Prediction Changes vs Sydney

[Obeanie1]

This is too rigid an account of what certain players can and can't do. Roles are well and good but this doesn't mean there is zero flexibility. Cole is "small". JoRo is "medium". Therefore one cannot cover the other? Not buying it. It's not useful to put players in boxes like this.

Its called picking a balanced defense.

Rotham can play tall or as a medium defender.

You look at style, experience and ability.

Just dont see Rotham competing directly with Cole for a spot.

Its like Waterman and Rioli vying / competing head to head for a forward spot. They arent.

 

[Candiru]

Its called picking a balanced defense.

Rotham can play tall or as a medium defender.

You look at style, experience and ability.

Just dont see Rotham competing directly with Cole for a spot.

Its like Waterman and Rioli vying for a forward spot. They arent.

JoRo is versatile enough that he could replace Cole and the defence would still be balanced. Particularly against a team that has a taller forwardline.

What is this formula that we have to adhere to? Cole is 185cm, therefore JoRo can't play in that spot because he's two inches taller?

Didn't we throw Waterman into defence on the weekend? Did that cause everything to unravel because there was an extra guy 190cm back there? JoRo is quick so there's no reason his height alone is some massive dealbreaker.

 

[ziad]

Buddy needs to be held, Read is dangerous OH, they like to float the ruckman forward for a mark and Menzel is X factor. They als have a few others strong overheard.
Pick your defence around those roles. But, win the midfield and dont allow their run our of defence and the defencive task is much simpler as they will flood - but rely on the sling shot and fast break through the corridor ( not our strength)

 

[Candiru]

Buddy needs to be held, Read is dangerous OH, they like to float the ruckman forward for a mark and Menzel is X factor. They als have a few others strong overheard.
Pick your defence around those roles. But, win the midfield and dont allow their run our of defence and the defencive task is much simpler as they will flood - but rely on the sling shot and fast break through the corridor ( not our strength)

Add McCartin and Blakey. It's a tall forwardline.

 

[Figure09]

MC please no Brander

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[AsterixTheGaul]

From the Beagles on Sunday, if Hurn is out then Rotham is a no brainer and we keep a similar structure.

It will be interesting to see who gets Buddy. Mackenzie used to get him and I would say Schofield would be the likely candidate. Buddy cannot possibly be hig hon the endurance stakes at present. That leaves Gov for Reid, Rotham for McCartin and Sheppard for Blakely. We have them covered.

 

[Karim Abdul Yeo]

Keep it pretty simple. Over watch our last game against swans at SCG and find out what we did wrong. Also go through teams that have beaten them at SCG to find out how.

 

[hungrytiger]

If Hurn is injured Rotham.

Waterman in that 3rd qtr came into Darlings fwd role and thats where he belongs but thats not going to happen. He was very good in that role. But WCE dont play him there long enough and gets up the ground and his disposal around the ground is very questionable..

Playing Swans at SCG i question the height we have. I think Waterman will be unlucky. Its hard now with Nic Nat coming back shortly to find the best Ruck and Key Fwd set up. My thoughts the whole time that Jake Waterman is just not going to get a good go at it.

Nic Nat is 29 has a few years left and will be in a tandem ruck combo, JK is signed on for 2020. JD has yrs left. Oscar Allen has gone ahead of Waterman and i believe Brander will also soon enough.

 

[TY24]

his disposal around the ground is very questionable..

Yeah his 22 touches @ 96% efficiency last night was painful to watch at times

 

[Astro7]

Rotham for Hurn and Waterman stays. What Petrol lacks is gametime/experience at AFL level, dealing with the pressure and reaction times, a maturity. More games can help. Who else can replace him at this stage?

 

[TY24]

Rotham for Hurn and Waterman stays. What Petrol lacks is gametime/experience at AFL level, dealing with the pressure and reaction times, a maturity. More games can help. Who else can replace him at this stage?

Another tall forward, something we're clearly lacking at the moment.

 

[Shuestar13]

And he has arrived... Who is Waterman coming out for this week HT? You mention Rotham in for Hurn which seems to be a consensus. But Waterman being dropped after the game he had yesterday?

 

[Makka]

If Hurn has a tight hammy give him the week off plus he'll have the bye. Rotham in.

 

[Dark Sharks]

OUT - Waterman
IN - Naitanui (for the 4th week in a row), Cameron, and Blaine.


Amirite gaiz!

 

[Winky]

JoRo is versatile enough that he could replace Cole and the defence would still be balanced. Particularly against a team that has a taller forwardline.

What is this formula that we have to adhere to? Cole is 185cm, therefore JoRo can't play in that spot because he's two inches taller?

Didn't we throw Waterman into defence on the weekend? Did that cause everything to unravel because there was an extra guy 190cm back there? JoRo is quick so there's no reason his height alone is some massive dealbreaker.

It depends a bit on what description you believe. Some have Rotham at 193 cm which I think is the same as Oallen now. Rotham is big enough and I think has filled out enough to be in the discussion as a key position defender. Cole is certainly a lock down for small forwards and by and large is doing a good job there in that role

 

[LittleGreekGod]

JoRo is versatile enough that he could replace Cole and the defence would still be balanced. Particularly against a team that has a taller forwardline.

What is this formula that we have to adhere to? Cole is 185cm, therefore JoRo can't play in that spot because he's two inches taller?

Didn't we throw Waterman into defence on the weekend? Did that cause everything to unravel because there was an extra guy 190cm back there? JoRo is quick so there's no reason his height alone is some massive dealbreaker.

No. Totally different players. Cole is tough and not afraid to get in and get dirty. Puts his body on the line and thats what the MC likes about him. Rotham is a kick and mark line breaker. Not the same and not usually used on the same type of opponent.

 

[Candiru]

No. Totally different players. Cole is tough and not afraid to get in and get dirty. Puts his body on the line and thats what the MC likes about him. Rotham is a kick and mark line breaker. Not the same and not usually used on the same type of opponent.

So non-identical small/medium defenders.

 

[Bob Fossil]

But why male models.

JoRo is more of a distributor, Cole more of a lock down. Nelson/Cole/Shep seems to be grouped in the lock down role.

Jetta/Hurn/Duggs/JoRo more of the distributors.

 

[LittleGreekGod]

So non-identical small/medium defenders.

Yes with different skill sets and styles.

 

[Candiru]

Yes with different skill sets and styles.

Yeah, no one is saying they're identical. But nor are they "completely different players" to the extent that it's utterly inconceivable for one to replace the other in our back six.

 

[Big Cox 88]

It's time to Rotham Roll Sydney at the SCG.

 

[YeoGabbaGabba]

No Hurn then bring in Josh Rotham.
If not, go in unchanged.
Time to win at the SCG for the first time since 1999!

 

[Astro7]

Another tall forward, something we're clearly lacking at the moment.

Who do you suggest?

 

[CM9000]

True but Hickey's injured.

Very risky playing a lone ruck who isn't fit.

Maybe not this year but next I can see NicNat holding the ruck with support from Oscar, Darling, McGovern and Barrass.

I know he has never been an endurance ruckman but with that amount of support forward and back he doesn't need to run to every ruck contest, just handle the midfield ruck work.

Against sides without an elite ruck I could see us playing Nic only.

Nic only ever played 60-70% game time at his peak, so we wouldn't just need a pinchhitter - especially after two knee recos. We'd need a fully competent ruckman to cover him.

There's a reason why Lycett was chosen over Vardy when we had all our ruckman available in 2018.

 

[alexmcd]

Still undecided if I drive to Sydney from Canberra to watch the game...