Bloke brought us back from the brink. He has earnt the right to reset in the off-season and try again.

When it turns around I hope you and the other nay-sayers are smart enough to realise what a monumental bag of dicks you have been.

I will personally write a hand delivered apology

Won't happen as long as he drops players who NEED game time like Clurey and Colhoun, and puts in plods like Sam Gray and Kane Mitchell, and doesn't expose others to the AFL.

I mean a home game, in a pure dead rubber contest, against an expansion team.

At a time we are looking to move on Schultz, and in all likelihood won't have Ryder next year

And he won't give some talls a sniff of the game?

Uh yeah, sure.

The guy is bereft of the change

I'm calling the coaches no longer in the box were the ones that had it, not him

Can anyone name me one thing he's shown this year of note? One thing (ahem- be careful of the game v Hawthorn, I can present a very good case that despite all the good work the players did in the 1st quarter the coaches almost lost the unloseable game there)

Just one thing that could be in a report to a Board for the season review.

 

[El_Scorcho]

After the 37 other last chances?

You mean the two last chances where he was dropped while in form and playing well for a key forward of his level of experience?

 

[edgie]

You mean the two last chances where he was dropped while in form and playing well for a key forward of his level of experience?

For players

a) Sam Gray, who is Sam Gray, and
b) Jarrad Redden, who was shocked to discover Primus was no longer the coach it had been that long since he played, and nearly missed the game cause he turned up at footy park.

 

[StrappingTape]

young developing player at Port with the season over well look out you are going to cop the wrath of the selection panel for the defeat last week! **** me selections this season are woeful to say the least.

 

[Footy Matt]

The worst thing is we'll smash GWS, which in theory will make these selections feel justified. Even if we win by 100 points on Saturday this has been a definite missed opportunity to blood the future against a team who also has a lot of kids. No idea what the selection panel are trying to achieve these days.

 

[240volt]

In the emortal words of Clint Eastwood ......get 3 coffins ready.

 

[pastmyprimus]

I'm convinced Mitchell isn't an AFL player. I'd expect an AFL head coach to appreciate this, and not be sucked in by a BOG performance for the Magpies. Mitchell may well play a serviceable game against GWS but I'm certain he'll be dropped before the season's end.

 

[ab56452001]

Have not read through most of this since the selections, but just wanted to add... Clurey out for Jonas. Wow. What the actual fck.

Yep same , can't believe it, bad bad vibes that this Gold Pass BS isn't going to be a aberration.

 

[edgie]

Slagging Mitchell for being picked on form, is, as I repeat, a luxury we don't have.

 

[Grandaddy J]

The worst thing is we'll smash GWS, which in theory will make these selections feel justified.

We've lost to Carlton and Brisbane this year and conceded 116 points to Essendon who GWS dismantled pretty handily once they switched on in the second half last week. I wouldn't be so confident.

 

[Footy Matt]

We've lost to Carlton and Brisbane this year and conceded 116 points to Essendon who GWS dismantled pretty handily once they switched on in the second half last week. I wouldn't be so confident.

Doesn't matter. There's weeks when you just know we'll get up, especially at Adelaide Oval. St Kilda was one them, and this is another one. I will be very surprised if GWS beat us, more surprised than I was when they beat Hawthorn.

 

[BIG MATTY WHITE]

The only guy who has performed above expectations for the games he has played in clurey gets dropped...


PISS.....OFFFF

 

[shewho]

Could some of the omissions be to qualify some players for SANFL finals?